Duece On Eight Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 1. Yes, leave the boxes checked.....2. I would get this set first, before you start the install.3. I would worry about customizinf LILO until after you finish the install.Does that work? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes that will do it for that situation, thxs.I took the liberty of joining your website "cowsmilk.net" and already have signed on (the more linux friends I have the better, right?) This situation about the Open Webmail:To login to your webmail, open a web browser, such as Internet Explorer and type in the URL (Uniform Resource Locator) into the address bar. For example, if your website address is www.yourdomain.com, your access to webmail will be www.yourdomain.com/webmail or www.yourdomain.com/up. However, this is not necessarily true in all situations. If you cannot find your webmail login, please contact Technical Support for more help.(Example: http://www.yourdomain.net/webmail)When you say a domain.net are you referring to my IP webmail address? If not I don't get the connection with using a website address for my mail? I usually just use this for mail: eternity739@earthlink.netSorry, I just don't get the connection of a website for my mail. And the ID and password is it the same as my "cowsmilk.net" one? If not do I just create one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross549 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 The webmail is only for people that have a cowsmilk.net e-mail address...... so it is not very useful in your case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 The webmail is only for people that have a cowsmilk.net e-mail address...... so it is not very useful in your case. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Gotcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 Gotcha <{POST_SNAPBACK}> On the other side though what can I do as a member on there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 Absolutely and positively the best early morning I have had in a long time,ha!Everything went smoothly, I didn't even have to remind ATL to use mousedrake, it had obviously remembered from the last time I used it (I'm guessing but this could be true). As soon as I booted up with my digital already in it's usb ATL had no trouble recognising it. I am changing the bottom of my signature soon.Actually crazy how this whole venture can make a person so delighted about something so virtual, and man I am flyin and soaring right now. Now for the complexities: seeing if ATL will recognise my lucent winmodem! As soon as I finish up here I will be hunting that last thread Bruno had typed up about this very subject, I know it's here and now ladies and gentlemen I am off to see if I can now get online with the "ATL".Again my appreciation goes out to all who have put up with me and my antics as a WindowsXP user . So with out further or due let me find that thread of Bruno's. PS: If any see it in your travels let me know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Hi DuesceCongrats ! . . Looks like the first step is taken :DNow for the Net connection:Go to the Master Control Center --> Internet --> New connection -> Dial-up . . . and see if it finds your modem.If it does not you are out of luck and you will either have to use the other ( slower ) modem . . . or fork out $20 for a "real" modem . . . ( Note: ATL ( and PCLos from what ATL is made of ) has one of the best support for win-modems . . . if this distro can not do it, no other can handle your Actiontec modem ) Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 Hi DuesceCongrats ! . . Looks like the first step is taken :DNow for the Net connection:Go to the Master Control Center --> Internet --> New connection -> Dial-up . . . and see if it finds your modem.If it does not you are out of luck and you will either have to use the other ( slower ) modem . . . or fork out $20 for a "real" modem . . . ( Note: ATL ( and PCLos from what ATL is made of ) has one of the best support for win-modems . . . if this distro can not do it, no other can handle your Actiontec modem ) Bruno<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Looks like $$:Ok Bruno, will I be looking for a linux compatible or windows and linux compatible? Is there a difference between just a linux and a linux & windows external modem? Projecting now: seeing that ATL would work better with just a complete modem strickly for linux, even though windows wouldn't work or is there a work around this so I can have both enabled for online?