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Total Download Size: 147.45 MiB

Total Installed Size: 554.86 MiB

Net Upgrade Size: -4.02 MiB

 

 

Total Download Size: 6.61 MiB

Total Installed Size: 22.57 MiB

Net Upgrade Size: -0.19 MiB

 

My last two shrinks. :fish:

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  • 2 months later...
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Pretty nice update tonight.

Kernel, QT toolkit, KDE, Firefox, Mesa, Chromium, others

 

:: Starting full system upgrade...

resolving dependencies...

looking for inter-conflicts...

 

Packages (64): arch-install-scripts-13-1 chromium-32.0.1700.107-1 cmake-2.8.12.2-1

colord-1.0.6-1 curl-7.35.0-1 e2fsprogs-1.42.9-1 firefox-27.0-1

flashplugin-11.2.202.336-1 gdk-pixbuf2-2.30.4-1 gnutls-3.2.10-1

icedtea-web-java7-1.4.2-1 imagemagick-6.8.8.4-2

jre7-openjdk-7.u51_2.4.5-1 jre7-openjdk-headless-7.u51_2.4.5-1

kdebase-runtime-4.12.1-3 kdebase-workspace-4.11.6-1 ldns-1.6.17-1

lib32-e2fsprogs-1.42.9-1 lib32-flashplugin-11.2.202.335-1

lib32-krb5-1.12.1-1 lib32-mesa-10.0.3-1 lib32-nss-3.15.4-1

lib32-sqlite-3.8.3-1 libao-1.2.0-1 libgcrypt-1.6.1-1

libldap-2.4.39-1 libmariadbclient-5.5.35-1 libpcap-1.5.3-1

libwebp-0.4.0-1 libxkbcommon-0.4.0-1 linux-3.12.9-2

linux-headers-3.12.9-2 mariadb-5.5.35-1 mariadb-clients-5.5.35-1

mesa-10.0.3-1 mpg123-1.18.0-1 nspr-4.10.3-1 openssh-6.5p1-1

pango-1.36.2-1 qt5-base-5.2.0-4 qt5-connectivity-5.2.0-4

qt5-declarative-5.2.0-4 qt5-graphicaleffects-5.2.0-4

qt5-imageformats-5.2.0-4 qt5-location-5.2.0-4 qt5-multimedia-5.2.0-4

qt5-quick1-5.2.0-4 qt5-quickcontrols-5.2.0-4 qt5-script-5.2.0-4

qt5-sensors-5.2.0-4 qt5-serialport-5.2.0-4 qt5-svg-5.2.0-4

qt5-tools-5.2.0-4 qt5-translations-5.2.0-4 qt5-webkit-5.2.0-4

qt5-x11extras-5.2.0-4 qt5-xmlpatterns-5.2.0-4 s-nail-14.5.2-2

sqlite-3.8.3-1 util-linux-2.24.1-1 v4l-utils-1.0.1-1 vlc-2.1.3-1

xcb-util-wm-0.4.0-1 xkeyboard-config-2.11-2

 

Total Download Size: 276.19 MiB

Total Installed Size: 965.83 MiB

Net Upgrade Size: -14.48 MiB

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Net Upgrade Size: -14.48 MiB

Congratulations! You just saved 0.01c worth of disk space! :D

Interesting thread though.

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Another day another small update. It doesn't happen every time, but it's good to see the FOSS team working to optimize their code on a regular basis.

 

:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
Packages (2): ktorrent-4.3.1-2  xdg-utils-1.1.0.git20140207-1
Total Download Size:    2.38 MiB
Total Installed Size:   10.71 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:	   -0.67 MiB

V.T. Eric Layton
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Arch Linux? Whazzat? ;)

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Arch Linux? Whazzat? ;)

Some bizarre religious sect, started by an Arch Bishop.

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V.T. Eric Layton
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Ah... figures.

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Some bizarre religious sect, started by an Arch Bishop.

