Running Mepis in Virtual Box.

[Bruno]

but the screen size remains as it was!

Meaning ?? What is the resolution it uses now ?? ( if you are not sure start "krandrtray" from the terminal, it will put an icon next to the clock that tells you what resolution it uses and what other resolutions are possible )Anyway I am curious about the xorg.conf file Katy will post . . . . . .and if just like you she is using Windows as host for VirtualBox . . . Bruno

[katy98]

I think that there we did something before that caused a problem as remember yesterday when we where in the XFdrake --auto......when we final tried the reboot I got the funny lines at the bottom of the screen that were not there before....I still have them. I think that the 24 is not correct and should be changed to 16bpp. If you look back I think you will see that was what it was at some point before the funny lines . I am going to change it and report back!

Hi Irv! I tried to follow this thread and just am totally lost. All I know is, I used Vista for host OS. My resolution for Vista is set to 1280 x 800 pixels, 32 bit, and the driver is Generic PnP Monitor on Mobile Intel® 945 Express Chipset Family. My laptop is a Sony.Then I use VirtualBox to install Mandriva 2007. That was a slight problem at the beginning but with all the fine Gentlemen's help here in Scot's, I finally could set a resolution in the vitual machine called Mandy that at full screen 'does not require scrolling'. Because my host OS resolution is 1280x800, I was told by 'someone' to edit a file to ADD this resolution to those already in that file (others will have to tell you what file that is and how to get to it). Then after editting that file, and restarting the virtual box and Mandy, I went to Configure your Computer which is an icon on the task bar 3 icons to the right of the Menu button. Clicking that icon opened up Mandriva Linux Control Center. In there, called Control Center, on the left side I clicked on Hardware. Then on the right side I clicked on Set up the Graphical Server. In the window that came up, my Graphic Card is: VirtualBox virtual video card, chosen from the drop down arrow. Then below that is Monitor: Mine is set to Katy, which is what Urmas told me to name my monitor in the 'Post 31'.... here's the link to that thread: http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.ph...hl=virtualmandy. Next line down is Resolution. I am set at 1280x800 to match host OS, below that is 16 million colors (24 bits). After making these setting changes, click on Test to see how it looks but I don't think the test will show how this works until you save/click ok, restart your virtualbox and finally do Control+F to get full screen after the desktop comes up.That's how I am set up with Mandriva 2007. I realize your linux distro is a version of Mandriva so I'm not sure how this information will work for you but you would customize the above with your own distro. You've been through a lot with changes in distros and editting, etc. If I were you, I'd uninstall the distro and start over. In fact I did that about 4 times when I first installed my Mandy in VirtualBox just because it's easier. I do hope all of this makes sense and someone more familiar with linux can explain again where the additional resolutions and monitor changes can be made. katy

[katy98]

[katy98@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf# File generated by XFdrake (rev 230776)Section "Extensions" Option "Composite"EndSection# File generated by XFdrake (rev 230776)# **********************************************************************# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of# this file.# **********************************************************************Section "ServerFlags" #DontZap # disable <Ctrl><Alt><BS> (server abort) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work #DontZoom # disable <Ctrl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)EndSectionSection "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype" Load "glx" # 3D layerEndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "vboxmouse" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"EndSectionSection "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Generic" ModelName "Katy" HorizSync 30-67 VertRefresh 30-60 # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616EndSectionSection "Device" Identifier "device1" VendorName "InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH" BoardName "VirtualBox virtual video card" Driver "vboxvideo" Option "DPMS"EndSectionSection "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "device1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x800" "1024x640" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsectionEndSectionSection "ServerLayout" Identifier "layout1" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" Screen "screen1"EndSection[katy98@localhost ~]$

[irvdk]

[katy98@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf# File generated by XFdrake (rev 230776)Section "Extensions" Option "Composite"EndSection# File generated by XFdrake (rev 230776)# **********************************************************************# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of# this file.# **********************************************************************Section "ServerFlags" #DontZap # disable <Ctrl><Alt><BS> (server abort) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work #DontZoom # disable <Ctrl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)EndSectionSection "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype" Load "glx" # 3D layerEndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "vboxmouse" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"EndSectionSection "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Generic" ModelName "Katy" HorizSync 30-67 VertRefresh 30-60 # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616EndSectionSection "Device" Identifier "device1" VendorName "InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH" BoardName "VirtualBox virtual video card" Driver "vboxvideo" Option "DPMS"EndSectionSection "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "device1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x800" "1024x640" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsectionEndSectionSection "ServerLayout" Identifier "layout1" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" Screen "screen1"EndSection[katy98@localhost ~]$