$20.00 that's it for a modem, maybe over in the NL's. Here should be around close to $100.00 easy for something decent. You are right though in the set-up for the internet connection it's pretty straightforward. Such antisipation I have to see how fast she'll run. Although for some reason now the last install worked much faster. She's creeping a little on this new install for some reason. Got plenty of ram and enough space on the hardrive in fact I have a little more this time around.If you know of some brands, name them will you? Something good, no sense in having to buy twice. But...there's that but again....the hardrive activity is still there, non-stop..clocked it over 15 minutes never stopped one time...still no fix yet heh? Let me know on the brands, while I go have a look myself, I'll be on later thxs for hangin in with me Bruno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross549 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 (edited) Duece......If you get one of the external modems, itwill also work in Windows. It is the WIN-modems that give us so much trouble. Edited April 8, 2005 by ross549 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryB Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Dueceone of the least expensive and yes it works with windows tooCenDyne 56K V.92 External Serial Modem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 I just did a quick look over at compusa.com. You can pick up a modem for under $20 if it is internal. Do not buy any modem that has winmodem on the box anywhere or if it says it does not work for Dos or Win3.11. That means it is a winmodem and will not work.If youwant a really nice one, US Robotics has an external one for $99 that is not a winmodem. Otherwise it looks like you can pick up an internal modem for less than $20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 DeuceThis is the one you want:http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invti...0131-PB&cat=MDM( the same one Barry posted )It is out of stock there . . but read the specs ! . . . and froogle shows other places where you can get the same one:http://www.google.com/froogle?q=+CenDyne+5...=Search+FroogleYou want an external SERIAL modem . . . Not USB . . . Not internal . . only an External Serial !The CenDyne+56K+V.92 is a real good one . . and you get a CD with Windows drivers . . and it works out of the box in linux. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 (edited) Ok where to start: Well first off let me say that all of you have really been very observant of my situation and I thank you all for helping me to get started using Linux.Now for the report: I re-installed the "Actiontec External Modem" and then booted up into ATL, got to the new connection (through the MCC) and it did recognize my lucent win modem of which after clicking on it replied that it wouldn't work. Next I chose from a list of aei something or other: and a list of countries came up and I verified if any of them had a Actiontec of course the answer was no. Then I chose to manually configure, and up came a list looking like this:Connection Name:Phone Number:Login ID:Password:Authentication: PAP/CHAPEverything else was blank waiting for me to enter, and so I took a gamble as I don't know anything but to try and put something related to my connection on windows. That didn't work, but I tried again and this time the list came back as above, and when I clicked on the Authentication: PAP/CHAP another window looking exactly the same came up only it looked like this:Connection Name: Script -basedPhone Number: PAPLogin ID: Terminal-basedPassword: CHAPAuthentication: PAP/CHAPAt this point it was time to get on here. I use an accelerator called CallWave which gives a diagnostic test when online I don't know if any of this will jar some of you as I am sure some will be able if not all of you what the report details and referrences to:Here is that log:System Information: Fri Apr 08 10:04:22 2005 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) Disk space (C drive) Available space to user = 17045 MB Total space = 28379 MB Free space on drive = 17045 MB Memory Usage Load = 35% Total Physical = 758 MB Free Physical = 488 MBComplete.Internet Settings: IE Version = 1.2 Active Connections earthlink Local Area Network All Connections earthlink Server = "http=127.0.0.1:5400" Bypass = "<local>;127.0.0.1:5400;*windowsupdate.microsoft.com;*windowsupdate.com;download.microsoft.com;codecs.microsoft.com;activex.microsoft.com;liveupdate.symantecliveupdate.com;liveupdate.symantec.com;localhost" Local Area Network Server = "http=127.0.0.1:5400" Bypass = "<local>;127.0.0.1:5400;*windowsupdate.microsoft.com;*windowsupdate.com;download.microsoft.com;codecs.microsoft.com;activex.microsoft.com;liveupdate.symantecliveupdate.com;liveupdate.symantec.com;localhost" Listening TCP Ports ANY:135 ANY:445 127.0.0.1:1025 127.0.0.1:5400 127.0.0.1:10110Complete.Registry Information: Local Machine - SlipStream (Installation) UnwisePath = "C:\Program Files\CIA\UNWISE.EXE" UninstallPath = "C:\Program Files\CIA\uninstall\uninstall.exe" InstallationDir = "C:\Program Files\CIA" InstallerVer = "1.0" Current User - SlipStream RSH = "accelerator.callwave.com" RSIP = "65.110.175.156" PEL = ";10.*,192.168.