Jeber Posted July 27, 2003 Author Share Posted July 27, 2003 Good deal, Nathan, that makes sense. Look for the APM section and seacrch the line that says ¨¨/sbin/modprobe apm¨NASA, we have a problem. The only line present was the one I typed in there last time, with the #. You said, "look for the APM section...". Well, other than the above line, there isn't anything else. No sections, no other info at all. But my BIOS does support APM. So what does this mean?BTW, my experiment failed before it started. By the time I got the mower out and was ready to head next door, the screen had blanked, showing the desktop in the same way it shows everything else.I really appreciate everyone's help on this. I feel selfish taking up so much time. But you can always ignore me for a while and go help others. I won't mind, and in the meantime I may try a few other tricks. Nothing too drastic, I promise. I don't know yet how to do anything too drastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted July 27, 2003 Share Posted July 27, 2003 JeberThere is no way you´re taking up too much time ! Don´t worry about that !! ( we had far worse cases here )Your bios supports APM, but we want to switch it off because it does terrible things to your screen ! ( Can you switch it off in the BIOS ? )Please do this in a console:cat /etc/rc.d/rc.modules >modules.txtThis will put a textfile in your /home directory, you can doubleclick it and it will open . . . copy and paste that text in your next post . . Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeber Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 I'm pretty bummed tonight (non-computer related) and am not up to much, but here's the info. Also, do I really want to disable APM in the BIOS on a laptop? Just asking, not sure."cat /etc/rc.d/rc.modules >modules.txt Nosuch file or directory" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 JeberWe don't want you feeling bummed. Even if it is not computer related. Hope things look better in the morning! You can always go back in and change the settings in the BIOS to add the APM back in if it does not solve your problems. It sure looks like that is the culprit though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 JeberI´m trying to disable APM because RedHat has issues with APM on Laptops . . . .Have a look Here 3,700 entries on the search ¨APM laptop RedHat¨ with the special http://www.google.com/Linux search engine . . . . . I wanted to save you for all those horrorstories . . but since you ask . . . . most are related to the kernel and these issues exist since RedHat 7.0.The second issue . . . . I think you were too tired and made a typo somewhere . . . cat /etc/rc.d/rc.modules >modules.txt should not give an error, you simply should get the prompt back and will see nothing special happening, only if you go and have a look in your /home directory you will see a file is added: ¨modules.txt¨ Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicDragon Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 with the special http://www.Google.com/Linux search engineNice! Thanks for the link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeber Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 with the special http://www.Google.com/Linux search engineAnyone else getting a 404 page on this link? What happened?I went into BIOS, and strangely enough there isn't one simple setting to enable/disable APM, like there is on my desktop. There were three settings related to power, though, and I disabled two of them, one of which related to screen blanking, but couldn't disable the third, which was a "shut down hard drive" control, so I set it at it's longest interval.I think you were too tired and made a typo somewhereWell, I certainly wasn't doing my best, but I copy/pasted the line. Could very well have missed part of the copy. So I just tried it again and got the same message. Here's what I did...<brought up terminal>su <enter>................ <enter>cat /etc/rc.d/rc.modules >modules.txt <enter>cat /etc/rc.d/rc.modules >modules.txt No such file or directory <ctrl-D><ctrl-D>Just the same, there is now a file in my home folder called "modules.txt" of zero bytes. Success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havnblast Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 pssst.... http://www.google.com/linux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Right Kelly . . with a g not with a G . . . . how stupid of me !! ( sorry Jeber looks like it was ME making that typo today ! ) ( * fixed the link )Anyone for the RedHat and rc.modules ?? Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeber Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 I should have caught that, too, but didn't. Thanks, Kelly.I should add...another clue. The screen did it's thing during a reinstall of RH, so it has to be a hardware problem (like APM) and not anything to do with RH specifically, since it wasn't even functional yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Jeber I´m pretty sure it is APM, that is why I tried to disable it in ¨modules.rc¨ . . the normal place to do that but obviously not with RedHat . . . . did you have a look in the KDE Control Center, Powercontrol, what the settings where over there ?? Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeber Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 I'm using the Gnome desktop, but have KDE loaded. I just don't remember how to switch over. And there isn't a power option in Gnome. But I did solve one other problem when I went into the BIOS. For some reason, my parallel port wasn't active. And I have an old parallel port printer. Wondered why Linux wasn't able to recognize my printer. Enabled the port, now I can print from here. Much better (I was logging back into XP every time I needed to print something...a bit of a chore, that).I don't remember if RH let's me change desktops at log-in, but I'll find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 JeberIn Gnome it´s just called ¨Control Center¨, so not the ¨Mandrake Control Center¨, but the ¨Control Center¨ a little green-ish icon ( half monitor half green-motherboard kind of thing ) in the menu under configuration I think. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 JeberI don't have a Linux desktop in front of me so bear with me. On your start menu look to see if you have a configuration submenu with your settings. I know in KDE you can go through that way and change your default desktop. Maybe Gnome has the same thing and then you could reboot. Since I have only booted into Gnome a couple of times, I am just guessing based upon what I know about KDE. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeber Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 Thanks, folks. I switched to KDE at log-on using the "sessions" control at the bottom of the screen. Now I remember why I like KDE better. Found the power settings, but they weren't enabled, so I left them as is.So far so good. I'm not sure how long Linux has been up, somewhere around an hour now, I'd guess, and so far no screen weirdness.If you've gotten this solved, I'd kiss 'ya both...but that's not possible in cyberspace, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 So far so good. I'm not sure how long Linux has been up, somewhere around an hour now, I'd guess, and so far no screen weirdness.Keeping our fingers crossed Jeber amd thinking very hard: ¨ no weird screen¨, ¨ no weird screen¨, ¨ no weird screen¨, ¨ no weird screen¨, ¨ no weird screen¨, ¨ no weird screen¨, ¨ no weird screen¨, ¨ no weird screen¨, . . . . . . . ( * anything for a kiss ) Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeber Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 This will probably jinx the whole deal....but we seem to have achieved stability. I'm going to leave the beast running while I go next door, and we'll see if it behaves itself.Again...thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Its been 45 minutes now and no weird screen? I am keeping my fingers crossed hoping you have it right. KDE is a nice set up, is it not? Darn that cyberspace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeber Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 3 hours 20 minutes...no weird. I'm whispering so the RH doesn't hear me and do something to spite me. You folks may have just done the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Yohooooo !!! Jeber that´s great news !!! Bruno( *remember already Knoppix had troubles with it ?? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Did someone say something about a kiss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryB Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Julia...For some reason I thought you'd be slightly older ...ummm and femaleJeber ...I think if it made it this far your pretty safe...besides if you pull the hat down further, the computer won't know you looking at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Is this old enough Barry? I tried to straighten my hair that day and it just would not do a thing!Waiting for a kiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryB Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Yes. ..Like the wings....Can't remember my teacher looking like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 BarryThe memory is a funny thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryB Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 BarryThe memory is a funny thing. Hey I have a mind like a steel trap................rusted open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 BarryThey do say the memory is the first to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryB Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Oh Yea...wait a minute...what where we talking about anyway?...oh..steel trap I tell ya....steel trap!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeber Posted July 29, 2003 Author Share Posted July 29, 2003 Nine plus hours and no weirdness, with the screen resolution anyway. Thanks Bruno, Teacher and all.Now...(you didn't think I was going to let you off the hook that easily, did you?)Any ideas why, when I go to use Firebird, the pages load in at least 72 point type? "Huge" seems to be a theme this week. It's possible I didn't install the d/l'd file properly (imagine that!). This is not a biggy, as I'm beginning to like Mozilla 1.2.1 just fine. In fact, I'm reluctant to update it because I'll probably ruin a good thing. So maybe I'll stick w/Moz for a while and forget Firebird (!) in Linux, at least It's still my favorite in XP though.And Barry, you know you're getting old when...you...uh...when you...err...what the heck was it? Never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 You´re welcome Jeber, anytime . . . :)Just happy we could expell to the ghosts from your screen . . . For your Firebird question: Julia is our Firebird specialist, I´ll let her answer that one :D Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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