raymac46 Posted June 18 Author Posted June 18 My EndeavourOS machine is an AMD quad core with 8 GB of RAM so much more powerful. I installed Epiphany and it works great. This leads me to conclude the old Netbook has a hardware problem when it comes to Epiphany. Building Pale Moon is still a tedious process so I don't know what the result will be yet. Quote
abarbarian Posted June 18 Posted June 18 On 6/16/2024 at 6:33 PM, wa4chq said: You're only suppose to scan the headlines and pretend to have read it....lol I did that with this thread and thought it was all about aged gits chewin the cud. Then I took a proper look at it ---------------------------------- 2 Quote
raymac46 Posted June 18 Author Posted June 18 Gave up after a couple of hours trying to install Pale Moon in Arch on a decent enough old laptop. It would never be a solution on the Netbook. Quote
wa4chq Posted June 18 Posted June 18 1 hour ago, abarbarian said: I did that with this thread and thought it was all about aged gits chewin the cud. Then I took a proper look at it ---------------------------------- Aged cud is the best....IMO. 1 1 Quote
raymac46 Posted June 18 Author Posted June 18 Well, I discovered that there is a compiled package palemoon-bin in the AUR so I installed that and now I have Pale Moon Running on EndeavourOS on my Flex2-15D laptop from 2014. Total memory usage is around 1.1 GB which isn't too bad. But this laptop has 8 GB. Quote
raymac46 Posted June 18 Author Posted June 18 Back on the Netbook where I installed Pale Moon via the compiled palemoon-bin. Works well. I can log in to SNF and post. htop shows around 700 MB RAM in use. Looks like Pale Moon is a keeper. Quote
raymac46 Posted June 19 Author Posted June 19 I have also discovered a new version of Midori which also exists as a precompiled binary in the AUR.I have installed that one as well. It seems to work OK. Posting from it now. Quote
raymac46 Posted June 19 Author Posted June 19 (edited) So to summarize my experiments with light browsers on the old Toshiba netbook: Dillo - launches but looks like cr^p and can't login to sites. Net Surf - launches but no cursor and looks glitchy. Gnome Web - seg faults, unusable Falkon - works great, browser of choice. Pale Moon - had to install a precompiled build but works well. Midori Next Generation - Had to remove old browser package, install precompiled build but seems to work OK. Edited June 19 by raymac46 Quote
raymac46 Posted June 19 Author Posted June 19 So what would I use with what desktop if I wanted a lighterweight browsing experience? LXQt - Falkon for sure. Xfce - Pale Moon or Midori Cinnamon -Pale Moon Gnome - might as well try Gnome Web (Epiphany.) If that fails try Pale Moon. Quote
Hedon James Posted June 19 Posted June 19 1 hour ago, raymac46 said: So what would I use with what desktop if I wanted a lighterweight browsing experience? LXQt - Falkon for sure. Xfce - Pale Moon or Midori Cinnamon -Pale Moon Gnome - might as well try Gnome Web (Epiphany.) If that fails try Pale Moon. No word on Viper? Viper is also QT-based, and may be a viable choice for lightweight browsers using QT systems. FWIW... Quote
raymac46 Posted June 19 Author Posted June 19 (edited) Haven't tried Viper yet. I downloaded the AppImage on the old netbook, made it executable but it wouldn't launch: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libtiff.so.6: undefined symbol: jpeg12_write_raw_data, version LIBJPEG_8.0 Edited June 19 by raymac46 Quote
securitybreach Posted June 19 Posted June 19 6 hours ago, raymac46 said: Haven't tried Viper yet. I downloaded the AppImage on the old netbook, made it executable but it wouldn't launch: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libtiff.so.6: undefined symbol: jpeg12_write_raw_data, version LIBJPEG_8.0 Did you try installing the missing packages? Quote
raymac46 Posted June 19 Author Posted June 19 It would not run initially unless I installed fuse. After that I got the lookup error. I think the problem is that the app is looking for an older version of libtiff than I have installed. Viper has not been maintained since 2021. Quote
raymac46 Posted June 19 Author Posted June 19 Tried to run Viper on Debian Testing on my Thinkpad. It would launch but then it crashed and reset repeatedly - extremely unstable. I don't think it's a viable solution for me at least. Might work with Debian Stable. Quote
securitybreach Posted June 19 Posted June 19 5 minutes ago, raymac46 said: It would not run initially unless I installed fuse. After that I got the lookup error. I think the problem is that the app is looking for an older version of libtiff than I have installed. Viper has not been maintained since 2021. Ah, I refuse to ever use a snap or an appimage. I only trust packages vetted by the distros' maintainers and come from the repos. It's another reason that I try to not use many aur packages. Quote
raymac46 Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 I hear you. Viper is only available as an AppImage. No matter as there are other lightweight browsers that work OK. 1 Quote
raymac46 Posted October 21 Author Posted October 21 Just did another large upgrade to the long time Arch install on this ugly old Netbook, Had no problems because I was careful to update the archlinux-keyring before the upgrade. Quote
securitybreach Posted October 21 Posted October 21 6 minutes ago, raymac46 said: Just did another large upgrade to the long time Arch install on this ugly old Netbook, Had no problems because I was careful to update the archlinux-keyring before the upgrade. Nice, I used the new arch-install script a while back and it works great. I wouldn't suggest it to someone who hasn't installed the normal way before but it did work well. Quote
raymac46 Posted October 21 Author Posted October 21 I used the archfi and archdi scripts to install Arch and they worked pretty well. I understood the process because I had done an actual Arch install - both in a virtual machine and also on the rails. All the script does is make sure you don't forget anything as you go through the install. I installed EndeavourOS - which has a Calamares installer. It is basically Arch with a few pretty interface enhancements. Installing the Arch way is a wonderful method to learn about the basics of Linux and what does what. However, once you've done it, the install works for a long time with minimal user input, so you forget about all the steps you went through. Quote
securitybreach Posted October 21 Posted October 21 38 minutes ago, raymac46 said: However, once you've done it, the install works for a long time with minimal user input, so you forget about all the steps you went through. Well everything in tech is fluid and always changing 1 Quote
raymac46 Posted November 12 Author Posted November 12 After my futzing around with VBox, upgrading my 8-year-old Arch installation on my potato Toshiba netbook was a distinct pleasure. Everything just works. Quote
securitybreach Posted November 12 Posted November 12 7 minutes ago, raymac46 said: After my futzing around with VBox, upgrading my 8-year-old Arch installation on my potato Toshiba netbook was a distinct pleasure. Everything just works. Nice Quote
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