snminc Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) Greetings to all, I have recently replaced my Power Supply, on booting for the first time the PC went into BIOS. Have swopped aroud some cables it seems my Crucial 120GB SSD is dead. When connect to a laptop vis a USB adaptor cable Disk Manager reports the SSD as 'No Media' I have tried using EASEUS & Disk Recovery but neither package 'sees' the SSD. Can anyone recommend how to bring the SSD 'Back to life' or failing that how to recover the data fom a Documents Partition? Many thanks, Scott Edited October 8, 2021 by snminc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Here is a list of free ones, although I haven't used any of them myself https://recoverit.wondershare.com/free-data-recovery/ssd-recovery-software.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Actually, I was wrong. I have used TestDisk in the past but its been a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snminc Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 Many thanks, Sadly none of them can 'see' my SSD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 This is very odd. If you did not format it, the data should still be there. There are no moving parts on an SSD so its not really prone to the failures of SATA drives. Download a linux distro and boot it live to see if the drive shows up. I would think maybe the master boot record got messed up or something. Perhaps windows cannot see it but linux will be able to (had that happen dozens of times). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Check the simple things FIRST: - bad USB cable - bad USB port - power etc... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 The best way to recover data from a dead SSD is to restore your backup. If you don't have a backup, make sure you do next time. “ computer users can be divided into 2 categories: Those who have lost data ...and those who have not lost data YET ” Remember to BACKUP! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Was SpinRite tried? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 52 minutes ago, crp said: Was SpinRite tried? Spinrite may take a week to run but it is tried and true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlim Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Spinrite isn't good for ssd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpinRite#Solid_state_drives In episode 194 of the podcast Security Now! Gibson said that he could "see absolutely no possible benefit to running SpinRite on a solid-state drive" and later "SpinRite is all about mechanics and magnetics, neither of which exist, by design, in an SSD" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Absolutely WRONG! wikipedia needs to be changed. my goodness, that is from 10 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 46 minutes ago, crp said: Absolutely WRONG! wikipedia needs to be changed. my goodness, that is from 10 years ago. Exactly what is wrong about it? Here's the whole section in case you didn't read it: Quote Solid state drives Spinrite can be run and can be effective on SSDs, but running in a higher-level mode than 1 or 2 is detrimental, as it wears the SSD by writing to it unnecessarily. In episode #387 of the podcast Security Now! Gibson said "Run Level 2 because Level 1 is not permitted to fix anything" "The difference is both Level 1 and 2 are read-only, and that's the key. You don't want to run Level 4" [11] In episode 194 of the podcast Security Now! Gibson said that he could "see absolutely no possible benefit to running SpinRite on a solid-state drive" and later "SpinRite is all about mechanics and magnetics, neither of which exist, by design, in an SSD".[12] In episode 338 Gibson clarified "it is actually detrimental because [solid-state drives] don't like to be written", but also pointing out that a read-only run could be beneficial: "SpinRite's Level 1 is a read-only scan, and doing that on an SSD makes a lot of sense. Do a read-only scan of an SSD, it'll show the SSD's controller that it's got a problem reading a sector, and then it'll map that out or rewrite it in order to strengthen that sector, if possible. So that ends up being a value for SpinRite on solid-state drives."[13] Also, Gibson posted on his website that "SpinRite is seeing many successes [...] with non-spinning solid-state (thumb) drives!".[14] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 how can you quote those paragraphs and then ask what was wrong? even taking the paragraph you use which is about 5 years out of date, level 2 is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlim Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Sorry but I see nothing wrong with a 10 year old post because these are the facts Stable release6.0 / June 7, 2004; 17 years ago. The program has not be changed in 17 years. Steve Gibson's site shows a copyright of 2020. https://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm scroll to the bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Having benefited from MUCH via Steve Gibson's site back in my Widoze daze, I would tend to believe that data on his site is kept up-to-date and is still applicable. Just my opinion, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Well there is not a lot to change anyway as it runs in FreeDos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 On 10/29/2021 at 6:39 AM, zlim said: Sorry but I see nothing wrong with a 10 year old post because these are the facts Stable release6.0 / June 7, 2004; 17 years ago. The program has not be changed in 17 years. Steve Gibson's site shows a copyright of 2020. https://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm scroll to the bottom Your loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, crp said: Your loss. Maybe you could explain what you are talking about. There are 2 people now who don't understand what you are saying is wrong in the Wikipedia article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Hello, You can check with a commercial data recovery service like DriverSavers, Gillware, or Kroll Ontrack about the costs involved in recovering the data. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluttermagnet Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I have been tempted, off and on, to buy a copy of SpinRite over the years. I've known about it for something like 2 decades now. Still tempted today. What do you guys think- is SpinRite still a useful tool to have around? Clutter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Cluttermagnet said: I have been tempted, off and on, to buy a copy of SpinRite over the years. I've known about it for something like 2 decades now. Still tempted today. What do you guys think- is SpinRite still a useful tool to have around? Clutter Depends on how many mech drives you have. If you have a faulty drive with important data on it then $89 might be a worthwhile spend. If you have a lot of drives and want to do regular maintenance on them then $89 might be a good spend. Quote How often should SpinRite be run for preventive maintenance? This is mostly a matter of personal taste. For example, how often should you backup your data? However, a general rule of thumb would be that SpinRite should be run every two or three months. Running it more often provides greater safety at the expense of the time consumed. Running it less often provides more opportunity for new problems to go undetected until they become severe. Once every few months should be often enough to catch and detect any early trouble. How does SpinRite compare to ScanDisk? SpinRite and ScanDisk are entirely different types of products. ScanDisk replaces the original DOS CHKDSK command, which verified the logical file system structure of the hard drive (the newer CHKDSK command no longer performs that function). Microsoft created ScanDisk because people were switching off their computers without first exiting Windows. This resulted in corruption of the file system. ScanDisk can also perform a read-only "scan" of a drive's surface to check for any unreadable sectors which it will then remove from use by the file system. However, ScanDisk does not perform data recovery, maintenance, or surface analysis of any kind. Unlike SpinRite, it does no data pattern testing, defect scrubbing, data relocation or unreadable sector repair and recovery. ScanDisk was never designed to perform those functions. If your hard drives are acting up, the best thing to do is to run SpinRite first (a quick scan at level 2 is fine) to check for and repair any obvious read-trouble on the drive. Then, knowing that the "lower-levels" of the drive are okay, run ScanDisk to check and verify the "higher-levels" of the drive's file system. SpinRite is the best and only tool for long-term low-level data integrity maintenance, and ScanDisk is a useful free tool for checking the operating system's file system at a higher level. https://www.grc.com/sr/faq.htm If you have some spare loot buying a large ssd or several small cheap ones and making backups might be a better route. This is a little over $89 but I bet you could get something even cheaper if you hunted around. Samsung - 870 QVO 1TB SATA 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive Single Unit Version - $104.99Your price for this item is $104.99 Save $15 Was $119.99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Hello, I would consider it a tool of last resort, only to be used when other data recovery software or backups are not an option and have failed, and a commercial data recovery service is not an option. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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