To Hear or Not to Hear

[teacher]

Scenario:In my odyssey the other day on one of my installs I suddenly had sound. I had missed that since going to 9.2 RC1 but figured I would get to it. When I knew I was going to have to make changes with the 9.2 I went in and wrote down what I could see about how it is working.

Vendor:  IntelAlternate drivers:  ali5455: i810_audio:nvaudioBus:  PCIBus ID:  8086:24c5:8086:109Location on bus:  0:1f:5Description:  ICH4 845G/GL Chipset  AC'97 Audio ControllerModule:  snd-intel8x0Media class:  Multimedia_Audio

Of course it is all set that way now but no sound...... Here is what I have found when running the sound trouble shooting suggestions:

[root@localhost share]# lspcidrake -v | fgrep AUDIOsnd-intel8x0    : Intel Corporation|ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:8086 device:24c5 subv:8086 subd:0109) [root@localhost share]# grep sound-slot /etc/modules.confalias sound-slot-0 ali5455[root@localhost share]# /sbin/lsmodModule                  Size  Used by    Not taintedide-tape            48816 0  (autoclean)sg                  35068 0  (autoclean)loop                14260 0  (autoclean)aes                    31808 0  (autoclean) [loop]ide-floppy          16128 0  (autoclean)sd_mod              13804 0  (autoclean) (unused)isofs                  28148 1  (autoclean)udf                    88736 0  (autoclean)lp                      8160 0parport_pc          25544 1parport                34472 1  [lp parport_pc]radeon                108512  17agpgart                48292 3  (autoclean)nfsd                75280 0  (autoclean)af_packet              14856 1  (autoclean)sr_mod              19384 0  (autoclean)floppy              55932 0eepro100            22100 1  (autoclean)mii                  3864 0  (autoclean) [eepro100]supermount          84032 3  (autoclean)nls_iso8859-1        3484 3  (autoclean)nls_cp850            4284 2  (autoclean)vfat                11820 2  (autoclean)fat                    38040 0  (autoclean) [vfat]ide-cd              33956 1cdrom                  32608 0  [sr_mod ide-cd]ide-scsi            11376 0scsi_mod              106176 4  [sg sd_mod sr_mod ide-scsi]ehci-hcd            19212 0  (unused)usb-uhci            25136 0  (unused)usbcore                74988 1  [ehci-hcd usb-uhci]rtc                  9004 0  (autoclean)ext3                60048 5jbd                    39264 5  [ext3][root@localhost share]# /sbin/chkconfig --list soundsound        0:off 1:off 2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:off[root@localhost share]# /sbin/chkconfig --list alsaalsa            0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off[root@localhost share]# /sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp/dev/dsp: No such file or directory

I see that the alsa is set to off for 1 - 6 and that concerns me..... I also have no clue as to what fuser happens to be.....So put on your thinking caps, if you are game, and see if you can help me figure out why I don't have any sound.

[Bruno]

[root@localhost share]# grep sound-slot /etc/modules.confalias sound-slot-0 ali5455

You´re still using the old script Owyn made ( he posted an updated one ) . . .I can´t see the full /etc/modules.conf here . . . please:cat /etc/modules.confB) Bruno

[teacher]

Actually I was using the script in Mandrake 9.2 MCC.

[root@localhost share]# cat /etc/modules.confabove snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-ossprobeall usb-interface usb-uhci ehci-hcdalias eth0 eepro100alias sound-slot-0 ali5455probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi

Is this better?

[Bruno]

PART 2I don´t see any sound modules loaded . . . Bruno

[teacher]

[root@localhost share]# ./soundchk.shsoundchk.sh v1.02 - Running Sound Configuration ChecksIdentifying SystemLinux localhost 2.4.22-10mdk #1 Thu Sep 18 12:30:58 CEST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/LinuxChecking DevicesChecking Driversnd-intel8x0    : Intel Corporation|ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:8086 device:24c5 subv:8086 subd:0109)Checking Actual Driver in Use (/etc/modules.conf)above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-ossalias sound-slot-0 ali5455Checking if Module LoadedChecking if services configured to be run on initlevel 3Checking if Sound services configuredsound        0:off 1:off 2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:offChecking if Alsa service configuredalsa            0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:offChecking if Sound Volume mutedTest not available on this systemChecking which program uses the sound card/dev/dsp: No such file or directory

Is this the script I was to run?If I don't have any modules loaded, how and what do I load?

[Bruno]

Yep that is the script.

If I don't have any modules loaded, how do I load them?

They have to be loaded by the modules.conf at boot . . . What I find strange is the: "alias sound-slot-0 ali5455" . . . are you sure the ali5455 is the correct driver/module ? The very first quote in your first post here, is that the situation when you did have sound ?? Bruno

[teacher]

Yes that is what it said when I had sound and that is what it is set on now..... It said: Alt driver: ali 5455:i810_audio:vnaudio. Ir also gives an option of snd-intel8x0 when you go to "Driver" options under the sound configuration.

