ibe98765 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 The new software is only quoting one level back.See Link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arena2045 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 This is not a bug, but a feature that we are trying out.Remember when users would quote multiple people and that post would become un-editable (ie turned into HTML code)? This stops this from happening by removing any quoted text when quoting a post that contains quotes.Don't think about it... it's complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_P Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I've encounter that problem, but only rarely. Does this mean the new software upgrade didn't resolve the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibe98765 Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 This is not a bug, but a feature that we are trying out.Remember when users would quote multiple people and that post would become un-editable (ie turned into HTML code)? This stops this from happening by removing any quoted text when quoting a post that contains quotes.Don't think about it... it's complicated. Yes, but it causes essential information to be lost and makes the discussion difficult to follow. I experienced this first-hand on another board and it was quite a pain. What many did then was to manually copy, paste and put quote tags around prior comments. And of course, doing this would invalidate your "band-aid" solution to the real problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRD Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 If this occurs on another board, then it would seem to be a problem with the software, not the installation. Have you tried reporting your suggestions to Invision Power Services. As I'm sure you know, those who actually wrote the software are in a better position to handle any bugs you think may exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paracelsus Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Personally...I find it irritating to see the "latest post" in a Thread be an endless iteration... box within box... of almost the ENTIRE Thread being quoted.If one reads the Thread, then there is no loss of continuity. If one is too pressed for time to read and reference the Thread??...Leave it go until a calmer moment. Additionally...There is often only a small portion of a previous post that one may actually wish to address. In which case, having the entire post quoted is a waste of space. OTOH...If there are several points one wishes to address in a reply, each point is better quoted singularly, with a reply/comment immediately following.In either case...There is no way getting around the need to manually code several things individually. And as has been pointed out by NRD and Arena2045...IPB's inability to properly handle multiple quote coding is the real problem.This is, as always, my take on the situation. And I respect the opposing views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibe98765 Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRD Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Great, Have a solution?Its either a mass of unreadable quotes inside quotes (my opinion) with the possibility that the forum will turn the quotes into raw html or having to manually quote more than 1 reply. If you have a third option, I'd be interested in hearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arena2045 Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Just make sure not to: quote a quote, and you will be fine.You can have multiple quotes in your posts; you just can't have a quote that contains a quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibe98765 Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 Great, Have a solution?Its either a mass of unreadable quotes inside quotes (my opinion) with the possibility that the forum will turn the quotes into raw html or having to manually quote more than 1 reply. If you have a third option, I'd be interested in hearing it.How about fix the underlying problem instead of applying "band-aids"? Or is this a case of "not my yob, mon"?Did any of TPTB here report the problem to IPB when it occurred originally? Did anyone follow up on the problem? What is the current status with IPB? And has it been demonstrated that the problem still exists in the new version and therefor ehas not been addressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paracelsus Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 This is the responsibility of any of we members that have a problem with this.TPTB, as you term it, is not an issue None of TPTB here are getting rich or famous from spending scarce... more profitably used personal time, to maintain this BB.There is FAR more to these Forums, than how the BB software functions.It is the PURPOSE for these Forums existence....Not about how the code works...Or how big a BOX the Forum Rules appear in...Or what colors are available for fonts...that is ImportantAre we here to graciously extend and receive help and advice on PC and Technology issues of import??...Or to parry & thrust over how may Angels may stand on the Head of a Pin?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRD Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 How about fix the underlying problem instead of applying "band-aids"? Or is this a case of "not my yob, mon"?So in other words you don't have a solution.As to whose Job it is, since you're the person who is expressing a problem with the board function, how about trotting over to IPS and start wading through the support forums and look for a solution instead of carping about "band aid" fixes and who isn't doing their job. Or is your time too valuable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_P Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 We really, really, really need to stop being so defensive when someone notes a problem.If someone tells you your tire is flat do you tell them to fix it? Think of things here the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Arena and others are right, let's try this for a while. We will be upgrading to 2.0 at some point, perhaps the problem will be fixed there (anyone who's working with the 2.0 release candidates know whether it is?). But I tend to agree that endless quotes within quotes are not good communication at all, but a crutch. It can drive you crazy. If you're essentially going to have multiple threads within threads, which is what multiple quotes effectively supports, then start a new thread nearby.There are times when this functionality can be useful. But it's over-used, IMO.-- ScotP.S. It is no one's responsibility or job at SFNL Forums to "fix" bugs. The IPB forum software has many bugs, as all software does. That's just the way it is. Moreover, no one helping out with SFNL Forums has any sort of job at all. Our mods and Admins are donating their time -- extremely generously -- and I'd like to see more support for what they do and fewer nit-picky complaints. It's just a forum, after all. Let's enjoy what it brings us and not look a gift horse in the mouth. End sermon.And Ed, people who complain endlessly about tiny problems need to stop doing that. It's negative. We are not trying to perfect every little operation of this forum. We take suggestions, nothing more. No promises. We do the best we can. This is an all volunteer effort, and we would get much more done without an endless stream of picky, insistent pet peeves. Post a request; leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paracelsus Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Amen, Scot!!I'm folding up my portable Pulpit now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_P Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 It is no one's responsibility or job at SFNL Forums to "fix" bugs.The problem Scot is few of us know which things are bugs, features turned off intentionally, features turned off accidently (I'm thinking a certain smilie here ), things changeable via parms, and things maintained by exits. Some things are easy to change, some are impossible to change. We really don't have any way of determining which are which.If a simple change will make the board more useful for some of the members isn't it worth noting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfProRM Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 If a simple change will make the board more useful for some of the members isn't it worth noting?A simple change may be worth "noting," but noting is where it should stop. If someone looks into it and gives an answer, that should be sufficient, it shouldn't be the START of the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Scot,Thanks so much for giving us all a place to hang out.And for speaking so well to the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoS Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 as she reapplies her lipstick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_P Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 it shouldn't be the START of the argument.I agree. People need to keep an open mind and not be so defensive all the time. As Scot said, "it's just a forum". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeber Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Since this topic's been addressed and is now becoming rude, let's move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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