 

I thought they were a breakaway group of freedom fighters named because they are arch enemies of the shareholders of the Redmond Faction. Them guys that are after world domination in the pc market and eventually folks lives in general. :pirate:

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From Wikipedia, quite an accurate description of what the Arch community provides to the Linux community.

 

An arch is a structure that spans a space and supports structure and weight above it.
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V.T. Eric Layton
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From Wikipedia, quite an accurate description of what the Arch community provides to the Linux community.

 

You used to be such a Debian fanboi, dude? What happened to you? ;)

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I still love me some Debian.

 

I install Debian on every system I set up and maintain for friends and family.

Less work for me you might say.

 

My own desktop, which is for my entertainment, I run Arch.

It gets exciting sometimes. Not what I want on a client computer, but perfect for my itinerant tinkerer nature.

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securitybreach
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You used to be such a Debian fanboi, dude? What happened to you? ;)

 

Well it is Archlinux. It tends to take over... B)

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Arch is awesome. I guess you could say that I'm a Debian fanboy, but these days I'm definitely liking Arch just as much.

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V.T. Eric Layton
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I remember Arch. I just got tired of the updating. I'm like a cat. I prefer the same thing day after day. Slackware only has a security update about every month or so and they're usually Mozilla updates.

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  • 2 weeks later...
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Nice big update today, and a good amount of shrink.

 

:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace binutils-multilib with core/binutils? [Y/n] y
:: Replace libusbx with core/libusb? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
Packages (108): apr-util-1.5.3-2  binutils-2.24-2  binutils-multilib-2.24-1 [removal]
		    cups-filters-1.0.45-1  dbus-glib-0.102-1  elfutils-0.158-1
		    f2fs-tools-1.3.0-1  file-5.17-1  firefox-27.0.1-1  flex-2.5.38-1
		    gcc-go-4.8.2-8  gcc-libs-multilib-4.8.2-8  gcc-multilib-4.8.2-8
		    gdk-pixbuf2-2.30.5-1  git-1.9.0-1  glibc-2.19-2  gnutls-3.2.11-1
		    harfbuzz-0.9.26-1  harfbuzz-icu-0.9.26-1  hicolor-icon-theme-0.13-1
		    imagemagick-6.8.8.6-1  kactivities-4.12.2-1  kde-base-artwork-4.12.2-1
		    kde-wallpapers-4.12.2-1  kdeartwork-desktopthemes-4.12.2-1
		    kdeartwork-iconthemes-4.12.2-1  kdeartwork-styles-4.12.2-1
		    kdeartwork-wallpapers-4.12.2-1  kdeartwork-weatherwallpapers-4.12.2-1
		    kdebase-dolphin-4.12.2-1  kdebase-katepart-4.12.2-1
		    kdebase-kdepasswd-4.12.2-1  kdebase-kdialog-4.12.2-1
		    kdebase-keditbookmarks-4.12.2-1  kdebase-kfind-4.12.2-1
		    kdebase-konq-plugins-4.12.2-1  kdebase-konqueror-4.12.2-1
		    kdebase-konsole-4.12.2-1  kdebase-kwrite-4.12.2-1  kdebase-lib-4.12.2-1
		    kdebase-plasma-4.12.2-1  kdebase-runtime-4.12.2-1
		    kdebase-workspace-4.11.6-2  kdeedu-marble-4.12.2-1
		    kdegames-kmahjongg-4.12.2-1  kdegames-kpatience-4.12.2-1
		    kdegraphics-gwenview-4.12.2-1  kdegraphics-ksnapshot-4.12.2-1
		    kdegraphics-mobipocket-4.12.2-1  kdegraphics-okular-4.12.2-1
		    kdegraphics-thumbnailers-4.12.2-1  kdelibs-4.12.2-1
		    kdemultimedia-ffmpegthumbs-4.12.2-1  kdemultimedia-kmix-4.12.2-1
		    kdepim-runtime-4.12.2-1  kdepimlibs-4.12.2-1
		    kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-mandelbrot-4.12.2-1
		    kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-marble-4.12.2-1
		    kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-pattern-4.12.2-1  kdeutils-ark-4.12.2-1
		    lib32-curl-7.35.0-1  lib32-elfutils-0.158-1
		    lib32-flashplugin-11.2.202.336-1  lib32-gcc-libs-4.8.2-8
		    lib32-glibc-2.19-1  libkcddb-4.12.2-1  libkdcraw-4.12.2-1
		    libkdegames-4.12.2-1  libkexiv2-4.12.2-1  libkipi-4.12.2-1
		    libkmahjongg-4.12.2-1  libksane-4.12.2-1  libpng-1.6.9-1
		    libreoffice-common-4.1.5-1  libreoffice-en-US-4.1.5-1
		    libreoffice-kde4-4.1.5-1  libreoffice-writer-4.1.5-1  libsasl-2.1.26-7
		    libusb-1.0.18-1  libusbx-1.0.17-1 [removal]  libvirt-1.2.1-4
		    linux-api-headers-3.13.2-1  man-pages-3.58-1  miniupnpc-1.9-1  mono-3.2.3-2
		    mpg123-1.18.1-1  nepomuk-core-4.12.2-1  nepomuk-widgets-4.12.2-1
		    nilfs-utils-2.1.6-1  openjpeg-1.5.1-2  oxygen-icons-4.12.2-1
		    p11-kit-0.20.2-1  pam-1.1.8-3  perl-error-0.17022-1  python-3.3.4-1
		    python2-2.7.6-2  redland-1:1.0.17-2  s-nail-14.5.2-4
		    shared-mime-info-1.2-2  sqlite-3.8.3.1-1  steam-1.0.0.47-1
		    subversion-1.8.5-3  sudo-1.8.9.p5-1  systemd-208-11
		    systemd-sysvcompat-208-11  udisks2-2.1.2-1  unetbootin-585-2  yasm-1.2.0-4
Total Download Size:    584.23 MiB
Total Installed Size:   1574.03 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:	   -20.41 MiB