[Bruno]

snd-intel8x0

That is the one you need ! . . . Change your modules.conf and run the test again !If all else fails let´s do a search on the forum for an old /etc/modules.conf of yours from 9.1 and see what that one looked like.You have posted that one on more occasions . . . . Bruno

[Owyn]

Just rebooted my test system to Mandrake 9.2Back shortly

[Bruno]

OwynThe "ali5455" does not load any sound modules in her output of the script . . it can´t be the right one. Bruno

[Bruno]

JuliaI think we are waiting for you to open /etc/modules.conf in vi and edit that line from:alias sound-slot-0 ali5455toalias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0And then run Owyn´s script again . . . . . . . . Julia . . . where have you gone . . Julia . . . ? ( kidnapped by her soundcard ? ) Bruno

Edited October 31, 2003 by Bruno

[Owyn]

Hi.Just finished running some tests on Mdk92. I was initially using the OSS (non-alsa) drivers. Everything working just fine. I switched to the Alsa drivers in DrakSound, rebooted (my OSS driver is blacklisted, hangs system if unloaded). Oops no sound.MCC->Install. Added all packages for "alsa" and "aumix".Initially no sound. Alsamixer and Kmix seem to be confused but Aumix worked.Need to trace down details of new mixer controls.Recommendation: Install aumix asap.

[teacher]

You have to tell me these things. I did not get that.

soundchk.sh v1.02 - Running Sound Configuration ChecksIdentifying SystemLinux localhost 2.4.22-10mdk #1 Thu Sep 18 12:30:58 CEST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/LinuxChecking DevicesChecking Driversnd-intel8x0    : Intel Corporation|ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:8086 device:24c5 subv:8086 subd:0109)Checking Actual Driver in Use (/etc/modules.conf)above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-ossalias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0Checking if Module LoadedChecking if services configured to be run on initlevel 3Checking if Sound services configuredsound        0:off 1:off 2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:offChecking if Alsa service configuredalsa            0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:offChecking if Sound Volume mutedTest not available on this systemChecking which program uses the sound card/dev/dsp: No such file or directoryEnd of Checks

[Owyn]

JuliaI think we are waiting for you to open /etc/modules.conf in vi and edit that line from:alias sound-slot-0 ali5455toalias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0And then run Owyn´s script again . . . . . . . . Julia . . . where have you gone . .  Julia . . . ? ( kidnapped by her soundcard ? ) Bruno

It would be better if Julia opened a console. Then "su" and "draksound".In "draksound" use "configure module" to switch to alternate alsa (snd-...) driver.

[Bruno]

Guess you´re right . . . . just hope it will not put additional lines in the modules.conf . . we will have to check that. Bruno

[teacher]

Aumix installed.When I go to aumix controls the knob spins but nothing happens. Nothing shows up on the tree to kill either.

[teacher]

IIt would be better if Julia opened a console. Then "su" and "draksound".In "draksound" use "configure module" to switch to alternate alsa (snd-...) driver.

I had already tried both ways. In fact, I tried every configuration possible that way. Same menu from the MCC.

[teacher]

Checking Driversnd-intel8x0    : Intel Corporation|ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:8086 device:24c5 subv:8086 subd:0109)Checking Actual Driver in Use (/etc/modules.conf)above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-ossalias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0Checking if Module LoadedChecking if services configured to be run on initlevel 3Checking if Sound services configuredsound        0:off 1:off 2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:offChecking if Alsa service configuredalsa            0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:offChecking if Sound Volume mutedaumix:  error opening mixerChecking which program uses the sound card/dev/dsp: No such file or directoryEnd of Checks

See the error opening mixer? Now what? I even checked for updates.... Should I reboot?

[Owyn]

