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I have been noticing this trend lately. Is it just my configuration or are any of you seeing it?

When I run [CODE]
yaourt -Syu
[/CODE]command to update my system. I consistently see the Net Upgrade size as a negative number.
The code is shrinking.

[quote]Total Download Size: 82.63 MiB
Total Installed Size: 268.76 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -0.71 MiB [/quote]

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[quote name='securitybreach' timestamp='1363664545' post='370560']
That is the the difference between the new and the old package's installed size (new installed size vs old installed size).
[/quote]Yes, I just think it's interesting that they tend to be shrinking the last few weeks.

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Hehe, I just saw this and thought of this thread:
[quote][size=4]Total Download Size: [b]137.86 MiB[/b][/size]
Total Installed Size: [b]758.41 MiB[/b]
Net Upgrade Size: [b] -72.18 MiB[/b][/quote]

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[quote name='securitybreach' timestamp='1364322979' post='371139']
Hehe, I just saw this and thought of this thread:
[/quote]Did you just do the MySQL > MariaDB upgrade?

If so, how did it go? Anything break?

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Wow, here's a big one!

[CODE]:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Targets (19): boost-libs-1.52.0-3 calibre-0.9.25-1 chromium-26.0.1410.43-2
dotconf-1.3-3 ffmpeg-1:1.2-1 libdrm-2.4.43-1 libffi-3.0.13-1
libwebp-0.2.1-1 procps-ng-3.3.7-1 python-xdg-0.25-1 python2-sip-4.14.5-1
simutrans-112.2-1 simutrans-pak128-2.3.0-1 simutrans-pak64-112.2-1
sip-4.14.5-1 speech-dispatcher-0.8-1 sqlite-3.7.16.1-1 vlc-2.0.5-5
xproto-7.0.24-1

Total Download Size: 105.19 MiB
Total Installed Size: 358.72 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -317.25 MiB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] [/CODE]

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May be your simutrans has the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Beeching,_Baron_Beeching"]Beeching[/url] bug is is the 50th anniversary of his cuts. :tease:

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Another reduction today

[quote]Packages (18): cups-filters-1.0.33-1 enlightenment-1.0.12-1
imagemagick-6.8.4.6-1 lib32-nvidia-libgl-313.30-1
lib32-nvidia-utils-313.30-1
lib32-nvidia-utils-313.26-1 [removal] lib32-sqlite-3.7.16.1-1
libxi-1.7.1-1 linux-3.8.5-1 lirc-utils-1:0.9.0-40
lm_sensors-3.3.3-2 lua-5.2.2-1 mpg123-1.15.3-1
nvidia-313.30-2 nvidia-libgl-313.30-2 nvidia-utils-313.30-2
opencl-nvidia-313.30-2 yaourt-1.3-1

Total Download Size: 98.91 MiB
Total Installed Size: 281.55 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -71.53 MiB[/quote]

At this rate you'll be able to run Arch of a floppy and still have space. :teehee:

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And again, it shrinks! I am really loving this.
Keep up the good work KDE, Libre Office, and others.

:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Packages (67): calibre-0.9.26-1 cups-filters-1.0.33-1 imagemagick-6.8.4.6-1 kactivities-4.10.2-1
kde-base-artwork-4.10.2-1 kdebase-dolphin-4.10.2-1 kdebase-katepart-4.10.2-1
kdebase-kdepasswd-4.10.2-1 kdebase-kdialog-4.10.2-1 kdebase-keditbookmarks-4.10.2-1
kdebase-kfind-4.10.2-1 kdebase-konq-plugins-4.10.2-1 kdebase-konqueror-4.10.2-1
kdebase-konsole-4.10.2-1 kdebase-kwrite-4.10.2-1 kdebase-lib-4.10.2-1 kdebase-plasma-4.10.2-1
kdebase-runtime-4.10.2-2 kdebase-workspace-4.10.2-1 kdegames-kmahjongg-4.10.2-1
kdegames-kpatience-4.10.2-1 kdegraphics-gwenview-4.10.2-1 kdegraphics-ksnapshot-4.10.2-1
kdegraphics-okular-4.10.2-1 kdelibs-4.10.2-1 kdemultimedia-kmix-4.10.2-1
kdenetwork-kget-4.10.2-1 kdenetwork-kopete-4.10.2-1 kdepim-akregator-4.10.2-1
kdepim-libkdepim-4.10.2-1 kdepim-runtime-4.10.2-1 kdepimlibs-4.10.2-1 kdesdk-kate-4.10.2-1
kdeutils-ark-4.10.2-1 kdeutils-kcalc-4.10.2-1 libkcddb-4.10.2-1 libkcompactdisc-4.10.2-1
libkdcraw-4.10.2-1 libkdegames-4.10.2-1 libkexiv2-4.10.2-1 libkipi-4.10.2-1
libkmahjongg-4.10.2-1 libksane-4.10.2-1 liblastfm-1.0.7-1 libreoffice-base-4.0.2-1
libreoffice-calc-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-common-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-draw-4.0.2-1
libreoffice-en-US-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-extension-wiki-publisher-4.0.2-1
libreoffice-impress-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-kde4-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-math-4.0.2-1
libreoffice-postgresql-connector-4.0.2-1 libreoffice-writer-4.0.2-1 libxi-1.7.1-1 libzip-0.11-1
linux-3.8.5-1 lm_sensors-3.3.3-2 lua-5.2.2-1 nepomuk-core-4.10.2-1 nepomuk-widgets-4.10.2-1
nvidia-313.30-2 nvidia-libgl-313.30-2 nvidia-utils-313.30-2 oxygen-icons-4.10.2-1
postgresql-libs-9.2.4-1

