abarbarian Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I was very impressed and I think that the majority of Linux users will now be able to use their entire hdd for Linux instead of having to dual boot for games. Linux gaming is right up there with Windows now!!! Since they are the Linux version of the game and Arch uses the official Steam client(from upstream), you should have no issues running them on Archlinux. I'm just hazarding a guess here but I recon you do not have a great deal of gaming experience with any os HL ---- plays with no sound.Everything else seems fine.Have not tried to save a game yet though. Dynamite Jack -- Installed fine. On first opening, graphics looked good and I had sound. Tried to change screen resolution and the whole pc locked up. Second attempt just gave me a black screen but I did have sound. Downloading Penumra Overture. Will it work or not ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I'm just hazarding a guess here but I recon you do not have a great deal of gaming experience with any os Actually I have a lot of gaming experience as I play through pretty much every FPS (well the top ones anyway) that comes out. Granted I only play games once or twice a month but I usually beat a game in one sitting (10-12 hour marathons). So I am not really for sure what you are referring to unless you mean the grammar mistakes but it was late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 HL ---- plays with no sound.Everything else seems fine.Have not tried to save a game yet though. Are you using alsa or pulse: No audio It happens if there is no PulseAudio in your system. If you want to use Alsa, you need to launch the Steam or game directly with SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa (From SteamCommunity). If it still doesn't work, you may also need to set the environment variable AUDIODEV. For instance AUDIODEV=Live. Use aplay -l to list the available sound cards. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam#Troubleshooting_7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Downloading Penumra Overture. Will it work or not ?? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam#Penumbra:_Overture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 [/size] Actually I have a lot of gaming experience as I play through pretty much every FPS (well the top ones anyway) that come out. Granted I only play games once or twice a month but I usually beat a game in one sitting (10-12 hour marathons). So I am not really for sure what you are refering to unless you mean the grammar mistakes but it was late. It was cynical british humour. hence the :harhar: Linux gaming is right up there with Windows now ------------ When you can install Crysis or any other top ten shooter it might be. I was very impressed and I think that the majority of Linux users will now be able to use their entire hdd for Linux instead of having to dual boot for games.--------- see above Since they are the Linux version of the game and Arch uses the official Steam client(from upstream), you should have no issues running them on Archlinux.------ Did you really write that ? All the programs you have ever tried install and work fine first time :worthy: :worthy: It happens if there is no PulseAudio in your system. If you want to use Alsa, you need to launch the Steam or game directly with SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa (From SteamCommunity).If it still doesn't work, you may also need to set the environment variable AUDIODEV. For instance AUDIODEV=Live. Use aplay -l to list the available sound cards. I do not really understand what the above is saying ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 It was cynical british humour. hence the :harhar: Gotcha Linux gaming is right up there with Windows now ------------ When you can install Crysis or any other top ten shooter it might be. Well not every game but there are a lot of top titles plus there are more and more coming everyday. Also since Steam now has a Linux client and handles the installation of games, it will make it easier for developers to support all OSs when porting their game to Steam. I was very impressed and I think that the majority of Linux users will now be able to use their entire hdd for Linux instead of having to dual boot for games.--------- see above Same as above. This will not happen over night but it will happen. It is just a matter of time. Since they are the Linux version of the game and Arch uses the official Steam client(from upstream), you should have no issues running them on Archlinux.------ Did you really write that ? All the programs you have ever tried install and work fine first time No, but I was referring to your question about whether it would work on Arch as it does on Ubuntu. You may run into a hiccup getting is configured but if it works on Ubuntu, it should work on Arch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Ah ha the optimism of youth. Penumra Overture ----- Gives me a black screen for 20 or 30 seconds with some sound. Then I get (see pic) with different sounds. Thats it. There is no way to escape apart from going to another tty. Running top from the other tty will not kill penumbra.bin. Had to reboot. So for my over one GB downloads and several pounds and some hours. I have DJ which has got worse and locks up me pc. PO which gives a pretty picture and some scary noises and locks up me pc. Gaming (on any platform) don't you just love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Are you running these through Steam or local install? The reason I ask is because I had no issues at all when running TF and I cannot find anything on your Penumbra issue. Did you install all of the deps per the link I gave above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 This could be a graphics related issue. What card and driver do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Steam installed through pacman. Games installed through Steam. Pc specs in profile. Half Life has graphics but no sound. So I have some moving graphics for a Steam game but not for others. If I find a solution I'll post back. A long time ago I made the decision, that if a game would not install and run I would not waste time with it. I do not mind being a tester for free games but if I pay for a game I expect it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I told you how to get sound working on HalfLife above: It happens if there is no PulseAudio in your system. If you want to use Alsa, you need to launch the Steam or game directly with SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa (From SteamCommunity).If it still doesn't