amenditman Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I have been noticing this trend lately. Is it just my configuration or are any of you seeing it? When I run yaourt -Syu command to update my system. I consistently see the Net Upgrade size as a negative number. The code is shrinking. Total Download Size: 82.63 MiB Total Installed Size: 268.76 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -0.71 MiB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 That is the the difference between the new and the old package's installed size (new installed size vs old installed size). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I don't see any Arch updates at all these days. Ahhhhhhhh... it's kinda' nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 That is the the difference between the new and the old package's installed size (new installed size vs old installed size). Yes, I just think it's interesting that they tend to be shrinking the last few weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Hehe, I just saw this and thought of this thread: Total Download Size: 137.86 MiBTotal Installed Size: 758.41 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -72.18 MiB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 Hehe, I just saw this and thought of this thread: Did you just do the MySQL > MariaDB upgrade? If so, how did it go? Anything break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 Wow, here's a big one! :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (19): boost-libs-1.52.0-3 calibre-0.9.25-1 chromium-26.0.1410.43-2 dotconf-1.3-3 ffmpeg-1:1.2-1 libdrm-2.4.43-1 libffi-3.0.13-1 libwebp-0.2.1-1 procps-ng-3.3.7-1 python-xdg-0.25-1 python2-sip-4.14.5-1 simutrans-112.2-1 simutrans-pak128-2.3.0-1 simutrans-pak64-112.2-1 sip-4.14.5-1 speech-dispatcher-0.8-1 sqlite-3.7.16.1-1 vlc-2.0.5-5 xproto-7.0.24-1 Total Download Size: 105.19 MiB Total Installed Size: 358.72 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -317.25 MiB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 May be your simutrans has the Beeching bug is is the 50th anniversary of his cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Another reduction today Packages (18): cups-filters-1.0.33-1 enlightenment-1.0.12-1 imagemagick-6.8.4.6-1 lib32-nvidia-libgl-313.30-1 lib32-nvidia-utils-313.30-1 lib32-nvidia-utils-313.26-1 [removal] lib32-sqlite-3.7.16.1-1 libxi-1.7.1-1 linux-3.8.5-1 lirc-utils-1:0.9.0-40 lm_sensors-3.3.3-2 lua-5.2.2-1 mpg123-1.15.3-1 nvidia-313.30-2 nvidia-libgl-313.30-2 nvidia-utils-313.30-2 opencl-nvidia-313.30-2 yaourt-1.3-1 Total Download Size: 98.91 MiB Total Installed Size: 281.55 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -71.53 MiB At this rate you'll be able to run Arch of a floppy and still have space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 At this rate you'll be able to run Arch of a floppy and still have space. Right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) And again, it shrinks! I am really loving this. Keep up the good work KDE, Libre Office, and others. :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Packages (67): calibre-0.9.26-1 cups-filters-1.0.33-1 imagemagick-6.8.4.6-1 kactivities-4.10.2-1 kde-base-artwork-4.10.2-1 kdebase-dolphin-4.10.2-1 kdebase-katepart-4.10.2-1 kdebase-kdepasswd-4.10.2-1 kdebase-kdialog-4.10.2-1 kdebase-keditbookmarks-4.10.2-1 kdebase-kfind-4.10.2-1 kdebase-konq-plugins-4.10.2-1 kdebase-konqueror-4.10.2-1 kdebase-konsole-4.10.2-1 kdebase-kwrite-4.10.2-1 kdebase-lib-4.10.2-1 kdebase-plasma-4.10.2-1 kdebase-runtime-4.10.2-2 kdebase-workspace-4.10.2-1 kdegames-kmahjongg-4.10.2-1 kdegames-kpatience-4.10.2-1 kdegraphics-gwenview-4.10.2-1 kdegraphics-ksnapshot-4.10.2-1 kdegraphics-okular-4.10.2-1 kdelibs-4.10.2-1 kdemultimedia-kmix-4.10.2-1 kdenetwork-kget-4.10.2-1 kdenetwork-kopete-4.10.2-1 kdepim-akregator-4.10.2-1 kdepim-libkdepim-4.10.2-1 kdepim-runtime-4.10.2-1 kdepimlibs-4.10.2-1 kdesdk-kate-4.10.2-1 kdeutils-ark-4.10.2-1 kdeutils-kcalc-4.10.2-1 libkcddb-4.10.2-1 libkcompactdisc-4.10.2-1 libkdcraw-4.10.2-1 libkdegames-4.10.2-1 libkexiv2-4.10.2-1 libkipi-4.10.2-1 libkmahjongg-4.10.2-1 libksane-4.10.2-1 liblastfm-1.0.7-1 libreoffice-base-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-calc-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-common-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-draw-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-en-US-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-extension-wiki-publisher-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-impress-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-kde4-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-math-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-postgresql-connector-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-writer-4.0.2-1 libxi-1.7.1-1 libzip-0.11-1 linux-3.8.5-1 lm_sensors-3.3.3-2 lua-5.2.2-1 nepomuk-core-4.10.2-1 