the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 i run gedit then i copy the menu.lst file from the /boot/grub folder and I mofied and deleted title DOSrootnoverify (hd0,0)chainloader +1although how can I replace the file ? The icon has a (no entry) sign on it...and it tells I'm not the owner and I cant replace it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hi FarmerPlease show me ls -al /boot before you do anything else. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 [root@localhost mike]# ls -al /boottotal 4826drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1024 Oct 3 01:30 .drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 4096 Oct 4 15:49 ..-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5824 Sep 6 2002 boot.b-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 612 Sep 6 2002 chain.b-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 42111 Sep 5 2002 config-2.4.18-14drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Oct 3 02:09 grub-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 129875 Oct 3 01:30 initrd-2.4.18-14.img-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 473 Oct 3 01:30 kernel.hdrwx------ 2 root root 12288 Oct 3 01:11 lost+found-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23108 Sep 6 2002 message-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21282 Sep 6 2002 message.jalrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Oct 3 01:29 module-info -> module-info-2.4.18-14-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15436 Sep 5 2002 module-info-2.4.18-14-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 640 Sep 6 2002 os2_d.blrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Oct 3 01:29 System.map -> System.map-2.4.18-14-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 501166 Sep 5 2002 System.map-2.4.18-14-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3063962 Sep 5 2002 vmlinux-2.4.18-14lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 3 01:29 vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.4.18-14-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1085191 Sep 5 2002 vmlinuz-2.4.18-14[root@localhost mike]# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hi FarmerI don see either the Alsa-kernel . . . nor the lucent-kernel installed . . . . what happened ?? BrunoPS: If you take out "DOS" from the bootloader you will not be able to boot Windows anymore . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 both the alsa and lucent kernel cant be installed they are prompting me to install the same rpm itself..e.g.alsa-kernel.at.i386.rpmthen, it will showalsa-kernel.at unable to locate the fileabout removing the DOS option in grub, I just want to try it out if it will work, and I will revert back the original menu.lst file which I saved earlier. I just want to learn how to edit things and have it made to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 or i will just only change the timer to 0 instead of 10 secthen I will revert back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 (edited) i did it!gedit /etc/grub.confit worked Edited October 4, 2005 by the_farmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 @Brunoa friend is selling me his pcmcia modem having the model number MD56002/FM560LKi checked this sitehttp://free.hostdepartment.com/g/gromitkc/pcmcia_list.htmlit's there alright and seem to be supportedMy question: is this based on the 2.4 kernel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hi!I would be very hesitant to purchase that modem. It is a winmodem with a Lucent chipset. It shows that someone got it to work but on the website for the company says it has no compatibility with anything other than Windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Me too . . I would not buy a winmodem . . even if they say that there are drivers for it.As for the kernels you downloaded . . . where did you download them to ?? Your /home ?? Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 @ brunoyes I downloaded it ang placed it /homewhere should i suppose to put it?about the modem...any recommends ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 if it is in /home please show me the output of # ls -al Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 for the sound package actually it's in /home/mike/rpm/sound this is the result for [root@localhost mike]# ls -altotal 300drwx------ 25 mike mike 4096 Oct 5 05:33 .drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Oct 3 02:09 ..