KrandrtrayFile:///home/irv/Desktop/ScottSection "Screen" Iden...DefaultColorDepth 16Section "Screen" Iden...x240" EndSubsectionSection "Screen" Iden...ubsection EndSection# File generated by X..."screen1" EndsectionSomeone who understands these things is going to have to figure this one out.Thanks a lot Katy, but is Greek to me. I am going to leave it to the powers to be to figure this one out!!

[Bruno]

Right . . . .I will have a look at the two xorg.conf files later today as I come back from work and see if we can combine the info.This part I do not understand:

KrandrtrayFile:///home/irv/Desktop/ScottSection "Screen" Iden...DefaultColorDepth 16Section "Screen" Iden...x240" EndSubsectionSection "Screen" Iden...ubsection EndSection# File generated by X..."screen1" EndsectionSomeone who understands these things is going to have to figure this one out.!

. . . how come those lines are abbreviated ? And how come there is a file "/home/irv/Desktop/Scott" ?When starting krandrtray from a terminal, doesn't there appear a blue icon next to the clock ? And clicking on it isn't there a pop-up that lists possible resolutions ? BrunoPS: Is Katy using a laptop too ?

[Urmas]

Right . . . .I will have a look at the two xorg.conf files later today as I come back from work and see if we can combine the info.

I'll provide the perspiration and let you do the inspiration bit. Here's Katy's (Mandy, 1280x800) relevant info:Section "Monitor"Identifier "monitor1"VendorName "Generic"ModelName "Katy"HorizSync 30-67VertRefresh 30-60# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsyncModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsyncModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616EndSectionSection "Device"Identifier "device1"VendorName "InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH"BoardName "VirtualBox virtual video card"Driver "vboxvideo"Option "DPMS"EndSectionSection "Screen"Identifier "screen1"Device "device1"Monitor "monitor1"DefaultColorDepth 24Subsection "Display"Depth 8Modes "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"EndSubsectionSubsection "Display"Depth 15Modes "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"EndSubsectionSubsection "Display"Depth 16Modes "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"EndSubsectionSubsection "Display"Depth 24Modes "1280x800" "1024x640" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"EndSubsectionEndSectionSection "ServerLayout"Identifier "layout1"InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"Screen "screen1"EndSectionAnd Irv (PCLos, the aim is 1440x900):Section "Monitor"Identifier "monitor1"VendorName "Generic"ModelName "1024x768 @ 60 Hz"HorizSync 31.5-90VertRefresh 50-70# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsyncModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsyncModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616EndSectionSection "Device"Identifier "device1"Driver "vesa"Option "DPMS"EndSectionSection "Screen"Identifier "screen1"Device "device1"Monitor "monitor1"DefaultColorDepth 24Subsection "Display"Depth 8Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"EndSubsectionSubsection "Display"Depth 15Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"EndSubsectionSubsection "Display"Depth 16Modes "1280x768" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"EndSubsectionSubsection "Display"Depth 24Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"EndSubsectionEndSectionSection "ServerLayout"Identifier "layout1"InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"# InputDevice "Mouse2" "SendCoreEvents"Screen "screen1"EndSection

[irvdk]

Right . . . .I will have a look at the two xorg.conf files later today as I come back from work and see if we can combine the info.This part I do not understand:. . . how come those lines are abbreviated ? And how come there is a file "/home/irv/Desktop/Scott" ?When starting krandrtray from a terminal, doesn't there appear a blue icon next to the clock ? And clicking on it isn't there a pop-up that lists possible resolutions ? BrunoPS: Is Katy using a laptop too ?

Wow, this is really getting confusing.I was to first make sure that you understand that I am NOT using a laptop. The thread started off that way and then we switched gears when I install PCLos 2007.Bruno,As far as the Krandrtray:I guess I did the wrong thing. I redid it and now have it corrected. It reads:SCREEN SIZEX 1024x768 800x600 640x480REFRESH RATEX 56 HzSo I guess we go from here. I have to go out, but will be back around 6-6:30 your time.Later!