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  • 3 weeks later...
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Today's update of (pretty much) all thinkgs KDE.

Thank you KDE devs for continuing to optimize codebase.

 

:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
Packages (52): file-5.17-2  kactivities-4.12.3-1  kde-base-artwork-4.12.3-1
		   kde-wallpapers-4.12.3-1  kdeartwork-desktopthemes-4.12.3-1
		   kdeartwork-iconthemes-4.12.3-1  kdeartwork-styles-4.12.3-1
		   kdeartwork-wallpapers-4.12.3-1  kdeartwork-weatherwallpapers-4.12.3-1
		   kdebase-dolphin-4.12.3-1  kdebase-katepart-4.12.3-1
		   kdebase-kdepasswd-4.12.3-1  kdebase-kdialog-4.12.3-1
		   kdebase-keditbookmarks-4.12.3-1  kdebase-kfind-4.12.3-1
		   kdebase-konq-plugins-4.12.3-1  kdebase-konqueror-4.12.3-1
		   kdebase-konsole-4.12.3-1  kdebase-kwrite-4.12.3-1  kdebase-lib-4.12.3-1
		   kdebase-plasma-4.12.3-1  kdebase-runtime-4.12.3-1
		   kdebase-workspace-4.11.7-2  kdeedu-marble-4.12.3-1
		   kdegames-kmahjongg-4.12.3-1  kdegames-kpatience-4.12.3-1
		   kdegraphics-gwenview-4.12.3-1  kdegraphics-ksnapshot-4.12.3-1
		   kdegraphics-mobipocket-4.12.3-1  kdegraphics-okular-4.12.3-1
		   kdegraphics-thumbnailers-4.12.3-1  kdelibs-4.12.3-1
		   kdemultimedia-ffmpegthumbs-4.12.3-1  kdemultimedia-kmix-4.12.3-1
		   kdepim-runtime-4.12.3-1  kdepimlibs-4.12.3-1
		   kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-mandelbrot-4.12.3-1
		   kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-marble-4.12.3-1
		   kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-pattern-4.12.3-1  kdeutils-ark-4.12.3-1
		   lib32-gnutls-3.2.12.1-1  libarchive-3.1.2-6  libkcddb-4.12.3-1
		   libkdcraw-4.12.3-1  libkdegames-4.12.3-1  libkexiv2-4.12.3-1
		   libkipi-4.12.3-1  libkmahjongg-4.12.3-1  libksane-4.12.3-1
		   nepomuk-core-4.12.3-1  nepomuk-widgets-4.12.3-1  oxygen-icons-4.12.3-1
Total Download Size:    334.72 MiB
Total Installed Size:   551.70 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:	   -8.35 MiB