*,www.google.com,www.callwave.com" PESL = "*windowsupdate.microsoft.com;*windowsupdate.com;download.microsoft.com;codecs.microsoft.com;activex.microsoft.com;liveupdate.symantecliveupdate.com;liveupdate.symantec.com" RSP = "7000" HTTPLP = "5400" P3LP = "110" SMTPLP = "25" DBS = "4096" IQ = "0" UIEPE = "0" SAOT = "0" EM_On = "0" SEC_On = "1" DUS = "@callwave.com" SP = "1" DUN = "0" SLD = "1" NSLD = "0" DAMU = "0" WN = "CallWave Accelerator" UURL = "http://www.callwave.com/cia/CIAInstaller.exe" FLASH = "1" ADF = "1" CTT = "0" CTTU = "http://" HMURL = "http://www.callwave.com/members/help/help.asp?item=SEARCH_CIA" PERF = "1112881482;311587;0;35079;0" PERFS = "0" IPS = "" PUM = "3" PUSWL = "windowsupdate.microsoft.com;klondyke.net;psionteklogix.com" PUWL = "www.callwave.com;" VC = "3.2.15" VSGA = "3" VSGI = "2" VSBN = "15" JC_En = "1" EM_En = "0" SEC_En = "0" PUP_En = "1" DIAG_En = "1" CONNT_En = "1" ACSB_En = "1" STAT_En = "1" ADF_En = "1" PERF_En = "0" PRIV_En = "0" Popup Blocker Registered Internet Settings Default browser C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) User Agent = "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Win32)" Proxy Enable = 1 Proxy Server = "http=127.0.0.1:5400" Proxy Override = "<local>;127.0.0.1:5400;*windowsupdate.microsoft.com;*windowsupdate.com;download.microsoft.com;codecs.microsoft.com;activex.microsoft.com;liveupdate.symantecliveupdate.com;liveupdate.symantec.com;localhost" Enable Http 1.1 = 1 Proxy Http 1.1 = 0 Max Connections 1.0 = 16 Network SettingsComplete.LSP Information: Winsock 32-bit Catalog: ======================= 1023 - SpamSubtract over [MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IP]] 1024 - SpamSubtract over [MSAFD Tcpip [uDP/IP]] 1025 - SpamSubtract over [MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IP]] 1026 - SpamSubtract over [RSVP UDP Service Provider] 1027 - SpamSubtract over [RSVP TCP Service Provider] 1001 - MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IP] 1002 - MSAFD Tcpip [uDP/IP] 1003 - MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IP] 1004 - RSVP UDP Service Provider 1005 - RSVP TCP Service Provider 1022 - SpamSubtract 1038 - MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E3A45EAC-96FA-43E9-B31B-1F7E490C40F1}] SEQPACKET 0 1039 - MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E3A45EAC-96FA-43E9-B31B-1F7E490C40F1}] DATAGRAM 0 1040 - MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BBE5F2B8-3FC1-48B5-9293-069A8A747AB1}] SEQPACKET 1 1041 - MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BBE5F2B8-3FC1-48B5-9293-069A8A747AB1}] DATAGRAM 1 1042 - MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{44D47DEC-603D-473D-94BB-77D6E6140236}] SEQPACKET 2 1043 - MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{44D47DEC-603D-473D-94BB-77D6E6140236}] DATAGRAM 2 1044 - MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CFBB7883-B8F9-4311-90BE-E81F5BA6CF62}] SEQPACKET 3 1045 - MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CFBB7883-B8F9-4311-90BE-E81F5BA6CF62}] DATAGRAM 3 1046 - MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B0F0BD91-7FB1-4388-8D45-9AB24D73C788}] SEQPACKET 4 1047 - MSAFD NetBIOS [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B0F0BD91-7FB1-4388-8D45-9AB24D73C788}] DATAGRAM 4Complete.Branding Information: $COMPANY$ = "CallWave" $APP$ = "CallWave Accelerator" $APPSHORT$ = "CW Accelerator" $SERVICE$ = "CallWave Accelerator Service" $EMAIL$ = "CallWave Email Accelerator" $LOGIN$ = "Enter the login information provided to you by CallWave." $ISP$ = "CallWave" $WEBSITE$ = "www.callwave.com"Complete.Process Information: Memory Information Page Fault Count = 4492 Total Usage = 7864 KB Peak Usage = 7868 KB Modules ntdll.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) kernel32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) comctl32.dll 5.82 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) advapi32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) rpcrt4.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) gdi32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) user32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) wininet.dll 6.00.2900.2577 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.041130-1729) crypt32.dll 5.131.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) msvcrt.dll 7.0.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) msasn1.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) oleaut32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 ole32.dll 5.1.2600.2595 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.041130-1729) shlwapi.dll 6.00.2900.2573 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.041130-1729) rasapi32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) rasman.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) ws2_32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) ws2help.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) netapi32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) tapi32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) rtutils.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) winmm.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) shell32.dll 6.00.2900.2578 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.041130-1729) iphlpapi.