sunrat Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Puppy is actually quite amazing. One of the fastest distros on the planet as it runs completely from RAM. But I wouldn't recommend it to start either. It does nearly everything different from any other OS, so takes a little learning.It's main developer is an Aussie though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadia Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 It's main developer is an Aussie though.Is that good or bad? (Only kidding!)Acadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Is that good or bad? (Only kidding!)AcadiaIt's a ripper, bewdy mate! I may be biased though. :"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Bill, keep with Ubuntu and stay away from Mandriva. I just installed it on my system . The install did not go smoothly (several times) and repeatedly results in an install that gives fatal gconf errors and the inability to start gnome apps as root. I don't know how anybody can say Mandrivia is a starter distro. I'm no newcomer to linux but these issues with Mandriva have me stumped.This could only give a newcomer a bad taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 You may be biased. But I'm not from "down under" and I think Puppy is a fabulous distro... for what it's intended for, anyway. I was using it and SLAX on USB sticks; both running 100% from RAM. Amazingly fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Mandriva might just not like your system, Frank. It installed easy-breezy on my system. No tribbles at all.Er... by the way, Bill... you'll come to find, just as in the MS Windows community, that there are a WIDE VARIETY of opinions on Linux distributions and other topics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadia Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 Er... by the way, Bill... you'll come to find, just as in the MS Windows community, that there are a WIDE VARIETY of opinions on Linux distributions and other topics. LOL! I was actually starting to come to that opinion ... not sure what to do now but with my system of backups I just might just play for the heck of it knowing that I can do no harm and who knows, I just might discover something useful. In the mean time I have come to the conclusion that the Linux folks are computing more securely than the MS folks ... but are more confusing! Acadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Confusion is indirectly proportional to knowledge, my friend. The more you learn about GNU/LInux, the less you'll be confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybormoron Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 actually after 3 years i keep discovering more stuff to be cornfused about. maybe this is a better cliche"this too shall pass, and more shall come" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadia Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Hey, Urmas, I am posting this from Firefox which is being run from Mandriva which is running inside of VirtualBox; your step-by-step tutorial was perfect. I did not understand all the step that I did and why I was doing some of them but it worked! I will have some more questions but first I gotta play a little bit. THANK YOU.Acadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urmas Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Hey, Urmas, I am posting this from Firefox which is being run from Mandriva which is running inside of VirtualBox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadia Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 (edited) Ok, questions, probably the first of many for you, Urmas, or anyone else who can answer:1. During the install, the step where Urmas says, "...time for coffee", what exactly was installing there? It appears to me that something downloaded from Mandriva, but I thought that I already had the program, the 702mb .iso file that I downloaded the other day. Did it need a second download of some sort?2. The ad, splash screen, or whatever it is, that remains on the desktop, that says "Join Mandriva" and "Upgrade to PowerPack", any way to get rid of that big thing in the darn middle of my desktop?3. The install used up 2.87 gig of my hard drive, that certainly was expected. Now, using VirtualBox, if I add bookmarks and add extensions to Firefox, and save another Snapshot, would that be another 2.87 gig, or would that new Snapshot simply build upon the old one, sort of like a backup program that uses increments?4. Do I need to install a Firewall inside of this Virtual Operating System for surfing the net? Would my present software firewall be enough or would it not be working since it is based in host XP and I am surfing in virtual Mandriva? I am behind a router anyway so this is not too big of a deal, just that I've always been behind two firewalls and I'd still like one that checks the outgoing signals.Thank you,Acadia Edited December 28, 2008 by Acadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) 1. Probably auto updates.2.There should be a close button somewhere.3.Yep, snapshots take a lot of space.4.Linux distros generally have iptables ( or Netfilter). it's probably not necessary to have a separate firewall unless you run a server. A router will give protection too. In VBox using NAT its like having an internal router. If you want to configure iptables, there are a few gui programs to help, eg. Guarddog. I run Shorewall, but it takes a little learning as its based on text config files, but is extremely configurable and flexible. Edited December 29, 2008 by sunrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadia Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) 3.Yep, snapshots take a lot of space.Ok, so let's say I make another Snapshot which eats up another 2.87gig, can I delete the first one that I made in order to regain that space without damaging the second, newer Snapshot? Thanks for answering, I did found an answer to the ad thingie.Acadia Edited December 29, 2008 by Acadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urmas Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 What Sunrat said...1. Many installers do install/update stuff - such as language packs - from repositories provided there is a net connection during the install.2. Erm... right click --> move to trash?3.1 Yes, you can delete unncessary snapshots... there is a "manage snapshots section" in VirtualBox.4. If you want, you can tweak the firewall settings in Mandriva's Control Center: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadia Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Thanks, everyone -- Urmas, from carefully following your instructions for Mandriva, I can see a couple of things that I did incorrectly with my last week's attempt with Ubuntu. Gonna try Ubuntu again, maybe New Years Day or next weekend, but gonna have your instructions up this time.Acadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 You'll be a full-fledged mooseguin before you know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadia Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 You'll be a full-fledged mooseguin before you know it. Slackware is next after Ubuntu, I'm serious.Acadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 You go for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urmas Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Attamoose!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Slackware is next after Ubuntu, I'm serious.AcadiaSlackware. See posts #68 and #69. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybormoron Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 congrats acadia. virtualbox can be lots of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadia Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Ok, two more questions:1. In the second picture on Urmas's post #75, which one of those boxes do I tick on to protect surfing with the built-in Firefox?2. If I make changes to my Current and only Snapshot, for example adding bookmarks and installing Firefox extensions, how do I save them, that is, how do I add them to my Current Snapshot and then Save them so they are not lost?Thanks again.Acadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadia Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Found answer to number 2, still not sure about which firewall setting to tick.Acadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadia Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Found answer to number 2, still not sure about which firewall setting to tick.AcadiaNever mind, figured this one out too ... Acadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urmas Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Slackware. See posts #68 and #69. No worries, though... Steve [cybormoron] has made - yet another - great "pictutorial": http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybormoron707...57600672709532/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybormoron Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 that's the old slideshow of 12.0 version of slackware, urmas. it's also one of my first screenshot tours and not really very good.the latest version of slack is 12.2 and this screenshot tour might be a little better.http://flickr.com/photos/slackwaretwelvetwo/http://flickr.com/photos/slackwaretwelvetwo/show/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urmas Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 So much to choose from... dizzy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadia Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) Oh, THANKS for those Slackware links, guys, I almost for sure will be using them. Steve, what's the difference between those two links that you provided, the second link does not work at the pc that I am presently at but this is not my home pc.Acadia Edited December 30, 2008 by Acadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urmas Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 The second link is for a "slide show" (Flash required).Pics are the same in both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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