[Bruno]

Okay Irv . . . . so you are currently on 1024x768 resolution . . which is not bad.Now, before we start making changes I want you to know how to restore the backup we made, logged in as root you type: "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-BACKUP /etc/X11/xorg.conf" . . so remember that one ;)Here are the changes I would like you to make . . . but do ONE change at a time, reboot and see if you still get X . . . then do the next change and reboot . . . etc. etc. etc.I would like you to start at the bottom of the file and work your way up. Okay ??

# File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)# **********************************************************************# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of# this file.# **********************************************************************Section "Files" # font server independent of the X server to render fonts. FontPath "unix/:-1" # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"EndSectionSection "Extensions" Option "Composite"EndSectionSection "ServerFlags" #DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort)#DontZoom # disable <Ctrl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work #DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)EndSectionSection "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "vboxmouse" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse2" Driver "evdev" Option "product" "0x0006" Option "vendor" "0x0002" Option "HWheelRelativeAxisButtons" "7 6"EndSectionSection "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Generic" ModelName "Ivrdk" HorizSync 31.5-90 VertRefresh 50-70 # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616EndSectionSection "Device" Identifier "device1" VendorName "InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH" BoardName "VirtualBox virtual video card" Driver "vboxvideo" Option "DPMS"EndSectionSection "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "device1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x768" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x800" "1024x768" "1024x640" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsectionEndSectionSection "ServerLayout" Identifier "layout1" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" # InputDevice "Mouse2" "SendCoreEvents" Screen "screen1"EndSection

** if you wish you can also add the additional resolutions at "Depth 16"Also . . . if you ever are out of X and you still want to make changes logged in as root you can type:"mcedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"That will open the file in an editor suited for the "black screen" . . you have to use the arrow-keys and the 'F"-keys . . . you will see at the bottom what F-key is associated with what function ( like F2 = save and F10 = close )Good luck my friend . . . hope we manage to find where it exactly goes wrong ( that is why start at the bottom and work your way up one change at a time ) Bruno

[irvdk]

I did as instructed and it continues to be the same way. Nothing has changed.Please note that I did make 1 small change to the Depth 24 section. Instead of 1280x800 I made it 1280x768.Here is the new file!I have been playing with the size in the Control Center which shows it set at 1280x768. the screen resolution at 800x600 works with black frame. the 1024x640 does not work the height is wrong. So I say that we need something like 1100x500 and it would work. Is that possible?? How??# File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)# **********************************************************************# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of# this file.# **********************************************************************Section "Files" # font server independent of the X server to render fonts. FontPath "unix/:-1" # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"EndSectionSection "Extensions" Option "Composite"EndSectionSection "ServerFlags" #DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work #DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)EndSectionSection "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "vboxmouse" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse2" Driver "evdev" Option "product" "0x0006" Option "vendor" "0x0002" Option "HWheelRelativeAxisButtons" "7 6"EndSectionSection "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Generic" ModelName "Irv" HorizSync 31.5-90 VertRefresh 50-70 # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616EndSectionSection "Device" Identifier "device1" VendorName "InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH" BoardName "VirtualBox virtual video card" Driver "vboxvideo" Option "DPMS"EndSectionSection "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "device1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "832X624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" "832X624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x768" "1024x768" "832X624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x768" "1024x768" "1024x640" "832X624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsectionEndSectionSection "ServerLayout" Identifier "layout1" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" #InputDevice "Mouse2" "SendCoreEvents" Screen "screen1"EndSection

Edited December 5, 2007 by irvdk

[Bruno]

Instead of 1280x800 I made it 1280x768.

Well . . . since the 1280x800 did work for Katy . . . I would like you to add that resolution as well . . . just add it before the 1280x768 . . . it is very well possible that some resolutions are supported by the vboxvideo driver and others are not . . . Bruno

[irvdk]

Well . . . since the 1280x800 did work for Katy . . . I would like you to add that resolution as well . . . just add it before the 1280x768 . . . it is very well possible that some resolutions are supported by the vboxvideo driver and others are not . . . Bruno

I made the change as you asked and also set it to 1280x800 in the control center. Nothing changed.

[katy98]

Just curious Irv, after you made the 2 changes, did you save then exit totally virtual box, restart it and then after desktop loads, use Ctrl+F for full screen? katy

I made the change as you asked and also set it to 1280x800 in the control center. Nothing changed.