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) version.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) imm32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) lpk.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) usp10.dll 1.0420.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) wbsys.dll 4, 0, 0, 0 wbhelp.dll 4.01 comctl32.dll 6.0 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) psapi.dll 4.00 imagehlp.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) sensapi.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) wblind.dll 4.51 uxtheme.dll 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) msimg32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) lgwndhk.dll 9.80.019 msctfime.ime 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) sdicore.dll 3.2.12 wsock32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) lgmsghk.dll 1.1.0 msvcp60.dll 6.02.3104.0 sssensor.dll 5. 5. 0. 5 spsublsp.dll 2,0,0,45 mswsock.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) hnetcfg.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) rsvpsp.dll 5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148) wshtcpip.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) secur32.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) urlmon.dll 6.00.2900.2574 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.041130-1729) userenv.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) msv1_0.dll 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158) rsaenh.dll 5.1.2600.2161 (xpsp.040706-1629)Complete.Diagnostic Tests: Test 1 - DNS Test Resolved: www.cnn.com Resolved: www.yahoo.com Resolved: www.google.com Resolved: accelerator.callwave.com Test 2 - Server Proxy Test Connected to server Test 3 - Direct Connect Connected directly Direct connection speed = 17.13 Kbps Test 4 - Proxy Connect Connected to accelerated client proxy Accelerated connection speed = 159.98 Kbps Test 5 - Features Enabled Acceleration: Maximum Image Quality: Reduced Significantly Email: Disabled Popup Blocker: EnabledComplete.Now here is the specs from the Actiontec modem:04-08-2005 09:57:51.812 - File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\tapisrv.dll, Version 5.1.2600 04-08-2005 09:57:51.812 - File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\unimdm.tsp, Version 5.1.2600 04-08-2005 09:57:51.812 - File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\unimdmat.dll, Version 5.1.2600 04-08-2005 09:57:51.812 - File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\uniplat.dll, Version 5.1.2600 04-08-2005 09:57:51.843 - File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\modem.sys, Version 5.1.2600 04-08-2005 09:57:51.843 - File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\modemui.dll, Version 5.1.2600 04-08-2005 09:57:51.921 - File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mdminst.dll, Version 5.1.2600 04-08-2005 09:57:51.921 - Modem type: Actiontec 56K External Modem04-08-2005 09:57:51.921 - Modem inf path: oem67.inf04-08-2005 09:57:51.921 - Modem inf section: Modem_Venus104-08-2005 09:57:51.921 - Matching hardware ID: serenum\aei231604-08-2005 09:57:51.953 - 115200,8,N,1, ctsfl=1, rtsctl=204-08-2005 09:57:51.953 - Initializing modem.04-08-2005 09:57:51.968 - Send: AT<cr>04-08-2005 09:57:51.968 - Recv: AT<cr>04-08-2005 09:57:51.968 - Command Echo04-08-2005 09:57:51.968 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>04-08-2005 09:57:51.968 - Interpreted response: OK04-08-2005 09:57:51.984 - Send: AT &F E0 &C1 &D2 V1 S0=0\V1<cr>04-08-2005 09:57:52.109 - Recv: AT &F E0 &C1 &D2 V1 S0=0\V1<cr>04-08-2005 09:57:52.109 - Command Echo04-08-2005 09:57:52.109 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>04-08-2005 09:57:52.109 - Interpreted response: OK04-08-2005 09:57:52.125 - Send: ATS7=60S30=0L0M1\N3%C1&K3B0B15N1X4<cr>04-08-2005 09:57:52.125 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>04-08-2005 09:57:52.125 - Interpreted response: OK04-08-2005 09:57:52.125 - Waiting for a call.04-08-2005 09:57:52.140 - Send: at+vcid=1<cr>04-08-2005 09:57:52.140 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>04-08-2005 09:57:52.140 - Interpreted response: OK04-08-2005 09:57:52.156 - Send: ATS0=0<cr>04-08-2005 09:57:52.156 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>04-08-2005 09:57:52.156 - Interpreted response: OK04-08-2005 09:57:52.156 - 115200,8,N,1, ctsfl=1, rtsctl=204-08-2005 09:57:52.156 - Initializing modem.04-08-2005 09:57:52.171 - Send: AT<cr>04-08-2005 09:57:52.171 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>04-08-2005 09:57:52.171 - Interpreted response: OK04-08-2005 09:57:52.187 - Send: AT &F E0 &C1 &D2 V1 S0=0\V1<cr>04-08-2005 09:57:52.296 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>04-08-2005 09:57:52.296 - Interpreted response: OK04-08-2005 09:57:52.328 - Send: ATS7=60S30=0L0M1\N3%C1&K3B0B15N1X4<cr>04-08-2005 09:57:52.328 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>04-08-2005 09:57:52.328 - Interpreted response: OK04-08-2005 09:57:52.328 - Dialing.04-08-2005 09:57:52.343 - Send: ATDT*##,#######<cr>04-08-2005 