Cluttermagnet Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) Just wondering, since I'm temporarily back on dialup- how about some lighter weight browsers that play on Linux OS's? I remember toying with really lightweight ones in Windows back prior to 2007. Used tiny stuff like 'Off by one" and several others. I'd be very interested in hearing what sort of stuff like this you guys have played with- and felt was a 'keeper'. I guess I'm looking for utilities that do handle graphics, but perhaps selectively, say by turning them off by default and then allowing download of single graphic instances off of a given web page, one at a time. I suppose this also fits under the category 'Lightweight Distros', but I'm just trying to see if there are any lightweight browsers I can download into an obsolete, non- supported distro that I already have running (Ubuntu Dapper 6.06). I suppose I could also inhibit downloading of graphics in the installed copy of very old FF v.1.5- if I knew how. I'm going to gradually start trying some of my other boxes with Linux installed, to see if I can have any other successful dialup activations. As I remember, my batting average was abysmally low in that regard. Edited December 1, 2012 by Cluttermagnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Here is a nice list of web browsers:https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_Applications#Graphical_7 The lightweight browsers I have personally played with are Midori and Kazehakase. I would suggest checking out Midori as it is a nice lightweight browser that works very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichase Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Iron-bin is pretty lightweight as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Try Links and Lynx. They're REALLY light weight (CLI only). If it's GUI you're looking for, Midori is about the lightest, I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 You can also disable images in your GUI browser, and try settings or extensions that will disable flash (flashblock), scripts, except as needed (NoScript), etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 If you use a different or mobile UserAgent, you can also get mobile skins here at SNF and other places/ forums and sites which cuts down on the clutter of scripting, unnecessary images, etc. You can also go to the settings in forums to disable Avatars, Signatures, etc. in your personal settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tforsman Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I recommend Midori, might feel too heavy too. Then I recommend Jumanji. http://pwmt.org/projects/jumanji/ jumanji is a highly customizable and functional web browser based on the libwebkit web content engine and the gtk+ toolkit. The idea behind jumanji is a web browser that provides a minimalistic and space saving interface as well as an easy usage that mainly focuses on keyboard interaction like vimperator does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 You could always bribe us to remove our overly large sig images. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amenditman Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) I just did a test on KDE. Firefox, native gtk app vs. Rekonq, the new native KDE webkit browser. CPU Memory Shared Memory Firefox 255,000K 35,000K Rekonq 40,000K 30,000K Edited December 2, 2012 by amenditman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Rekonq looks promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluttermagnet Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) I tried downloading and extracting tarballs of midori and dillo. Tried unsuccessfully in Terminal to get midori installed. I could navigate to the extracted file OK, but things broke down from there. In particular, my Terminal would not recognize the command './waf configure' Even after I figured out I needed to sudo at that point. It was like "Configure-Huh??" I gave up at that point. Dillo's instructions were less decipherable. I didn't attempt to install that one. I think this exceeds my pay grade. Bah humbug. Edited December 3, 2012 by Cluttermagnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Why did you not try installing Midori from your package manager as it is available in most all distro's repositories? A simple sudo apt-get install midori would of installed it just fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Why did you not try installing Midori from your package manager as it is available in most all distro's repositories? A simple sudo apt-get install midori would of installed it just fine. Yes! Yes! A thousand time YES! Always use your distribution's repos FIRST! If you can't find it there, then go looking for sources and dependencies from which to build. Watch out for Dependency Heck, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Hmmm, wasn't Midori newer than Dapper? Maybe it requires a newer GTK than Dapper has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Hmmm, wasn't Midori newer than Dapper? Maybe it requires a newer GTK than Dapper has? Nope: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/dapper/+source/midori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Nevermind, you may be right.. Only way to tell for sure is for him to try to install it on Ubuntu 6.0.6 with apt-get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yep. But I would have thought Clutter would have tried that first. From what I found, it appears to be available in source only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Full integration with GTK+2/ GTK+3. Fast rendering with WebKit. Tabs, windows and session management. Private browsing and sensitive data options. User scripts and user styles support. Straightforward bookmark management and flexible Web Search. Customizable and extensible interface. Extensions such as Adblock, form history, mouse gestures or cookie management. Requirements: GLib 2.22, GTK+ 2.16, WebkitGTK+ 1.1.17, libXML2, libsoup 2.27.90, sqlite 3.0, Vala 0.14 *from Midori's website --> http://twotoasts.de/index.php/midori/ They even have a direct link for an Ubuntu download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluttermagnet Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) Why did you not try installing Midori from your package manager as it is available in most all distro's repositories? A simple sudo apt-get install midori would of installed it just fine. Think about it- I'm on dialup. My Synaptic