daveydoom 30 Posted February 2, 2016 Did anyone here read about this?: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/announcement/frivolous-lawsuits/help-bleepingcomputer-defend-freedom-of-speech/ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
V.T. Eric Layton 6,125 Posted February 2, 2016 I have no funds to spare, but I shared on my G+ stream. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
securitybreach 10,245 Posted February 2, 2016 You know I have heard the name for a long time but I have been to bleepingcomputer before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete! 178 Posted February 2, 2016 IMHO: This is an attack on anyone who would like to speak freely, or express an opinion, on a message board. Regardless of whether or not "Spyhunter" is (or was) malware, this attempt to silence honest opinion is reason enough for me to avoid Enigma Software products. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
securitybreach 10,245 Posted February 2, 2016 IMHO: This is an attack on anyone who would like to speak freely, or express an opinion, on a message board. Regardless of whether or not "Spyhunter" is (or was) malware, this attempt to silence honest opinion is reason enough for me to avoid Enigma Software products. Yes, it is!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmur 355 Posted February 2, 2016 IMHO: This is an attack on anyone who would like to speak freely, or express an opinion, on a message board. Regardless of whether or not "Spyhunter" is (or was) malware, this attempt to silence honest opinion is reason enough for me to avoid Enigma Software products. Yes, it is!! Enigma may subscribe to the old adage "any publicity is good publicity". But in this case, I think they are wrong. Anyone who reads this story is likely to be "computer savvy" and will be teed off enough to not only avoid Enigma's products themselves but also warn others to avoid them. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corrine 2,529 Posted February 2, 2016 As I've posted elsewhere, I read the PDF and cannot figure out what in heaven's name the announcement about staff promotions has to do with their idiot lawsuit? "Staff" on forums does not in any way mean employment. Particularly through the long-standing malware removal training program, members of BC have gotten to know developers of other software programs -- particularly Emsisoft and Malwarebytes. So, of course, having become "friends", members of the security community do tend to recommend the products that our friends are involved with. Taking it a step further, people coming to the forums for help are very often not in a position to walk in the door of a computer tech shop, likely facing a minimum $75-100 fee just to have the computer analyzed. Besides which, most computer tech shops don't "clean" the computer. They do a wipe and reinstall. So, for these people without a lot of funds, why would we recommend a software program that will only analyze for free but requires a purchased license to remove (Note: I am making no mention of the ability/quality of said licensed software)? The programs recommended in the forums all have free-for-personal-use versions that will both analyze and remove. As to the bit about affiliates, I cannot begin to guess the hosting costs for a site as large as BC with the high volume of traffic that it receives. Of course funds are needed to keep the site running. Granted, I use ad-blocking software so don't see the ads. That said, how much money does ESG think those ads and affiliate links bring in? One can only hope that it comes close to paying the hosting costs, domain renewal fee and forum software license. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pete! 178 Posted February 2, 2016 Corrine: The purpose of a SLAPP suit isn't necessarily to win a case in court. It's purpose is to intimidate and silence critics, with overwhelming legal expenses. Even in states with anti SLAPP suit laws, by the time the judge throws the case out, the defendant may have incurred considerable expense. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebrke 1,234 Posted February 2, 2016 I have no funds to spare, but I shared on my G+ stream. I have no audience to share with, but made a small contribution. Together, we did what we could. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlim 1,077 Posted February 2, 2016 I contributed. I want to read honest reviews. If the company, Enigma, doesn't like the reviews posted at lots of sites. IMPROVE THE PROGRAM! Even MajorGeeks tells people to not install it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corrine 2,529 Posted February 3, 2016 Corrine: The purpose of a SLAPP suit isn't necessarily to win a case in court. It's purpose is to intimidate and silence critics, with overwhelming legal expenses. Even in states with anti SLAPP suit laws, by the time the judge throws the case out, the defendant may have incurred considerable expense. As I understand it, NY is not a SLAPP state. Beyond that, it seems that Grinler and the rest of the security community are certainly not being intimidated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Temmu 1,929 Posted February 10, 2016 it's practicing law in a lawless society (globally lawless at that) i.e., it is only wrong to do what is right, and the politically correct things are all the things detrimental to society. bleepingcomputer is a good site that hosts good anti-malware software, in addition to opinions that irk the makers of bad software, apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
securitybreach 10,245 Posted February 10, 2016 It's a nice site but I wonder why they offer these linux downloads as those are in any distro's package manager: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/linux/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Temmu 1,929 Posted February 11, 2016 Possibly the same reason http://sectools.org/ does, to draw attention to a useful tool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
securitybreach 10,245 Posted February 11, 2016 Possibly the same reason http://sectools.org/ does, to draw attention to a useful tool. Well those make sense as they're security 'tools' but the ones bleepingcomputer has are kind of random: htop, kdirstat, clementine, virtualbox and eagle Just a thought... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunrat 2,028 Posted February 11, 2016 In most other countries, if you sue someone and lose, you can be ordered to pay the other party's costs. This prevents a lot of frivolous cases like this from ever reaching court. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmur 355 Posted February 12, 2016 Possibly the same reason http://sectools.org/ does, to draw attention to a useful tool. Well those make sense as they're security 'tools' but the ones bleepingcomputer has are kind of random: htop, kdirstat, clementine, virtualbox and eagle Just a thought... There are probably several apps that can be used for what each of those listed on BC do, and those are the one they recommend for each job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilBambi 3,279 Posted February 20, 2016 Court is always a crapshoot. However, this is a frivolous lawsuit if I ever saw one. Tragic that BleepingComputer is going through this crap. I hope to help if/when I can. I really appreciate BC very much! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Temmu 1,929 Posted February 26, 2016 although this is not new news, here's this from the register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/25/bleeping_computer_asked_to_bleep_out_post/ If Bleeping Computer kowtows to Enigma Software's demands, then reviews, recommendation and advice from Bleeping Computer instantly become suspect. How can a reader know if information was added or subtracted through legal coercion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilBambi 3,279 Posted February 29, 2016 This is why the advertising guild or cartel these days is a big farce! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corrine 2,529 Posted January 29, 2017 Forgive me for bumping this old thread. However, I learned something the other night that resulted in getting quietman7's permission to publish this article: Support quietman7 in Enigma vs Bleeping Computer Lawsuit. If you aren't in a position to help (although every little bit adds up), please share in Twitter, Facebook or other social media sites. Thanks! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
securitybreach 10,245 Posted January 29, 2017 Thanks, will do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quietman7 3 Posted January 30, 2017 I want to thank everyone for their support...it certainly is appreciated. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
securitybreach 10,245 Posted January 30, 2017 I want to thank everyone for their support...it certainly is appreciated. Glad to do so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