Total Download Size: 273.54 MiB
Total Installed Size: 871.87 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -43.02 MiB Edited by amenditman

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And again today,

"The Amazing,Shrinking Arch Linux"!!!

[CODE]
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
Packages (17): archlinux-keyring-20130406-1 harfbuzz-0.9.15-1 libreoffice-base-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-calc-4.0.2-2
libreoffice-common-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-draw-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-en-US-4.0.2-2
libreoffice-extension-wiki-publisher-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-impress-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-kde4-4.0.2-2
libreoffice-math-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-postgresql-connector-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-writer-4.0.2-2
psmisc-22.20-1 subversion-1.7.9-1 systemd-200-1 systemd-sysvcompat-200-1
Total Download Size: 81.32 MiB
Total Installed Size: 348.27 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -5.94 MiB
[/CODE]
Way to go Libre Office, systemd, and a few other little misc.

In the world of Operating systems this is truly great, amazing.....
You can't even run Windows 7 without 4 GB ram and at least 40 GB hard disk space, and Arch Linux, vanilla linux, is shrinking lots of packages almost everyday.

I love Linux! :wub: Edited by amenditman

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Yup even the small programs are still spring cleaning.

[quote]Packages (3): archlinux-keyring-20130406-1 harfbuzz-0.9.15-1 isl-0.11.1-2

Total Download Size: 1.24 MiB
Total Installed Size: 4.63 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -0.17 MiB[/quote]

amenditman your community loves you too :hug:

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[quote]Packages (24): flashplugin-11.2.202.280-1 git-1.8.2.1-1 glibc-2.17-5
lib32-glibc-2.17-5 lib32-harfbuzz-0.9.15-1
lib32-libpng-1.5.15-1 lib32-libxi-1.7.1-1 lib32-systemd-200-1
libldap-2.4.35-1 libpng-1.5.15-1 libva-1.1.1-1 linux-3.8.6-1
lirc-utils-1:0.9.0-41 mercurial-2.5.4-1 nspr-4.9.6-1
nvidia-313.30-3 orc-0.4.17-1 python-3.3.1-1 python2-2.7.4-1
python2-distribute-0.6.36-1 python2-lxml-3.1.1-1 sane-1.0.23-4
vlc-2.0.6-1 xulrunner-20.0-1

Total Download Size: 137.03 MiB
Total Installed Size: 497.91 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -26.12 MiB[/quote]

Phew another 26 MB gone. :fish:

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Me too.

[CODE]
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
Packages (21): chromium-26.0.1410.63-1 flashplugin-11.2.202.280-1 git-1.8.2.1-1 glibc-2.17-5 isl-0.11.1-2
kdepim-akregator-4.10.2-2 kdepim-libkdepim-4.10.2-2 lib32-glibc-2.17-5 libldap-2.4.35-1
libpng-1.5.15-1 libva-1.1.1-1 linux-3.8.6-1 mercurial-2.5.4-1 nspr-4.9.6-1 nvidia-313.30-3
orc-0.4.17-1 python-3.3.1-1 python2-2.7.4-1 python2-lxml-3.1.1-1 sane-1.0.23-4 vlc-2.0.6-1
Total Download Size: 143.84 MiB
Total Installed Size: 524.48 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -22.48 MiB
[/CODE]
Between this and clearing the cached packages no longer installed or needed I need a smaller HDD. It's lonely and echoey in there!

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And again today.
Even with all the extra junk I have installed I could run this setup from an 8 GB flash stick (not counting my massive file storage partition).

