V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Not sure I like the sounds of this... From Extremetech: Leaked AMD roadmap shows Excavator arriving in 2015 – and possibly the end of AMD’s big-core x86 business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Hmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Well it seems possible this will happen. I haven't seen any new AM3 series chipset in the pipeline, although now the FM2+ socket mobos are out to support the next generation of HSA chips. The "Fusion" pathway seems to be where AMD wants to go. It looks as if the old discrete CPU and GPU model will be history in a few years - for basic consumer and business desktops at least. The new Athlon II X4 chips are actually GPU dead APUs ot at least stripped down APUs. They fit the FM socket not the AM. I read somewhere that AMD did not put as much effort into boosting CPU performance in the Bulldozer line because they intend long term to offload a lot of their computing tasks onto the GPU. Even Intel hasn't really done much to rev up its CPU performance, concentrating more on die shrink, TDP, battery life. A decent Sandy Bridge processor will still work fine in most applications. Having said all this I am sure somebody will still serve the needs of the hard core gamer - long term it may be Intel as they have the market share and technology lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 PC gamers, of which there are fewer and fewer these days, won't like CPU/GPU common die processors. The technology to match discrete video card performance is a long way off, I think. Well, I'll go with that FX-6200 if I get the chance. But next time... an Intel? Blech! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Hello, It does seem the trend is towards laptops, tablets and all-in-ones (which are essentially laptops). AMD could be positioning itself to take over a larger percentage of that market. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) I suppose one could be naive and imagine that if AMD keeps pushing GPU development and holds their own with CPUs they'll have a decent APU that'll compete in most situations with discrete setups. I doubt they'll be up to TITAN performance anytime soon though. Right now a relatively modest FX-6200 and GTX 650 Ti combo will absolutely blow away the highest performance A10 around. But the A10 with a discrete card like the GTX 650 will also be an excellent performer. It's just a waste of the APU technology to do that. For general computing and watching video, the APU is just terrific. Combining an A8 APU with Linux and having the O/S on an SSD is a beautiful thing. IF SSDs come down in price such a setup would make a great all-in-one. Edited December 6, 2013 by raymac46 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 ...a relatively modest FX-6200 and GTX 650 Ti combo will absolutely blow away the highest performance A10 around. But the A10 with a discrete card like the GTX 650 will also be an excellent performer. It's just a waste of the APU technology to do that. Most definitely. Which is why my next system (after the FX one) will probably feature a top o' the line Intel CPU (8-core) with dual Nvidia graphics cards. Guess I'll need a 1500W PSU for all that, huh? Liquid nitrogen cooling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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