work, you may also need to set the environment variable AUDIODEV. For instance AUDIODEV=Live. Use aplay -l to list the available sound cards. http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=34781&st=150&do=findComment&comment=368190 I had to do this when I installed it. Afterwards, it worked beautifully with sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Yes I read your original post. An I followed the Steam link and read it all the way through 3 pages of it. An my answer at post 155 still stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Anyway I'm downloading Amnesia The Dark Descent to see if that will work OTB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Yes I read your original post. An I followed the Steam link and read it all the way through 3 pages of it. An my answer at post 155 still stands. Wait a second, 3 pages? It was an Archwiki link: https://wiki.archlin...oubleshooting_7 Nevermind, try running the game through steam via the console and post the output to pastebin.com or somewhere and post the link here so I can look through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Amnesia The Dark Descent --- opens up with a options window > choose options > kicked back to the Steam Games Library page. So at least I can choose audio, video, screen size, but I can not play the game. Oh well. I did not expect plain sailing an would not expect totally plain sailing in Ubuntu either. Early days, early days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8i2rezqb9rhx4ps/BLIJs1W-aA/Steam I posted some game log files for Amnesia and Penumbra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Amnesia: Dark Descent demo ran perfectly on aptosid when I tried it a while ago, non-Steam. I agree that I won't be losing my Win 7 install for a long time yet, probably never. There are a lot of good games that will never come out on Linux, even with Steam. I've nearly finished Need For Speed: Most Wanted and want to play Ace Combat - Assault Horizons next. And GTA5 is looming for release, actually looming quite distantly as current ETA is September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock247uk Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 windows ftw on games *ducks* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 windows ftw on games *ducks* Or chickens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Amnesia: Dark Descent demo ran perfectly on aptosid when I tried it a while ago, non-Steam. That is good to know. Gives me hope for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 That is good to know. Gives me hope for the future. Don't be so sure; it's so scary you may want to end it all after you play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock247uk Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 do games like gta4 run on linux? would love to see that happen and i mean by running it native not through wine etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 do games like gta4 run on linux? would love to see that happen and i mean by running it native not through wine etc Unfortunately, unless they release a Linux version, it will not run native due to it requiring Directx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Yeah, would like to see games get away from dependency on Windows ONLY DirectX stuff. Go with more cross platform to begin with and they will have a bigger audience and not so hard to port it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Yeah, would like to see games get away from dependency on Windows ONLY DirectX stuff. Go with more cross platform to begin with and they will have a bigger audience and not so hard to port it. Well luckily if they offer their game on Linux using Steam, Steam takes care of the installation even for Directx games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Yeah, but DirectX doesn't work on Linux of course, unless you use Windows in a Virtual environment. Steam is supposed to be doing it natively right? What I am talking about is that all games should be moving to a more cross platform engine and video/audio rendering so it is easier to port in general. Not just with Steam purchases which don't always work out for bandwidth challenged gamers sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Josh, are you saying Linux users can play DirectX games via Steam? They port it for the developer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 So continuing my adventure with Steam. Postal 2 installed in Steam. When I came to open the game I was presented a black screen with sound in the background. It sucessfully locked up my user session, nothing responded at all. I had to go to another tty to start top and close down the game and Steam. Going back to my original session I found that I teh screen resolution had changed down to 640x480 and also my keyboard had changed mysteriously to a USA kb.I thought a rebbot might rectify matters.The pc would not shut down cleanly and I had to cut the power manually. However on rebooting I could not gain my E17 desktop, faults and errors were showing. Luckily I have WindowMaker installed so after changing ~/,xinitrc I was able to access that, where my kb was as it should have been a UK kb. So I uninstalled E17 and reinstalled. Now everything is back to normal. Well apart from all the E17 customisations I had made, so now I have to faff around with them again. Yes I should have some backup configs, but I don't. -------- must make backups. So that is five games out of seven that do not work on Arch. With only one game even running and that is without sound.All in all not a very good start for me and Steam on linux. I wonder how the buntu's are getting along with Steam ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Josh, are you saying Linux users can play DirectX games via Steam? They port it for the developer? I think I may be mistaken on that but I am not for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 So that is five games out of seven that do not work on Arch. With only one game even running and that is without sound.All in all not a very good start for me and Steam on linux. I wonder how the buntu's are getting along with Steam ? Have you considered that it may be the window manager you are using that is causing the blank screen? The reason I mention that is because I had the same issues under Xmonad until I tried it again under KDE. I do not understand why it is not working for you considering I played 2 out of the 5 games you listed and they ran just fine on Archlinux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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