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Packages (5): flashplugin-11.2.202.346-1 lib32-flashplugin-11.2.202.346-1

lib32-sqlite-3.8.4.1-1 net-snmp-5.7.2.1-2 xulrunner-28.0-1

 

Total Download Size: 50.44 MiB

Total Installed Size: 178.65 MiB

Net Upgrade Size: 12.78 MiB

 

The skrink seems to have hit the skids I'm afraid. Above is today's extra and the last two times I have updated were additions too, one was approximately 75 MB. Did not have time to post the exact figures. lets hope the shrink resumes next time. :'(

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Yes, we unfortunately don't see shrink every update.

But it's nice to see whenever it happens.

We don't ever see it in our other OSes.

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Yes, we unfortunately don't see shrink every update.

But it's nice to see whenever it happens.

We don't ever see it in our other OSes.

 

Yay we love the shrink ! :clap:

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securitybreach
Posted

Yes, we unfortunately don't see shrink every update.

But it's nice to see whenever it happens.

We don't ever see it in our other OSes.

 

Hehe, right! B)

  • 1 month later...
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Another good day in codebase shrink. 5% reduction of installed size in some base packages, probably everyone has most of them installed.

 

:: Starting full system upgrade...

resolving dependencies...

looking for inter-conflicts...

 

Packages (38): apr-1.5.1-1 audacious-3.5-1 audacious-plugins-3.5-1 bash-4.3.011-1

bash-completion-2.1-5 calibre-1.33.0-2 gnutls-3.3.1-1

gst-plugins-base-1.2.4-1 gst-plugins-base-libs-1.2.4-1 gstreamer-1.2.4-1

gstreamer0.10-0.10.36-4 gstreamer0.10-base-0.10.36-3

gstreamer0.10-base-plugins-0.10.36-3 gstreamer0.10-good-0.10.31-6

gstreamer0.10-good-plugins-0.10.31-6 gstreamer0.10-ugly-0.10.19-11

gstreamer0.10-ugly-plugins-0.10.19-11 kdebase-runtime-4.13.0-3

lib32-giflib-5.0.6-1 lib32-harfbuzz-0.9.26-2 lib32-icu-53.1-1

lib32-libjpeg-turbo-1.3.1-1 libdvdread-4.9.9-1 libgphoto2-2.5.4-1

libssh-0.6.3-1 libxfont-1.4.7-2 man-pages-3.65-1 mesa-10.1.1-1

openssh-6.6p1-2 orc-0.4.19-1 polkit-kde-0.99.0-3 psmisc-22.21-1

python2-cherrypy-3.3.0-1 readline-6.3.005-1 rsync-3.1.0-2 screen-4.2.0-1

steam-1.0.0.47-2 wxgtk-3.0.0-3

 