Julia: This is from my Mdk92 system while playing mp3 in XMMS

[root@localhost test]# ./soundchk.shsoundchk.sh v1.02 - Running Sound Configuration ChecksIdentifying SystemLinux localhost 2.4.22-10mdk #1 Thu Sep 18 12:30:58 CEST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/LinuxChecking Deviceslr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root        10 Oct 31 16:02 adsp -> sound/adsplr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root        11 Oct 31 16:02 audio -> sound/audiolr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root        12 Oct 31 16:02 dmmidi -> sound/dmmidilr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root            9 Oct 31 16:02 dsp -> sound/dsplr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root        10 Oct 31 16:02 midi -> sound/midilr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root        11 Oct 31 16:02 mixer -> sound/mixerlr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root        15 Oct 31 16:02 sequencer -> sound/sequencerlr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root        16 Oct 31 16:02 sequencer2 -> sound/sequencer2drwxr-xr-x    1 root  root            0 Dec 31  1969 soundChecking Drivercs46xx          : Cirrus Logic|CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:1013 device:6003 subv:5053 subd:3357)Checking Actual Driver in Use (/etc/modules.conf)alias sound-slot-0 snd-cs46xxabove snd-cs46xx snd-pcm-ossChecking if Module Loadedsnd-seq-midi            5056 0  (autoclean) (unused)snd-seq-oss            32000 0  (unused)snd-seq-midi-event      6080 0  [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss]snd-seq                42544 2  [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]snd-pcm-oss            43652 1snd-mixer-oss          14200 1  [snd-pcm-oss]snd-cs46xx          78024 4snd-ac97-codec      45720 0  [snd-cs46xx]snd-rawmidi            17760 0  [snd-seq-midi snd-cs46xx]snd-seq-device          5832 0  [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi]snd-pcm                79588 0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-cs46xx]snd-timer              18436 0  [snd-seq snd-pcm]gameport                3268 0  [snd-cs46xx]snd-page-alloc          9044 0  [snd-cs46xx snd-pcm]snd                    41380 2  [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cs46xx snd-ac97-codec snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-pcm snd-timer]soundcore            6340 0  [snd]Checking if services configured to be run on initlevel 3Checking if Sound services configuredsound        0:off 1:off 2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:offChecking if Alsa service configuredalsa            0:off 1:off 2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:offChecking if Sound Volume mutedvol 50, 50, Ppcm 100, 100speaker 0, 0line 0, 0, Pmic 0, 0, Rcd 0, 0, Ppcm2 0, 0igain 0, 0line1 0, 0, Pline2 0, 0phin 0, 0, Pvideo 0, 0, PChecking which program uses the sound card                  USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND/dev/dsp          owyn    2443 f....  artsdEnd of Checks[root@localhost test]#

[Bruno]

Yep you should reboot to load the new driversB) Bruno

[teacher]

So I have no program that uses the sound card. I have installed aumix but it is not working. I have run the updates. I have changed configurations through command line, vi, and MCC. What now?

[Owyn]

Guess you´re right . . . . just hope it will not put additional lines in the modules.conf . . we will have to check that. Bruno

The grep in the script will catch any extra lines.The reason for running draksound from the console is to catch any error messages.

[Bruno]

In stead of rebooting you could also do:# depmod -aB) Bruno

[Owyn]

So I have no program that uses the sound card.  I have installed aumix but it is not working.  I have run the updates.  I have changed configurations through command line, vi, and MCC.  What now?

You won't see a program using sound until you start one. I am running XMMS to activate PCM and thence artsd.Let's see what your script output looks like after the reboot.

[teacher]

Shall I tell you what they are saying on the Linux Show?

[Owyn]

Back in 5 Julia. Supper needs some fixins.

[Bruno]

Congrats Julia !!!! Make a backup copy of your /etc/modules.conf and store it somewhere safe !( can we see the output of Owyn´s script again ? ) Bruno

[teacher]

Let's see what your script output looks like after the reboot.

soundchk.sh v1.02 - Running Sound Configuration ChecksIdentifying SystemLinux localhost 2.4.22-21mdk-i686-up-4GB #1 Fri Oct 24 20:48:24 MDT 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/LinuxChecking Deviceslr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root        10 Oct 31 16:47 adsp -> sound/adsplr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root        11 Oct 31 16:47 audio -> sound/audiolr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root            9 Oct 31 16:47 dsp -> sound/dsplr-xr-xr-x    1 root  root        11 Oct 31 16:47 mixer -> sound/mixerdrwxr-xr-x    1 root  root            0 Dec 31  1969 soundChecking Driversnd-intel8x0    : Intel Corporation|ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (vendor:8086 device:24c5 subv:8086 subd:0109)Checking Actual Driver in Use (/etc/modules.conf)above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-ossalias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0Checking if Module Loadedsnd-pcm-oss            46500 0  (unused)snd-mixer-oss          15928 1  [snd-pcm-oss]snd-intel8x0        23620 4snd-pcm                85796 1  [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0]snd-timer              19652 0  [snd-pcm]snd-ac97-codec      49784 0  [snd-intel8x0]snd-page-alloc          9748 0  [snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm]snd-mpu401-uart      5120 0  [snd-intel8x0]snd-rawmidi            18624 0  [snd-mpu401-uart]snd-seq-device          6152 0  [snd-rawmidi]snd                    43812 2  [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]soundcore            6628 0  [snd]Checking if services configured to be run on initlevel 3Checking if Sound services configuredsound        0:off 1:off 2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:offChecking if Alsa service configuredalsa            0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:offChecking if Sound Volume mutedvol 65, 65, Ppcm 65, 65line 65, 65, Pmic 65, 65, Rcd 65, 65, Pigain 27, 27line1 65, 65, Pphin 65, 65, Pvideo 100, 100, PChecking which program uses the sound card

I guess this will work?

[Bruno]

See . . you needed to load the right driver : snd-intel8x0 !!( it only gets loaded at reboot or 'depmod -a' ) Bruno

[teacher]

Back in 5 Julia. Supper needs some fixins.

Careful Owyn. I think you missed something. You were about 1 minute too soon! Many thanks Owyn and Bruno. It is nice to hear sound again on this computer. What shall I tackle next?