[irvdk]

Just curious Irv, after you made the 2 changes, did you save then exit totally virtual box, restart it and then after desktop loads, use Ctrl+F for full screen? katy

Hi Katy,Yes I did. It's way to big for the screen although the screen is 19" wide screen. The way it is right now it would have to have a resolution of maybe 1100x500 to fit the screen.There is just something that is not correct. I am afraid to play with it to much as I might screw something up and then make it harder for Bruno and Urmas. Thanks for your halp!

[Bruno]

There is just something that is not correct. I am afraid to play with it to much as I might screw something up and then make it harder for Bruno and Urmas.

Since now you have a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf-BACKUP file there is little you can do to permanently damage your install . . . . just restore the backup if X blows up in your face. ;)Anyway, strange that Ctrl+F does give you a fullscreen that is out of proportions . . . I am puzzled. Bruno

[irvdk]

Since now you have a working /etc/X11/xorg.conf-BACKUP file there is little you can do to permanently damage your install . . . . just restore the backup if X blows up in your face. ;)Anyway, strange that Ctrl+F does give you a fullscreen that is out of proportions . . . I am puzzled. Bruno

Well I am not sure what to do next. I am going to play around with it a little and see what happens. I will report back.

[Bruno]

Well, Irv . . . from what I understand you currently have VirtualBox running at 1024x768 . . . and that is already a whole lot better then the screenshots you showed before where you either only saw the top or the bottom of the PCLos desktop.Myself I like to run VirtualBox in a 1024x768 window on a 1280x1024 desktop, simply because I can have 2 of those windows open on the same desktop and so have 3 linux distros running at the same time ( one as host and two as guest ). Bruno

[irvdk]

Well, Irv . . . from what I understand you currently have VirtualBox running at 1024x768 . . . and that is already a whole lot better then the screenshots you showed before where you either only saw the top or the bottom of the PCLos desktop.Myself I like to run VirtualBox in a 1024x768 window on a 1280x1024 desktop, simply because I can have 2 of those windows open on the same desktop and so have 3 linux distros running at the same time ( one as host and two as guest ). Bruno

Well Bruno to tell you the truth it is the same as it was in this photo:http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k180/irvdk/Img_0003.jpgso nothing is really any different. Something is wrong, but what I don't know. And to top it off it's the same in Mandriva.

[irvdk]

Well Bruno to tell you the truth it is the same as it was in this photo:http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k180/irvdk/Img_0003.jpgso nothing is really any different. Something is wrong, but what I don't know. And to top it off it's the same in Mandriva.

Well after playing with it, selecting 800x600 and then hitting Control F this is what I have. It seems to me that the max vertical size is about 600. The horizonal size is way off as look at all the screen real estate I am losing.http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k180/irvdk/Capture-8.jpg

[Urmas]

Right Ctrl button + F ? Funny... it should take ove the entire screen... nothing "Vista related should be visible. Also, the "bottom right VirtualBox controls" should not be in sight. That's the idea of FULL SCREEN MODE. Can you try again... RIGHT Ctrl+F !!About that screenshot ( http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k180/irvdk/Img_0003.jpg ): if your Vista is set to 1440x900... it looks like it's running 800*600 and "spreading" it to 1024x768.What I'd try is to go to PCLos' control center and setup the monitor and resolution in there. And since there is constant trouble with smaller resolutions, I's set both monitor and resolution to 1440x900. HEY PCLos users! Guide Irv to the right place... I can't "do" PCLos right now.

[Bruno]

Well after playing with it, selecting 800x600 and then hitting Control F this is what I have. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k180/irvdk/Capture-8.jpg

This does not look like full screen at all . . . . . But for a "normal" ( not full-screen ) window it does not really surprise me and I would find it acceptable . . . . ( you only loose the wide-screen-extra-space )I keep wondering what would happen if you don't run PCLos virtually but simply boot from the CD and run it "Live" . . . . what resolution would it run at. Bruno