nepomuk-widgets-4.10.2-1 nvidia-313.30-2 nvidia-libgl-313.30-2 nvidia-utils-313.30-2 oxygen-icons-4.10.2-1 postgresql-libs-9.2.4-1 Total Download Size: 273.54 MiB Total Installed Size: 871.87 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -43.02 MiB Edited April 6, 2013 by amenditman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) And again today, "The Amazing,Shrinking Arch Linux"!!! :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Packages (17): archlinux-keyring-20130406-1 harfbuzz-0.9.15-1 libreoffice-base-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-calc-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-common-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-draw-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-en-US-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-extension-wiki-publisher-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-impress-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-kde4-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-math-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-postgresql-connector-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-writer-4.0.2-2 psmisc-22.20-1 subversion-1.7.9-1 systemd-200-1 systemd-sysvcompat-200-1 Total Download Size: 81.32 MiB Total Installed Size: 348.27 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -5.94 MiB Way to go Libre Office, systemd, and a few other little misc. In the world of Operating systems this is truly great, amazing..... You can't even run Windows 7 without 4 GB ram and at least 40 GB hard disk space, and Arch Linux, vanilla linux, is shrinking lots of packages almost everyday. I love Linux! Edited April 8, 2013 by amenditman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Yup even the small programs are still spring cleaning. Packages (3): archlinux-keyring-20130406-1 harfbuzz-0.9.15-1 isl-0.11.1-2 Total Download Size: 1.24 MiB Total Installed Size: 4.63 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -0.17 MiB amenditman your community loves you too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Packages (24): flashplugin-11.2.202.280-1 git-1.8.2.1-1 glibc-2.17-5 lib32-glibc-2.17-5 lib32-harfbuzz-0.9.15-1 lib32-libpng-1.5.15-1 lib32-libxi-1.7.1-1 lib32-systemd-200-1 libldap-2.4.35-1 libpng-1.5.15-1 libva-1.1.1-1 linux-3.8.6-1 lirc-utils-1:0.9.0-41 mercurial-2.5.4-1 nspr-4.9.6-1 nvidia-313.30-3 orc-0.4.17-1 python-3.3.1-1 python2-2.7.4-1 python2-distribute-0.6.36-1 python2-lxml-3.1.1-1 sane-1.0.23-4 vlc-2.0.6-1 xulrunner-20.0-1 Total Download Size: 137.03 MiB Total Installed Size: 497.91 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -26.12 MiB Phew another 26 MB gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Me too. :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Packages (21): chromium-26.0.1410.63-1 flashplugin-11.2.202.280-1 git-1.8.2.1-1 glibc-2.17-5 isl-0.11.1-2 kdepim-akregator-4.10.2-2 kdepim-libkdepim-4.10.2-2 lib32-glibc-2.17-5 libldap-2.4.35-1 libpng-1.5.15-1 libva-1.1.1-1 linux-3.8.6-1 mercurial-2.5.4-1 nspr-4.9.6-1 nvidia-313.30-3 orc-0.4.17-1 python-3.3.1-1 python2-2.7.4-1 python2-lxml-3.1.1-1 sane-1.0.23-4 vlc-2.0.6-1 Total Download Size: 143.84 MiB Total Installed Size: 524.48 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -22.48 MiB Between this and clearing the cached packages no longer installed or needed I need a smaller HDD. It's lonely and echoey in there! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 And again today. Even with all the extra junk I have installed I could run this setup from an 8 GB flash stick (not counting my massive file storage partition). :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Packages (19): binutils-2.23.2-2 calibre-0.9.27-1 cifs-utils-6.0-1 cups-filters-1.0.34-1 firefox-20.0.1-2 ldb-1.1.15-1 libbsd-0.4.2-1 libcap-2.22-4 libdiscid-0.5.0-1 libkolab-0.4.2-1 libkolabxml-0.8.4-1 libwbclient-4.0.5-1 opencv-2.4.5-1 python2-psutil-0.7.0-1 smbclient-4.0.5-1 sqlite-3.7.16.2-1 systemd-201-1 systemd-sysvcompat-201-1 tevent-0.9.18-1 Total Download Size: 58.34 MiB Total Installed Size: 221.82 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -41.66 MiB :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 What does df -h / show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvroot 15G 5.4G 8.6G 39% / dev 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev run 4.0G 596K 4.0G 1% /run tmpfs 4.0G 0 4.0G 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 4.0G 0 4.0G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 4.0G 128K 4.0G 1% /tmp /dev/sdb4 457G 208G 226G 48% /DATA /dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvvar 15G 1.7G 13G 12% /var /dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvlog 4.8G 291M 4.3G 7% /var/log /dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvhome 20G 5.2G 14G 28% /home Ok, so I still need the 16 GB stick, but it's down to just over 12 GB (/, /var, /var/log, /home). And that is with a pretty full KDE install with a bunch of extras. Edited April 13, 2013 by amenditman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 I got an email notification that securitybreach responded to this thread, but it is not showing up even after 2 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I got an email notification that securitybreach responded to this thread, but it is not showing up even after 2 hours. Eh, do not worry about it was nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 df -h / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sde5 15G 4.7G 9.0G 35% / An that includes all the extra that has just appeared with E17 updates. That is some bloated system your running amenditman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 df -h / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sde5 15G 4.7G 9.0G 35% / An that includes all the extra that has just appeared with E17 updates. That is some bloated system your running amenditman That's because I have kdebase and a bunch of kde apps as well as a bunch of gnome stuff. That way I have the best of both worlds. Oh, and LXDE just for fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 df -h / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sde5 15G 4.7G 9.0G 35% / An that includes all the extra that has just appeared with E17 updates. That is some bloated system your running amenditman You think that one is bad. Here is mine: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Packages (39): alsa-lib-1.0.27-1 alsa-plugins-1.0.27-1 alsa-utils-1.0.27-4 binutils-multilib-2.23.2-2 bison-2.7.1-1 cups-filters-1.0.34-1 curl-7.30.0-1 enlightenment-1.0.13-1 expat-2.1.0-2 firefox-20.0.1-2 fox-1.6.49-1 freeglut-2.8.1-1 gcc-libs-multilib-4.8.0-2 gcc-multilib-4.8.0-2 gpm-1.20.7-2 isl-0.11.2-1 kmod-13-1 lib32-alsa-lib-1.0.27-1 lib32-curl-7.30.0-1 lib32-flashplugin-11.2.202.280-1 lib32-gcc-libs-4.8.0-2 lib32-libldap-2.4.35-1 lib32-nspr-4.9.6-1 lib32-sqlite-3.7.16.2-1 lib32-systemd-201-1 libcdio-paranoia-10.2+0.90+1-1 liblqr-0.4.2-1 linux-3.8.7-1 m4-1.4.16-3 net-snmp-5.7.2-4 perl-5.16.3-2 python2-numpy-1.7.1-1 python2-psutil-0.7.0-1 qpdf-4.1.0-1 sqlite-3.7.16.2-1 systemd-201-2 systemd-sysvcompat-201-2 tar-1.26-3 wayland-1.1.0-1 Total Download Size: 131.30 MiB Total Installed Size: 374.69 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -26.58 MiB Going down again Blimey Josh you must have every program ever invented installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Blimey Josh you must have every program ever invented installed. Not really as I only have 9032 MB of applications: http://i.imgur.com/PYa3J4Z.jpg The application I used to generate the chart is called pacgraph and is available in the Community repo: Draws a graph of installed packages to PNG/SVG/GUI/console. Good for finding bloat. http://kmkeen.com/pacgraph/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I just freed up 11gb by clearing my pacman cache (pacman -Scc) and by removing some unneeded applications: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I just ran across this: Preventing unwanted cache purges By default, pacman -Sc removes package tarballs from the cache that correspond to packages that are not installed on the machine the command was issued on. Because pacman cannot predict what packages are installed on all machines that share the cache, it will end up deleting files that should not be. To clean up the cache so that only outdated tarballs are deleted, add this entry in the [options] section of /etc/pacman.conf: CleanMethod = KeepCurrent https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Tips#Preventing_unwanted_cache_purges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 11GB good housekeeping. Your tip above is mainly for multi pc/single cache use but would be useful for single pc/single cache use too I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 I've been seeing small updates the last couple of days. But even on only six packages updated I am seeing around 1 MB of shrink. I love the upstream devs for all this great coding they are doing. New features, better security, and smaller installed size. It's like an all you can eat buffet.....with a gorgeatorium in the back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 Now this is impressive. :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Packages (2): colord-0.1.33-1 docbook-xsl-1.78.1-1 Total Download Size: 1.09 MiB Total Installed Size: 15.29 MiB Net Upgrade Size: -2.95 MiB Dropping 2.95 MB from only two packages that were 18.24 MB. That is a 16% decrease in installed size. Truly amazing coding going on in the Gnix world. I don't say Arch Gnix, because the devs of Arch try not to touch upstream packages at all if possible. So they don't get the credit, this time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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