09:58:39.187 - Recv: <cr><lf>CONNECT 14400 V42bis<cr><lf>04-08-2005 09:58:39.187 - Interpreted response: Connect04-08-2005 09:58:39.187 - Receive Connect but CD was low, Waiting for signal to go high04-08-2005 09:58:39.218 - CD has been raised04-08-2005 09:58:39.218 - Connection established at 14400bps.04-08-2005 09:58:39.218 - Error-control on.04-08-2005 09:58:39.218 - Data compression on.04-08-2005 09:59:09.218 - Read: Total: 17415, Per/Sec: 579, Written: Total: 3485, Per/Sec: 11304-08-2005 10:01:09.218 - Read: Total: 112095, Per/Sec: 789, Written: Total: 62368, Per/Sec: 49004-08-2005 10:03:09.218 - Read: Total: 197951, Per/Sec: 715, Written: Total: 64791, Per/Sec: 2004-08-2005 10:05:09.218 - Read: Total: 279539, Per/Sec: 679, Written: Total: 67070, Per/Sec: 1804-08-2005 10:07:09.218 - Read: Total: 395770, Per/Sec: 968, Written: Total: 86999, Per/Sec: 166Now this modem is only a v90 not a v92 and in fact says that it is a fax modem for DOS/WINDOWS the version is 2.2AI told Bruno a night ago that I called the tech at Actiontec and they said that it should work with any Linux OS. Quick question: Is it possible that ATL didn't see it because I installed it on windows? Perhaps if I could have installed it on ATL itself that would make a difference? Just my prognosis. Well as you all say $20.00 isn't that much really although it's stretching for me at the moment. You know how it goes: last wk you had all that extra and this wk your like a empty canyon. I guess this really isn't such a big problem at all. You just go and buy the thing, but for now and at this hour I like to tinker with the idea that maybe just maybe there is a way of configuring this Actiontec modem, you know us rocket-scientists?So it's a long shot anyway but that's why there's "Tech Sites" and forums. The test-tube geekers of what I am becoming at a slow progressive state, fasinating isn't it? You would agree I hope? Oh well, I was quite amazed how the re-install went earlier on, it was a snap as Bruno and others said it would. Well I am going over to that linmodem site for a look and write down all you'all's choices and finally make some calls in the interim. If for some reason someone see's something that stands out with all this mess of text up there lets continue probing around a bit to see if it's at all possible to use the Actiontec modem, just for giggles.On ATL they had quite a list of modems from those countries, strange that none of them listed the Actiontec one. In fact there were no entries for the United States what's so ever. Ok, now that I have written this short story I guess it's time to get busy investigating the possibilities heh? I'll be back thats for sure.......... *Just a quick edit to allow lines to wrap! Edited April 8, 2005 by teacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Hi DueceI can see your problem . . . but you are facing a kind of catch 22:1). There are free available lucent drivers . . that only gives you HALF the speed on your modem . . . . . . . or there are drivers you can buy . . $19 to give you the full speed.2). These drivers are extremely difficult to install for someone new to Linux . . . even with help from the forum.3). With the free drivers . . . you will get the same speed as the other modem you have and that does work in Linux out of the box. . . . So there is no progress.Here is my advice: Use the other ( slower ) modem until you can fork out the $20 for the CenDyne+56K+V.92 . . . . . put $5 aside every week and in 4 weeks you will be smiling :DBecause: No matter what the techies at actiontec are telling you . . you did see the proof that it ain't workin' yourself ! . . . . . Ans installing the drivers is really no option for you . . . maybe in 6 months from now when you did learn plenty about Linux ( learn daily ) . . but absolutely not now.And with every upgrade . . or other distro you want to try you will face the same problem over and over again . . . . so buy the CenDyne+56K+V.92 and you will never have to deal with this issue again. BrunoPS: After all . . . with Linux you get the OS and all additional software for free . . . the only investment you have to make is $ 20 for a decent modem . . . . . is that not a fair deal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 9, 2005 Author Share Posted April 9, 2005 Hi DueceI can see your problem . . . but you are facing a kind of catch 22:1). There are free available lucent drivers . . that only gives you HALF the speed on your modem . . . . . . . or there are drivers you can buy . . $19 to give you the full speed.2). These drivers are extremely difficult to install for someone new to Linux . . . even with help from the forum.3). With the free drivers . . . you will get the same speed as the other modem you have and that does work in Linux out of the box. . . . So there is no progress.Here is my advice: Use the other ( slower ) modem until you can fork out the $20 for the CenDyne+56K+V.92 . . . . . put $5 aside every week and in 4 weeks you will be smiling :DBecause: No matter what the techies at actiontec are telling you . . you did see the proof that it ain't workin' yourself ! . . . . . Ans installing the drivers is really no option for you . . . maybe in 6 months from now when you did learn plenty about Linux ( learn daily ) . . but absolutely not now.And with every upgrade . . or other distro you want to try you will face the same problem over and over again . . . . so buy the CenDyne+56K+V.92 and you will never have to deal with this issue again. BrunoPS: After all . . . with Linux you get the OS and all additional software for free . . . the only investment you have to make is $ 20 for a decent modem . . . . . is that not a fair deal ?