[cybormoron]

here's my thoughts so far if i may. i'm inclined to agree with irv that something about vista or the monitor is interfering with the pclos virtual machine. pclos works at any resolution for me so it should work for irv. i can even change resolutions from the kde control center. so if we have the correct mode lines then it has to work, right?here's pclos at 1400x1050.http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2203/pclos005gafy5.jpg1. i agree with urmas that vista looks stretched. what is vista set to? does the monitor have different mode settings for wide or normal? i don't think these are interfering with pclos though.2. in one screenshot i see windows desktop icons on top of virtualbox at the top of the screen. why are these on top of VB? i don't think this is interfering either.3. in the other screenshot with the maximized virtualbox it stops at the windows taskbar. shouldn't this be allowed to cover the windows taskbar? i think this setting is our culprit. is there a property setting that can be changed to allow application windows to cover the taskbar?4. perhaps using virtualbox full screen or maximize isn't gonna work and you'll have to live with whatever resolution it boots at.5. i would also like to see pclos running live as bruno suggests.these are just a couple of things i'd look at.we're running out of options irv, lol. only 2 options left that i can see, box the computer and monitor up and ship-it to one of us or i'll have to drive down to the steel city. lol.here's my xorg

# File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)# **********************************************************************# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of# this file.# **********************************************************************Section "Files" # font server independent of the X server to render fonts. FontPath "unix/:-1" # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"EndSectionSection "Extensions" Option "Composite"EndSectionSection "ServerFlags" #DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort) #DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not workEndSectionSection "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "vboxmouse" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse2" Driver "evdev" Option "product" "0x0006" Option "vendor" "0x0002" Option "HWheelRelativeAxisButtons" "7 6"EndSectionSection "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Generic" ModelName "1024x768 @ 60 Hz" HorizSync 31.5-48.5 VertRefresh 50-70 # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616EndSectionSection "Device" Identifier "device1" Driver "vboxvideo" Option "DPMS"EndSectionSection "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "device1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultColorDepth 16 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1366x768" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1366x768" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1366x768" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1440x900" "1400x1050" "1366x768" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsectionEndSectionSection "ServerLayout" Identifier "layout1" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" Screen "screen1"EndSection

Edited December 7, 2007 by cybormoron

[réjean]

Hi irv!I would agree with Steve and Bruno;

3. in the other screenshot with the maximized virtualbox it stops at the windows taskbar. shouldn't this be allowed to cover the windows taskbar? i think this setting is our culprit. is there a property setting that can be changed to allow application windows to cover the taskbar?4. perhaps using virtualbox full screen or maximize isn't gonna work and you'll have to live with whatever resolution it boots at.

and I would like to make one more suggestion, if I may. Why don't you download, burn and try running another distro in your Virtual Box. It could be Mandriva, Ubuntu or any other. It could even be a very small one like DSL or Puppy if you don't have high-speed internet access. If you get the same problems then we would know that Vista is the culprit. I personnaly blame Vista for everything; if it rains too much it's because of Vista. If I have to water all our gardens it's also Vista's fault. lol

[irvdk]

This does not look like full screen at all . . . . . But for a "normal" ( not full-screen ) window it does not really surprise me and I would find it acceptable . . . . ( you only loose the wide-screen-extra-space )I keep wondering what would happen if you don't run PCLos virtually but simply boot from the CD and run it "Live" . . . . what resolution would it run at. Bruno

Hi Bruno,It runs exactly the same from the live CD.

[réjean]

Then it's not Vista or your Virtual Box. I would still suggest running another distro as a live cd this time.

[irvdk]

here's my thoughts so far if i may. i'm inclined to agree with irv that something about vista or the monitor is interfering with the pclos virtual machine. pclos works at any resolution for me so it should work for irv. i can even change resolutions from the kde control center. so if we have the correct mode lines then it has to work, right?here's pclos at 1400x1050.http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2203/pclos005gafy5.jpg1. i agree with urmas that vista looks stretched. what is vista set to? does the monitor have different mode settings for wide or normal? i don't think these are interfering with pclos though.Vista is set correctly, as it has the option to go to a wide screen stance and is set to 1440x900.2. in one screenshot i see windows desktop icons on top of virtualbox at the top of the screen. why are these on top of VB? i don't think this is interfering either. Object Dock is what it is called, and I have tried shutting it down.3. in the other screenshot with the maximized virtualbox it stops at the windows taskbar. shouldn't this be allowed to cover the windows taskbar? i think this setting is our culprit. is there a property setting that can be changed to allow application windows to cover the taskbar? As we have discussed, what we are trying to do is set the screen to 1280x786 so that the Vista window is visible. This makes it very nice to go back and forth between the applications.4. perhaps using virtualbox full screen or maximize isn't gonna work and you'll have to live with whatever resolution it boots at. If that be the case I would just forget about using Linux and stay with Vista as I really like it. Linux is a learning experience for me, at 70 it allows me to keep my mind sharp and continually expand my horizons.5. i would also like to see pclos running live as bruno suggests. As I have said it is exactly the same.these are just a couple of things i'd look at.we're running out of options irv, lol. only 2 options left that i can see, box the computer and monitor up and ship-it to one of us or i'll have to drive down to the steel city. lol.I have an extra bedroom so come on down!!! here's my xorg