-rw------- 1 mike mike 0 Oct 2 18:18 .autorun.lck-rw------- 1 mike mike 165 Oct 4 22:16 .bash_history-rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike 24 Oct 3 02:09 .bash_logout-rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike 191 Oct 3 02:09 .bash_profile-rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike 124 Oct 3 02:09 .bashrcdrwx------ 3 mike mike 4096 Oct 2 21:58 Desktopdrwxrwxr-x 3 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 11:53 .emacs.ddrwx------ 2 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 12:40 .file-roller-rw-rw-r-- 1 mike mike 0 Oct 2 18:16 .first_start_kde-rw-rw-r-- 1 mike mike 38800 Oct 3 09:30 .fonts.cache-1-rw------- 1 mike mike 894 Oct 2 19:22 .gaimrcdrwx------ 5 mike mike 4096 Oct 5 05:21 .gconfdrwx------ 3 mike mike 4096 Oct 5 05:33 .gconfddrwx------ 7 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 23:23 .gnomedrwxr-xr-x 6 mike mike 4096 Oct 5 00:45 .gnome2drwx------ 2 mike mike 4096 Oct 2 18:18 .gnome2_privatedrwxr-xr-x 3 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 11:51 .gnome-desktopdrwx------ 2 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 23:23 .gnome_private-rw-rw-r-- 1 mike mike 1063 Oct 4 23:23 .grip-rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike 120 Oct 3 02:09 .gtkrc-rw-rw-r-- 1 mike mike 135 Oct 4 13:30 .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2-rw-rw-r-- 1 mike mike 1111 Oct 2 21:09 .gtkrc-kde-rw------- 1 mike mike 187 Oct 5 05:21 .ICEauthoritydrwxr-xr-x 4 mike mike 4096 Oct 2 18:17 .kdedrwxr-xr-x 3 mike mike 4096 Oct 2 18:17 .mcop-rw------- 1 mike mike 31 Oct 2 21:09 .mcoprcdrwx------ 3 mike mike 4096 Oct 2 22:00 .metacitydrwxrwxr-x 3 mike mike 4096 Oct 2 18:25 .mozilla-rw-rw-r-- 1 mike mike 7105 Oct 4 11:38 msg03656.htmldrwxr-xr-x 4 mike mike 4096 Oct 2 22:02 .nautilusdrwxr-xr-x 2 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 16:39 progdrwxrwxr-x 2 mike mike 4096 Oct 2 18:17 .qt-rw------- 1 mike mike 497 Oct 2 18:18 .rhn-applet.confdrwxrwxr-x 4 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 23:32 rpmdrwxr-xr-x 2 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 16:51 showthread.php_files-rw-rw-r-- 1 mike mike 81708 Oct 4 16:51 showthread.php.htmldrwxrwxr-x 2 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 02:17 .themes-rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike 61 Oct 4 17:05 titleDOSdrwx------ 2 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 22:08 .Trashdrwxrwxr-x 2 mike mike 4096 Oct 2 18:23 .tuxracer-rw------- 1 mike mike 213 Oct 5 05:21 .Xauthority-rw-rw-r-- 1 mike mike 0 Oct 2 19:25 .xinitrc-rw-rw-r-- 1 mike mike 8085 Oct 4 16:10 .xscreensaver-rw------- 1 mike mike 92 Oct 5 05:21 .xsession-errorsdrwx------ 3 mike mike 4096 Oct 3 20:14 .ymessenger[root@localhost mike]# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hi FarmerI do not see the alsa kernel in there . . . . nor the lt kernel . . . . Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 I can't install those kernels you gave meand they are in /home/mike/rpm/sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Then please show me # ls -al /home/mike/rpm/sound Sure you can install them . . . you only have to know how :DB) Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 [mike@localhost mike]$ suPassword:[root@localhost mike]# ls -al /home/mike/rpm/soundtotal 2804drwxrwxr-x 2 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 23:32 .drwxrwxr-x 4 mike mike 4096 Oct 4 23:32 ..-rw------- 1 mike mike 30033 Oct 4 09:51 alsa-devices-2-0_31.rh8.0.at.noarch.rpm-rwxrwxr-x 1 mike mike 295293 Oct 1 16:20 alsa-driver-1.0.3-1.cvs.rh80.ccrma.i386.rpm-rwxrwxr-x 1 mike mike 1161937 Oct 2 23:24 alsa-kernel-2.4.24-1.ll.rh80.ccrma-1.0.1-1.cvs.rh80.ccrma.i386.rpm-rwxrwxr-x 1 mike mike 790575 Oct 1 16:25 alsa-lib-1.0.3-1.cvs.rh80.ccrma.i386.rpm-rwxrwxr-x 1 mike mike 55998 Oct 1 16:26 alsa-oss-1.0.3-1.cvs.rh80.ccrma.i386.rpm-rwxrwxr-x 1 mike mike 332546 Oct 1 16:28 alsa-tools-1.0.3-1.cvs.rh80.ccrma.i386.rpm-rwxrwxr-x 1 mike mike 154009 Oct 1 16:29 alsa-utils-1.0.3-1.cvs.rh80.ccrma.i386.rpm[root@localhost mike]# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Okay . . now do # rpm -ihv /home/mike/rpm/sound/alsa-kernel-2.4.24-1.ll.rh80.ccrma-1.0.1-1.cvs.rh80.ccrma.i386.rpm ( Command is ONE line )Please show me the outputB) Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 [root@localhost mike]# rpm -ihv /home/mike/rpm/sound/alsa-kernel-2.4.24-1.ll.rh80.ccrma-1.0.1-1.cvs.rh80.ccrma.i386.rpmerror: Failed dependencies: kernel = 2.4.24-1.ll.rh80.ccrma is needed by alsa-kernel-2.4.24-1.ll.rh80.ccrma-1.0.1-1.cvs.rh80.ccrma kernel-version-i386 = 2.4.24-1.ll.rh80.ccrma is needed by alsa-kernel-2.4.24-1.ll.rh80.ccrma-1.0.1-1.cvs.rh80.ccrma[root@localhost mike]# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Aaahaaaa . . now I see what is happening . . . . okay let me do some research and we will hack that tomorrow Burno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 thank pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 Bruno,sir I had run scanmodem and detection is sucessful. But Im totally lost on what to do next maybe you can help me out here are the details:as I run the scanmodem.gz at the terminal here is the result: [root@localhost mike]# /home/mike/modemscan/scanModemUPDATE=2005_Oct_1ONLY use scanModem downloaded as: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz/home/mike/modemscan/scanModem should ONLY be run within a Linux/UNIX partition.If within a MicroSoft/DOS partition, abort with Ctrl-C now !!!Copy scanModem.gz to your Linux partition and restart./home/mike/modemscan/scanModem: line 1: lsmod: command not found A subfolder Modem/ has been written, containing these files with more detailed Information: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1stRead.txt DriverCompiling.txt InfoGeneral.txt ModemData.txt Rational.txt Slmodem-ALSA.txt Slmodem.txt Testing.txt UNSUBSCRIBE.txt YourModem.txt------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please read 1stRead.txt first for Guidance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 --------- lspci scan ---------------- PCI_bus00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 430TX - 82439TX MTXC (rev 01)00:02.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1250 (rev 02)00:02.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1250 (rev 02)00:03.0 VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2160 [MagicGraph 128XD] (rev 01)00:06.0 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)00:06.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)00:06.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)00:06.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 01) ======= PCI_ID checking completed ====== Update=2005_Oct_1Analyzing information for PCMCIA device at PCI Bus 00:02.000:02.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1250 (rev 02) Subsystem: IBM: Unknown device 0092 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 11GREPping for an inserted PCMCIA modem with filter: ommunicationAnalyzing information for PCMCIA device at PCI Bus 00:02.100:02.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1250 (rev 02) Subsystem: IBM: Unknown device 0092 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 11GREPping for an inserted PCMCIA modem with filter: ommunication If a PCMCIA modem is currently inserted and the sockets activated by /etc/init.d/pcmcia start then the PCMCIA bridge is NOT transparent. If the modem is known to have a Lucent digital signal processing chipset, then PCMCIA.tar.gz variant assembled by Joern Wustenfeld is necessary, rather than the standard ltmodem-8.31a10.tar.gz at http://ltmodem.heby.de/GCCversion=3.2The following information blocks just query some ppp support items.==================================================== grep -rs ppp /etc/modules.conf-------------------------------------------------------------------------- PPP support module bsd_comp.o not found! Resident PPP support modules are properly uncompressed . COMM services are not activeBe sure to read the section about ppp related modules and aliases in Modem/YourModem.txtDEVPPP=crw------- 1 root root 108, 0 Aug 31 2002 /dev/pppA /dev/modem symbolic link is not present No devfsd.conf file found, indicated absense of the devfsd daemon package for device file system (devfs) symbolic link support.DEVFSD= ---- dmesg queries -------IBM machine detected. Enabling interrupts during APM calls.apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16) For usage of winmodems with the kernel-2.4.nn Fedora releases a change in the serial-like driver code of WinModems is necessary. See for guidance: http://hepunx.rl.ac.uk/~wmurray/pctel/pctel.html Basically , the line: if ((tty->count == 1) && (state->count != 1)) { should be changed into: if (atomic_read(&tty->count) == 1 && state->count != 1) { This works in the ltmodem code too. See http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/archive-third/msg02360.html An error about "rs_close" during compiling is a signature that the fedora fix is needed For kernel-version 2.4.20-8 , a failure in automatic loading of PPP related modules has been reported. It was necessary to manually load with: /sbin/modprobe /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/kernel/drivers/net ppp_generic /sbin/modprobe /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/kernel/drivers/net ppp_deflate /sbin/modprobe /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/kernel/drivers/net ppp_synctty /sbin/modprobe /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/kernel/drivers/net ppp_async or dialout efforts failed. The Internet Configuration Wizard writes a configuration file: /etc/ wvdial.conf containing a line default line Stupid Mode = yes Better dialup performance may be achieved by commenting out this line as: # Stupid Mode = yes If the Smartlink slmodemd is used for port creation, an added line is necessary Carrier Check = no Also non-USA Users may need to add to the [Modem0] block: Init2 = AT+GCI=hexadecimal_country_code but test without it first. redhat is not yet providing pre-compiled drivers for WinModems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I don't think the output is that clear about your PCMCIA: Analyzing information for PCMCIA device at PCI Bus 00:02.100:02.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1250 (rev 02)Subsystem: IBM: Unknown device 0092Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 11GREPping for an inserted PCMCIA modem with filter: ommunicationIf a PCMCIA modem is currently inserted and the sockets activated by/etc/init.d/pcmcia startthen the PCMCIA bridge is NOT transparent.If the modem is known to have a Lucent digital signal processing chipset,then PCMCIA.tar.gz variant assembled by Joern Wustenfeld is necessary,rather than the standard ltmodem-8.31a10.tar.gz at http://ltmodem.heby.de/GCCversion=3.2Also it says: lsmod: command not found This seems very unusual to me . . . maybe you can open a terminal and type $ su< password ># lsmod And see what it puts out to screen. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 This might be interesting though . . . Support for ltmodem PCMCIA cards in configurations with non-transparent PCMCIA bridges (e.g. Texas Instruments). Contributed by Jörn Wüstenfeld.From http://ltmodem.heby.de/ with drivers and kernel here: http://www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/heby/ltmodem/pcmcia Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 [mike@localhost mike]$ suPassword:[root@localhost mike]# lsmodbash: lsmod: command not found[root@localhost mike]# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Hi FarmerI think you will have to make a choice of what you think is more important: The Sound or the Modem . . . . Because they both need a special kernel we will not be able to tackle them both.Now I was reading in the beginning of this thread that you could connect to the internet . . . so is in that case the sound not more important ?It is your choice . . . attack the Sound or the Modem ( and with the modem are we talking the PCMCIA card or the internal modem ? See, with old hardware and an old distro you have to make compromises . . you can't have it all . . . . you could try a more recent distro geared to old hardware ( Vector Linux or Puppy Linux ) . . . or upgrade your hardware that it can handle other recent distros. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) @brunoThe sound and modem are the only two left unused in this system but for the meantime,I will upgrade my cardbus modem, I will look for a decent model that is compatible with linuxlet's get on with the sound card problem firstthanks Edited October 5, 2005 by the_farmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_farmer Posted October 6, 2005 Author Share Posted October 6, 2005 (edited) bruno,I downloaded oss from opensource and I made the soundcard to work!YEHEY! Edited October 6, 2005 by the_farmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burninbush Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Farmer ... I'll just toss this out; I have an elderly ThinkPad 600 here, and have had good success with a couple of different linux distros [live cds] using a Megahertz 3ccm156 modem. These were sold by 3com starting maybe 10 years ago, and you could likely find one used [ebay?] pretty cheaply. Mine works far better than the built-in dsp modem in the 600 on win2k, so I've just got that disabled in cmos. Regularly get 50k connections with the 3ccm on a good phone line. Be sure to get one with a cable -- getting a replacement cable would cost more than the modem card. It is just found on bootup and works fine with Kanotix, Knoppix, Mepis, and SAM; maybe others also, but not that many live cds work very well on the 600. Have Kanotix 2005-03 on it right now, best I've seen so far on that laptop. Sound hasn't worked yet, but that isn't important to me on that puter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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