[CODE]:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Packages (19): binutils-2.23.2-2 calibre-0.9.27-1 cifs-utils-6.0-1 cups-filters-1.0.34-1 firefox-20.0.1-2
ldb-1.1.15-1 libbsd-0.4.2-1 libcap-2.22-4 libdiscid-0.5.0-1 libkolab-0.4.2-1
libkolabxml-0.8.4-1 libwbclient-4.0.5-1 opencv-2.4.5-1 python2-psutil-0.7.0-1 smbclient-4.0.5-1
sqlite-3.7.16.2-1 systemd-201-1 systemd-sysvcompat-201-1 tevent-0.9.18-1

Total Download Size: 58.34 MiB
Total Installed Size: 221.82 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -41.66 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] [/CODE]

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[CODE]
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvroot 15G 5.4G 8.6G 39% /
dev 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev
run 4.0G 596K 4.0G 1% /run
tmpfs 4.0G 0 4.0G 0% /dev/shm
tmpfs 4.0G 0 4.0G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs 4.0G 128K 4.0G 1% /tmp
/dev/sdb4 457G 208G 226G 48% /DATA
/dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvvar 15G 1.7G 13G 12% /var
/dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvlog 4.8G 291M 4.3G 7% /var/log
/dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvhome 20G 5.2G 14G 28% /home
[/CODE]

Ok, so I still need the 16 GB stick, but it's down to just over 12 GB (/, /var, /var/log, /home).
And that is with a pretty full KDE install with a bunch of extras. Edited by amenditman

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[quote name='amenditman' timestamp='1365897686' post='372529']
I got an email notification that securitybreach responded to this thread, but it is not showing up even after 2 hours.
[/quote]

Eh, do not worry about it was nothing. B)

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[CODE] df -h /
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sde5 15G 4.7G 9.0G 35% /[/CODE]

An that includes all the extra that has just appeared with E17 updates. That is some bloated system your running amenditman :harhar:

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[quote name='abarbarian' timestamp='1366122991' post='372724']
[CODE] df -h /
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sde5 15G 4.7G 9.0G 35% /[/CODE]

An that includes all the extra that has just appeared with E17 updates. That is some bloated system your running amenditman :harhar:
[/quote]That's because I have kdebase and a bunch of kde apps as well as a bunch of gnome stuff. That way I have the best of both worlds. Oh, and LXDE just for fun.

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[quote name='abarbarian' timestamp='1366122991' post='372724']
[CODE] df -h /
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sde5 15G 4.7G 9.0G 35% /[/CODE]

An that includes all the extra that has just appeared with E17 updates. That is some bloated system your running amenditman :harhar:
[/quote]

You think that one is bad. Here is mine:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/6pATmHw.png[/img]

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[quote]Packages (39): alsa-lib-1.0.27-1 alsa-plugins-1.0.27-1 alsa-utils-1.0.27-4
binutils-multilib-2.23.2-2 bison-2.7.1-1 cups-filters-1.0.34-1
curl-7.30.0-1 enlightenment-1.0.13-1 expat-2.1.0-2
firefox-20.0.1-2 fox-1.6.49-1 freeglut-2.8.1-1
gcc-libs-multilib-4.8.0-2 gcc-multilib-4.8.0-2 gpm-1.20.7-2
isl-0.11.2-1 kmod-13-1 lib32-alsa-lib-1.0.27-1
lib32-curl-7.30.0-1 lib32-flashplugin-11.2.202.280-1
lib32-gcc-libs-4.8.0-2 lib32-libldap-2.4.35-1
lib32-nspr-4.9.6-1 lib32-sqlite-3.7.16.2-1 lib32-systemd-201-1
libcdio-paranoia-10.2+0.90+1-1 liblqr-0.4.2-1 linux-3.8.7-1
m4-1.4.16-3 net-snmp-5.7.2-4 perl-5.16.3-2
python2-numpy-1.7.1-1 python2-psutil-0.7.0-1 qpdf-4.1.0-1
sqlite-3.7.16.2-1 systemd-201-2 systemd-sysvcompat-201-2
tar-1.26-3 wayland-1.1.0-1

Total Download Size: 131.30 MiB
Total Installed Size: 374.69 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -26.58 MiB[/quote]

Going down again :clap:

Blimey Josh you must have every program ever invented installed.

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[quote name='abarbarian' timestamp='1366195827' post='372833']
Blimey Josh you must have every program ever invented installed.
[/quote]

Not really as I only have 9032 MB of applications:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/PYa3J4Z.jpg[/img]

[url="http://i.imgur.com/PYa3J4Z.jpg"]http://i.imgur.com/PYa3J4Z.jpg[/url]

The application I used to generate the chart is called pacgraph and is available in the Community repo:

[quote]Draws a graph of installed packages to PNG/SVG/GUI/console. Good for finding bloat.[/quote]
[url="http://kmkeen.com/pacgraph/"]http://kmkeen.com/pacgraph/[/url]

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