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bruno: I called around where I live, it's a laugh, in a University town, University of Florida in Gainesville, Florida. There are alot of people who deal with PC parts, but only around 2 that I know of and at best they said more than likely I would have to get it online. The big place's like "Best Buy", "Radio Shack", "Circuit City", and on and on some 'believe me when I say this never heard of "Linux", (staggerring up off the floor).The people I know say that those types of modems are hard to find except online. Kinda like a dinosaur. With dsl and sattelite, most don't need equipment like a serial modem. On my system for instance, my internal modem which is a lucent win modem v92 connnects and maintain's at least 26.8kbs, for a 56kb modem on dial-up you never get anything close to 56kbs, the norm is always around 26 or 28kbs, the average with most of the lucent win modem's. The $20 is not so much the issue as it is to buy online, I don't do credit-cards and most will not except your purchase except for paying by credit-card.You mean to tell me that there is no such thing on any of the many linux's OS's a internal modem in which dial-up users have to use? Point: the digital mouse:Remember how in the beginning I couldn't use it(would fail at the ubs, but after, when applying mousedrake that solved the problem? There must be another way of connecting besides just a serial modem. Is there a site that could give me a tutorial or at least a pic to look at as far as getting the right driver on the system in the mean time? I went to those website's of which most of them ran out of those. I guess it's a contravercy with what ever OS you use.Isn't there anyone that use's ATL on a internal modem? Or using a usb port instead of a serial? When I asked by name that modem most never heard of it. The panic is alot never heard of Linux imagine that? Most sites on the entire internet use linux servers for one. Lockergnome use's a Linux server for there website. The one's that are more familiar are the one's behind what the user's take for granted on the net, the back-bone people the invisible guys. The average user though, at least the one's I know of not only know that Linux is in so many ways better than Windows.It's the techie's who know the truth about which is which not the average user. My God I know so many who don't know how to sign on to a forum. As though it was a well kept secret or something. Well not to rant continuously on this subject. Your point is well taken Bruno, get the CenDyne+56K+V.92 modem and that's the bottom line. If I can locate somewhere that is willing to except a money-order or something on that order I could easily get my hands on it. No credit cards is a problemo when trying to purchase anything online these days.You say that a fix remains as installing a driver but the undertaking is problematic. Yes I am far from knowing, but I am deliberate in my attempt's to succeed. Who if anyone could direct me to a install of the correct drivers to make it work? I like the challenge's as you know full well, or I wouldn't still be here. Feel as though either yourself or someone you know would want to proceed? Let me know Bruno, you say it's possible, I believe you; now if you have the time and patience; it's your call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Hi DueceI know that the knowledge of linux by "tech" people in shops and phone-help-lines in the US is non existant. It is sad but the truth.Also, I am really sorry but there is no one here one the forum running Linux on a Win-Modem . . . . So the only thing you can do is use the other ( Old ) modem that is slow but still does connect you and learn . . . learn . . learn:Linux CluesTips For Linux ExplorersYo Linux TutorialsRuteSuper man pagesOne Page Linux ManualAnd then just hope that some day you run into a Linux compatible modem . . . . . that is all you can do . . . Because even with the drivers for that lucent modem it will NOT be faster then the old modem you have now. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolanaj Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 (edited) What about ebay? Some of the vendors will let you pay with a money order not all of them insist on a credit card.I found this one in a really quick search http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...6757499570&rd=1I'm not sure but I think it is linux compatible and there were pages more for modems. Just a thought. Edited April 9, 2005 by rolanaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Since they have a Linux flasher to upgrade it, I would guess it is compatible and not a winmodem: http://www.usr.com/support/product-template.asp?prod=5686d:"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Yep . . according to this page:http://www.devidal.tv/~chris/winmodems/extlist.htmlThat modem is tested and for the full 100% compatible !! ( Look in the 9th section called "3COM/US Robotics" for model 0701 )I would bid $10 on it . . . . seeing that there is no other bid you might get lucky :"> Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 Well greetings everyone. My birthday just passed this 12:00am and my brother I think is going to get me that CenDyne V.92 external serial modem for my birthday present. I sent him that link Bruno gave me on computergeek.com. All I have to do is check the email he sent me to make sure he's ordering the right one from another site and within the week I will be using that to get online with "ATL"!I hope if you seen this thread Bruno that your positively sure that's the one to get. My brother lives in the North-East so if it should turn out not to be compatible with all Linux OS's then I still have time to tell him not to get it. Great birthday it turned out to be heh?You know something since joining on this forum some pretty good stuff's have been happenning to me, mystery or what? No it's not a mystery, faith in God really is the key to happyness. But I still think the forum adds something also. More explicitly the MEMBER'S .I can hardly wait to start getting online with "ATL". Hardwork and patience works. Well let me get onto my email and check that out with my brother for confirming things. I will remain online though before I go and do that, so Bruno or anyone else if that's not the modem please let me know right away. ************************************************************************This just in from my brother Joe......... Bruno:This auction is for a Cendyne 56K V92 external modem in like new condition.Only used it a few weeks before getting DSL service. Works great - highspeed dial-up! Attaches to serial port. Windows XP compatible.Key FeaturesType Fax / ModemMax. Transfer Rate 56 KbpsInterface Serial RS-232Enclosure ExternalConnectivity Technology WiredPlatform PC, UnixProtocolsAnalog Modulation ITU V.92Error Correction MNP-4, MNP-3, MNP-2Data Compression MNP-5Other FeaturesMax. Fax Transfer Rate 14.4 Kbps56K Technology V.92Requirements:* Microsoft Windows 95/98/2000/ME/XP, Linux or DOS* Intel Pentium or better* 4 MB RAM* 5 MB free hard disk space* CD-ROM drive* Standard analog telephone line* ISP supporting V.92 for advanced features* Call waiting service for Internet on Hold featureIs this the same one you were talking about on that other sight? If it is he will get this one. But I have to let him know soon. Please let me know what I can do to insure that this is the exact one on Computergeek.com ok? You gave me the link...CenDyne V.92 External serial modem Bruno Give me a hollar if you or someone know's this one on this sight matches the above used one. Cause if it is he will get it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 That is the one Duece . . . Go for it . . ( or let me re-phrase: Let your brother go for it ) BrunoPS: Sorry in a hurry . . have to get back to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 THXS Again Bruno:One thing I saw on the computergeeks.com was this: Conexant CX6827-11 chipset They don't make any mention of that on the sight my brother's talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Well, it is the one . . so no worries ;)BTW: HAPPY BIRTHDAY !! Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 Well, it is the one . . so no worries ;)BTW: HAPPY BIRTHDAY !! Bruno<{POST_SNAPBACK}> THANK YOU MUCH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 23, 2005 Author Share Posted April 23, 2005 Hey to everyone:Have been searching for that "CenDyne External Serial V.92 modem", very difficult one to find even online. But attention: Bruno after talking to some other Linux users they find it very odd to use the external serial modem as in their analagy this type device is so outdated and with a full explanation of how the 8bit's are transmitted vs how an internal or usb modem puts out much faster, their conclusion is that there are alot of internal modems that Linux is compatible with, one for instance the guy mentioned is Dynex an internal modem. Although I may have to find the drivers for it; (you had mentioned this awhile ago but thought it may be to difficult for me to install those drivers to the modem) but seeing how difficult it is to get hold of this CenDyne External Serial V.92 modem I need to try something else or never get "ATL" online, so later on this afternoon I am going to do a search for this internal modem (Dynex) and see if there is any additional drivers needed for it to connect Linux and Windows online without having to resort to the CenDyne External Serial V.92 one.Hope this thread finds you'all in good health and prosperity..........I'll be on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 Nonsense . . . I found 5 Linux compatible modems in 15 minutes:http://xiertekusa.com/product.php?pid=30&x...6eab4e4397fc5ddhttp://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp...atch&ATT=Modemshttp://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp...atch&ATT=Modemshttp://www.acortech.com/.sc/ms/dd/11059804...