Then it's not Vista or your Virtual Box. I would still suggest running another distro as a live cd this time.

I have run Mandriva from a live CD. Same.

[Bruno]

Hi Bruno,It runs exactly the same from the live CD.

I think what you are saying here is that usually you boot the "installed version" of PCLos in VirtualBox . . . and when you run the "Live" version in VirtualBox you encounter the same issues. . . . Right ?The experiment I was trying to get you to do is this: Shut down the computer, put the PCLos Live CD in the CD tray ( physically, not virtually ), and next push the power button of your PC. This way you should not see Vista at all but it will go directly in PCLos.I am very curious to the sreenresolution it will boot in to. Bruno

[irvdk]

I think what you are saying here is that usually you boot the "installed version" of PCLos in VirtualBox . . . and when you run the "Live" version in VirtualBox you encounter the same issues. . . . Right ?The experiment I was trying to get you to do is this: Shut down the computer, put the PCLos Live CD in the CD tray ( physically, not virtually ), and next push the power button of your PC. This way you should not see Vista at all but it will go directly in PCLos.I am very curious to the sreenresolution it will boot in to. Bruno

After working on this all day this is what i have found out. Nothing would work above 1024x480. The minute you cross over that line the scroll bars appear. There is nothing to pick from between 1024X480 and 1027X768. So, I made my own up. I called for a 24bbp and sized it to 1024X600. It works perfectly!!# File generated by XFdrake (rev 230776)Section "Extensions" Option "Composite"EndSection# **********************************************************************# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of# this file.# **********************************************************************Section "ServerFlags" #DontZap # disable <Ctrl><Alt><BS> (server abort) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work #DontZoom # disable <Ctrl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)EndSectionSection "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype" Load "glx" # 3D layerEndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"EndSectionSection "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "vboxmouse" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"EndSectionSection "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Generic" ModelName "Flat Panel 1440x900" HorizSync 31.5-90 VertRefresh 60EndSectionSection "Device" Identifier "device1" Driver "vboxvideo" Option "DPMS"EndSectionSection "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "device1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x480" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x600" "1024x480" EndSubsectionEndSectionSection "ServerLayout" Identifier "layout1" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" Screen "screen1"EndSectionhttp://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k180/irvdk/Capture-9.jpgI don't know the cause for all of this, but it is OK now. I will await your replies.Thank You :thumbsup:PS...I just made the same change to PClos 2007 and now it works fine! Edited December 8, 2007 by irvdk

[irvdk]

I think what you are saying here is that usually you boot the "installed version" of PCLos in VirtualBox . . . and when you run the "Live" version in VirtualBox you encounter the same issues. . . . Right ?The experiment I was trying to get you to do is this: Shut down the computer, put the PCLos Live CD in the CD tray ( physically, not virtually ), and next push the power button of your PC. This way you should not see Vista at all but it will go directly in PCLos.I am very curious to the sreenresolution it will boot in to. Bruno

Bruno,All of the distro's Mephis, Mandriva and PCLinox all work fine out off the live CD. So I guest that kind of narrows it down to VirtualBox. What do you guys think??

[Bruno]

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k180/irvdk/Capture-9.jpgI don't know the cause for all of this, but it is OK now. PS...I just made the same change to PClos 2007 and now it works fine!

Woooooow . . . congrats, this indeed looks very okay, well done Irv

All of the distro's Mephis, Mandriva and PCLinox all work fine out off the live CD.

Glad all those distros get your screen-resolution right out of the box when you run them from CD . . . . that is very reassuring !

So I guest that kind of narrows it down to VirtualBox. What do you guys think??

Yep, I think that in this case blaming Virtualbox is fair. :wacko: Bruno

[cybormoron]

well that last shot appears ok irv, so i say congratulations on getting it to work like that.