probably hasn't been updated for several years. How long would all that take over dialup? I didn't dare try refreshing Synaptic, therefore ruled out using Synaptic. P.S. Now that I see an example of how to do this apt-get style, I will try that. That only involves using the Terminal, not Synaptic. But don't assume basic skills and remembrances which may or may not exist in my case. I asked you guys to be patient with me back in 2007 when I started trying to learn Linux. I got a lot of help, too, and became somewhat 'OK' at it. But never assume I know how to do basic things. Often I dont, guys. Sorry... I think I'm losing my memory (sometimes...) Edited December 5, 2012 by Cluttermagnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluttermagnet Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) clutter@clutter-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install midori Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package midori clutter@clutter-desktop:~$ Perhaps if I specify midori version number? Or perhaps I need to specify an exact directory address? I do have a downloaded copy on my HD, both as a tarball (I think) and as extracted into a folder. Edited December 5, 2012 by Cluttermagnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Requirements: GLib 2.22, GTK+ 2.16, WebkitGTK+ 1.1.17, libXML2, libsoup 2.27.90, sqlite 3.0, Vala 0.14 I doubt if dapper would have up-to-date versions of these dependencies. For apt-get, try this: apt-get update && apt-get -s install midori This will update apt-get's package list and simulate (-s) install so you can see how many packages will be updated and how much it will have to download. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes into dependency chaos though as many of your current packages will depend on the older versions, particularly GLib and GTK, so apt may want to update all those packages too. It won't hurt to run the command though as nothing will be downloaded or installed until you run it without the -s option. And Midori may not be available at all for dapper anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) Thanks sunrat, that is the concern I had. And because he was on dialup... It appears to be available on in source. But once Clutter gets updated as far as he can go on the system, he can at least try to use apt-get install pkgname to see if it is even there. Clutter, if you could take that computer to Betty's, then you could get it updated through synaptic and then you would have all the dependencies needed to try sudo apt-get install midori again, or just use Synaptic at that point by searching for midori in Synaptic. Personally, if I am installing a single item like that, apt-get install pkgname works so much easier. Edited December 5, 2012 by LilBambi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluttermagnet Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yep, thanks, guys. Great detail, Sunrat! Fran, I think that would be my best move, to take this box over to Betty's. I'll do whatever I can with Synaptic over there. Time permitting, I'm going to try a couple other random boxes here and see if they can manage to set up a dialup connection. In the past, that has not gone so well. It would be good to have a recent distro to play with on dialup. A lot less dependency problems, as you guys mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Sounds like a good plan, Clutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluttermagnet Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) OK I finally tried the measures above. No luck. I couldn't apt-get install midori. Same message from Terminal, it can't find it. Probably my next move is to take this old Dapper box back home and hold it in reserve as my only presently working dialup Linux distro. Then I'll try getting dialup to work with a couple other distros, but I don't like my chances, I have utterly failed at that in the past. I don't know why, BTW, as I have the requisite external dialup modem which is proven to be working, but somehow they have crippled dialup in these more modern distros- at least, made it devilishly complicated to do what used to be such a simple thing... BTW it did not look like Synaptic or apt-get update, either one, found much new to refresh in Synaptic. I think it would be safe to guess that the Dapper repositories no longer exist online. Edited December 12, 2012 by Cluttermagnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluttermagnet Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) P.S. I just had to hook my Dell 600 back up before leaving for home. Wow, what a difference! Things happen a lot faster on this, my only 'modern' platform. I don't think this thing even came with a Winmodem when Don, my old friend, originally bought it. He's been gone nearly two years now. RIP, Dear Friend. Some of your stuff soldiers on with me. You are missed... Edited December 12, 2012 by Cluttermagnet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I think it would be safe to guess that the Dapper repositories no longer exist online. This may help: http://www.warpconduit.net/2011/07/31/apt-repository-for-old-ubuntu-releases/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluttermagnet Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Wow! What a great suggestion! Thanks, Josh. I'll now drag this tower back over to Betty's and see what I can do with your 'oldies repository'. Fabulous! Meanwhile, I tried about 4 other towers tonight at home, and while messing around in Ububtu 10 Help, I was reminded that there is indeed missing software. Seems I would need to get a package called (roughly) gnome-network manager, and that would then enable a new menu item Network under Administration where I should then be able to muck about with modem settings. So in effect, there was indeed a 'missing piece of gnome', just as I suspected. Dapper has this natively, making setting up a modem, then toggling back and forth between Ethernet and dialup pretty painless. So let's see how far I get tomorrow night when I have another go at this. Edited December 12, 2012 by Cluttermagnet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Well, Dapper is old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Did you have the proper repos enabled? The IS a Debian package for Midori in the repos... http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/midori.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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