%20Modem%20Bulkhttp://store.yahoo.com/pclink/toplogv92exm.htmlAnd a serial modem does perform better then an USB one . . . . I mean we deal with this problem every day here on the forum and that is why I gave you the advice I posted ealier in this thread.For real Linux geeks it might not be hard to compile drivers in a kernel . . . but I assure you that for people just starting to use Linux this is no trivial task. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 23, 2005 Author Share Posted April 23, 2005 Nonsense . . . I found 5 Linux compatible modems in 15 minutes:http://xiertekusa.com/product.php?pid=30&x...6eab4e4397fc5ddhttp://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp...atch&ATT=Modemshttp://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp...atch&ATT=Modemshttp://www.acortech.com/.sc/ms/dd/11059804...%20Modem%20Bulkhttp://store.yahoo.com/pclink/toplogv92exm.htmlAnd a serial modem does perform better then an USB one . . . . I mean we deal with this problem every day here on the forum and that is why I gave you the advice I posted ealier in this thread.For real Linux geeks it might not be hard to compile drivers in a kernel . . . but I assure you that for people just starting to use Linux this is no trivial task. Bruno<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not saying your incorrect Bruno, but this guy in his explanation was saying with a serial modem that the 8 bits of information being sent are like 1 bit at a time where as in a internal modem or usb the 8 bits are all being sent at the same time. Can't say one way or the other on this subject because I don't know and haven't done any research on it. But that's what HE SAID not what I said. Thxs for the links btw I'll have a look see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross549 Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 Deuce..That guy, I am afraid, either did not know what he was talking about, or else he was blowing smoke. Having an external modem for dialup will pose zero performance loss to your system. Actually, it will perform slightly faster, as all the control of the modem itself takes place on themodem. This frees up CPU cycles to do other things. I could go into a detailed explanation, but it could get quite boring. ;)I can tell you I know what I am talking about, because this is part of what I do at work. :DAdam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greengeek Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 Agreed on that point. I have internal and external modems (on dialup) and I can tell you right now that the externals are faster, not only do they start up faster but actually run faster. With the internals the OS (Xandros or SuSE) tends to look for the modem before it starts dialling, that doesn't happen with the externals. Some of the stuff on the 'net is written by people who have no idea what they're talking about, I found one site set up by a guy who had just built his first pc and decided he was an expert on them and could help out everyone with their problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dard Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 You want an external SERIAL modem . . . Not USB . . . Not internal . . only an External Serial !Duece what part of Bruno's statement did you not understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duece On Eight Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 Nonsense . . . I found 5 Linux compatible modems in 15 minutes:http://xiertekusa.com/product.php?pid=30&x...6eab4e4397fc5ddhttp://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp...atch&ATT=Modemshttp://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp...atch&ATT=Modemshttp://www.acortech.com/.sc/ms/dd/11059804...%20Modem%20Bulkhttp://store.yahoo.com/pclink/toplogv92exm.htmlAnd a serial modem does perform better then an USB one . . . . I mean we deal with this problem every day here on the forum and that is why I gave you the advice I posted ealier in this thread.For real Linux geeks it might not be hard to compile drivers in a kernel . . . but I assure you that for people just starting to use Linux this is no trivial task. Bruno<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bruno: Is this one Diamond SupraExpress 56e 56K V.92 compatable to use instead of the "CenDyne external serial V92 modem? If it is then I'll tell my brother to get this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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