Total Download Size: 72.57 MiB

Total Installed Size: 268.21 MiB

Net Upgrade Size: -14.77 MiB

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Packages (29): colord-1.2.0-1 cronie-1.4.11-2 elfutils-0.158-2

firefox-noscript-2.6.8.20-1 flashplugin-11.2.202.356-1

gtk3-3.12.1-2 inxi-2.1.23-1 js185-1.0.0-2

lib32-elfutils-0.158-2 lib32-lcms2-2.6-1 lib32-qt4-4.8.6-1

libass-0.11.2-1 libcss-0.3.0-1 libdom-0.1.0-1

libhubbub-0.3.0-1 libnsbmp-0.1.1-1 libnsgif-0.1.1-1

libparserutils-0.2.0-1 libwapcaplet-0.2.1-1

libxnvctrl-337.12-1 mesa-10.1.1-2 netsurf-3.1-1

openjpeg-1.5.2-1 python-3.4.0-3 python2-reportlab-3.1.8-1

qt5-base-5.2.1-4 shared-color-profiles-0.1.5-1 [removal]

xf86-input-evdev-2.8.3-1 zenity-3.12.1-1

 

Total Download Size: 72.57 MiB

Total Installed Size: 331.17 MiB

Net Upgrade Size: -24.16 MiB

 

Someone has been wielding the axe this week with a vengeance. :clap:

Edited by abarbarian
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Yes, abarbarian, today is a good day. The devs are really trimming the fat.

 

:: Starting full system upgrade...

:: Replace shared-color-profiles with extra/colord? [Y/n] y

resolving dependencies...

looking for inter-conflicts...

 

Packages (47): audacious-plugins-3.5-2 calibre-1.34.0-1 chromium-34.0.1847.132-1

colord-1.2.0-1 cronie-1.4.11-2 cups-filters-1.0.53-1 elfutils-0.158-2

firefox-29.0-1 flashplugin-11.2.202.356-1 gtk3-3.12.1-2 htop-1.0.3-1

kdebase-workspace-4.11.9-1 libass-0.11.2-1 libgdiplus-2.10.9-4

libgnome-2.32.1-5 libgnome-data-2.32.1-5 libmariadbclient-5.5.37-1

mariadb-5.5.37-1 mariadb-clients-5.5.37-1 mesa-10.1.1-2 mtdev-1.1.5-1

nepomuk-core-4.13.0-2 openjpeg-1.5.2-1 python-3.4.0-3 qt4-4.8.6-1

qt5-base-5.2.1-4 qt5-connectivity-5.2.1-4 qt5-declarative-5.2.1-4

qt5-graphicaleffects-5.2.1-4 qt5-imageformats-5.2.1-4 qt5-location-5.2.1-4

qt5-multimedia-5.2.1-4 qt5-quick1-5.2.1-4 qt5-quickcontrols-5.2.1-4

qt5-script-5.2.1-4 qt5-sensors-5.2.1-4 qt5-serialport-5.2.1-4

qt5-svg-5.2.1-4 qt5-tools-5.2.1-4 qt5-translations-5.2.1-4

qt5-webkit-5.2.1-4 qt5-x11extras-5.2.1-4 qt5-xmlpatterns-5.2.1-4

screen-4.2.1-2 shared-color-profiles-0.1.5-1 [removal]

xf86-input-evdev-2.8.3-1 zenity-3.12.1-1

 

Total Download Size: 215.21 MiB

Total Installed Size: 941.68 MiB

Net Upgrade Size: -30.42 MiB

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  • 2 weeks later...
amenditman
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It's Sunday and that means upgrade and backup everything in the house. Sorry, reverse that, backup and upgrade.

 

It's a good one today. Linux kernel, headers, man pages, gcc, and some other stuff.

 

:: Starting full system upgrade...

resolving dependencies...

looking for inter-conflicts...

 

Packages (31): calibre-1.36.0-1 cups-filters-1.0.53-2 firefox-29.0.1-1 gawk-4.1.1-1

gcc-go-4.9.0-2 gcc-libs-multilib-4.9.0-2 gcc-multilib-4.9.0-2

gvfs-1.20.2-1 imagemagick-6.8.9.1-1 lib32-gcc-libs-4.9.0-2

libcdr-0.0.16-2 libmspub-0.0.6-2 libreoffice-common-4.2.4-1

libreoffice-en-US-4.2.4-1 libreoffice-kde4-4.2.4-1

libreoffice-writer-4.2.4-1 libunrar-1:5.1.5-1 libva-1.3.1-1

linux-3.14.3-1 linux-headers-3.14.3-1 man-pages-3.66-1 mesa-10.1.3-1

multibit-0.5.18-2 nspr-4.10.5-1 nss-3.16.1-1 pacman-4.1.2-6

poppler-0.26.0-1 poppler-glib-0.26.0-1 poppler-qt4-0.26.0-1 sdl-1.2.15-6

unrar-1:5.1.5-1

 

Total Download Size: 241.89 MiB

Total Installed Size: 742.23 MiB

Net Upgrade Size: -13.89 MiB

 

Almost 2% shrink!

  • 2 weeks later...
amenditman
Posted

Big update from KDE and nVidia today.

Not doing so well on shrinking the codebase.

 

:: Starting full system upgrade...

resolving dependencies...

looking for inter-conflicts...

 

Packages (70): baloo-4.13.1-1 baloo-widgets-4.13.1-1 binutils-2.24-4

chromium-35.0.1916.114-1 elfutils-0.158-3 ffmpeg-1:2.2.2-3 gc-7.4.0-3

git-1.9.3-1 glibc-2.19-5 ilmbase-2.1.0-1 imagemagick-6.8.9.1-2

kactivities4-4.13.1-3 kde-base-artwork-4.13.1-1 kde-wallpapers-4.13.1-1

kdeartwork-desktopthemes-4.13.1-1 kdeartwork-iconthemes-4.13.1-1

kdeartwork-styles-4.13.1-1 kdeartwork-wallpapers-4.13.1-1

kdeartwork-weatherwallpapers-4.13.1-1 kdebase-dolphin-4.13.1-1

kdebase-katepart-4.13.1-1 kdebase-kdepasswd-4.13.1-1

kdebase-kdialog-4.13.1-1 kdebase-keditbookmarks-4.13.1-1

kdebase-kfind-4.13.1-1 kdebase-konq-plugins-4.13.1-1

kdebase-konqueror-4.13.1-1 kdebase-konsole-4.13.1-1

kdebase-kwrite-4.13.1-1 kdebase-lib-4.13.1-1 kdebase-plasma-4.13.1-1

kdebase-runtime-4.13.1-3 kdeedu-marble-4.13.1-1

kdegames-kmahjongg-4.13.1-1 kdegames-kpatience-4.13.1-1

kdegraphics-gwenview-4.13.1-1 kdegraphics-ksaneplugin-4.13.1-1

kdegraphics-ksnapshot-4.13.1-1 kdegraphics-mobipocket-4.13.1-1

kdegraphics-okular-4.13.1-2 kdegraphics-thumbnailers-4.13.1-1

kdelibs-4.13.1-2 kdemultimedia-ffmpegthumbs-4.13.1-1

kdemultimedia-kmix-4.13.1-1 kdepim-runtime-4.13.1-1 kdepimlibs-4.13.1-1

kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-mandelbrot-4.13.1-1

kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-marble-4.13.1-1

kdeplasma-addons-wallpapers-pattern-4.13.1-1 kdeutils-ark-4.13.1-1

kdeutils-kcalc-4.13.1-1 kfilemetadata-4.13.1-1 lib32-glibc-2.19-5

libatomic_ops-7.4.2-1 libkactivities4-4.13.1-3 libkcddb-4.13.1-1

libkdcraw-4.13.1-1 libkdegames-4.13.1-1 libkexiv2-4.13.1-1

libkipi-4.13.1-1 libkmahjongg-4.13.1-1 libksane-4.13.1-1 netctl-1.7-1

nvidia-337.19-1 nvidia-libgl-337.19-1 nvidia-utils-337.19-1

opencl-nvidia-337.19-1 openexr-2.1.0-1 oxygen-icons-4.13.1-1 pam-1.1.8-4

 

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abarbarian
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Time to blow the trumpet again.

 

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abarbarian
Posted

Wow! That's a good one.

 

Yup thought it was a spiffing giff meself. :bounce:

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