windows 8 I really like Windows 8

[Guest LilBambi]

Maybe in VirtualBox it would be worth it Eric. If someone would download it and get me a temporary key, I would do it!

[V.T. Eric Layton]

Well, like KDE, I don't do "virtual".

[lewmur]

Well, like KDE, I don't do "virtual".

That's kind of like saying "I don't do computers".

[V.T. Eric Layton]

Not really. I mean that I don't install "virtual' operating systems. If I can't install it on my hardware the old fashioned way, I don't use it. Virtual computing is like virtual sex. It leaves something to be desired.

 

NOTE: I'm just joking here. I've never used VB or Wine, but not because I really have anything against it. I just sorta' prefer to have the actual OS on a partition on one of my drives. Guess I'm just old fashioned (or maybe just old )

 

Now, about that KDE...

[crp]

Except for testing purposes, I just don't get the whole 'Virtualization' thing.

so now if one piece of hardware goes down, 2+ machines go down instead of just one.

[Guest LilBambi]

VirtualBox is great! I don't have enough hardware for all the instances of OSes that I need or want...virtual works great here!

[ross549]

Except for testing purposes, I just don't get the whole 'Virtualization' thing.

so now if one piece of hardware goes down, 2+ machines go down instead of just one.

 

Unless you are spreading virtual machines across many nodes of a giant virtual machine... the only loss would a drop in computational horsepower, but the full array of virtual machines would stay online, but at reduced capacity.

 

We're approaching Inception with this solution.....

 

Adam

[Peachy]

Maybe in VirtualBox it would be worth it Eric. If someone would download it and get me a temporary key, I would do it!

 

You don't need a license key; just activate it. Or not. You could rearm the system every 30 days up to 3 or 4 times (can't remember the exact number). I use the 90-day evaluation version in my virtual machines. I make a template and then run sysprep. I then make linked clones and I quickly get many 90-day machines.

 

Virtual machines are quite useful. I use virtual machines at home on a Xeon server running Citrix XenServer free edition. It hosts my internal Active Directory, DNS, WDS, WSUS and RADIUS servers. So instead of 4 physical servers I have one with enough resources to run the rest virtualized.

[Guest LilBambi]

That's great to know Peachy!

 

Now if someone could download it, burn it to DVD and send it to me, I could do that. Gawd, I hate having this limited cellular!

 

I do now have 14GB per month on Verizon Wireless on the Share Everything Plan...but it's still not enough to do all that much in a real computing world. And that still is about $240 plus fees and taxes per month for the MIFI, one smartphone and one feature phone. They sure do think we are all made of money.

[crp]

Unless you are spreading virtual machines across many nodes of a giant virtual machine... the only loss would a drop in computational horsepower, but the full array of virtual machines would stay online, but at reduced capacity.

 

We're approaching Inception with this solution.....

 

Adam

??? If the harddrive goes south or the MB gets a jolt, they are all kaput.

[crp]

Virtual machines are quite useful. I use virtual machines at home on a Xeon server running Citrix XenServer free edition. It hosts my internal Active Directory, DNS, WDS, WSUS and RADIUS servers. So instead of 4 physical servers I have one with enough resources to run the rest virtualized.

If the pc has enough horsepower , then why run them virtualized? Oh, wait - you are mixing various OS's? Active Directory with a msWindows server and the rest with Linux types? eh, to me it would seem worth it to run all the non AD servers on one pc and just have another pc running AD. YMMV obviously.

[Peachy]

If the pc has enough horsepower , then why run them virtualized? Oh, wait - you are mixing various OS's? Active Directory with a msWindows server and the rest with Linux types? eh, to me it would seem worth it to run all the non AD servers on one pc and just have another pc running AD. YMMV obviously.

 

See, that's the beauty of it. You build yourself the fastest machine you can afford, but I'd place memory density being more important than raw speed. Then you can build dozens upon dozens of VMs to test, play and use. They don't all have to run at the same time. It's a great learning tool because you can do all sorts of test labs. With the ability to have virtual switches in most VM products you can even create a virtual datacentre. Great for testing firewalls and network security.

[ross549]

??? If the harddrive goes south or the MB gets a jolt, they are all kaput.

 

I meant if all the physical machines were linked together in one virtual machine, and then that machine rand a bunch of individual virtual machines..... isn't this a basic clustering idea?

 

Adam

[crp]

See, that's the beauty of it. You build yourself the fastest machine you can afford, but I'd place memory density being more important than raw speed. Then you can build dozens upon dozens of VMs to test, play and use. They don't all have to run at the same time. It's a great learning tool because you can do all sorts of test labs. With the ability to have virtual switches in most VM products you can even create a virtual datacentre. Great for testing firewalls and network security.

but, but, that is what i said in the beginning of my post: "Except for testing purposes,"

And when i was looking into making backups with VM, VirtualBox said "nope"

 

I meant if all the physical machines were linked together in one virtual machine, and then that machine rand a bunch of individual virtual machines..... isn't this a basic clustering idea?

 

Adam

umm, that isn't the kind of Virtualization being talked about.

[Peachy]

but, but, that is what i said in the beginning of my post: "Except for testing purposes,"

And when i was looking into making backups with VM, VirtualBox said "nope"

 

umm, that isn't the kind of Virtualization being talked about.

 

I have Linux LiveCD that I boot up in a virtual machine to do online banking. That's the other cool thing; virtual machines facilitate booting up live distros so you don't have to tie up your main computer.

[Guest LilBambi]

I make backups of my VirtualBox files. I do it manually, but it could be done automatically with rsync or something.

[lewmur]

If the pc has enough horsepower , then why run them virtualized? Oh, wait - you are mixing various OS's? Active Directory with a msWindows server and the rest with Linux types? eh, to me it would seem worth it to run all the non AD servers on one pc and just have another pc running AD. YMMV obviously.

One point of virtual sessions is that they run *simultaneously*. You can even set it up to run *seamlessly*. In which case you can have Windows programs, such as Skype, run from an Icon on your Linux desktop and have it behave as if were any other app. With the exception that it is running in its own "sandbox" and any malware will be confined to that "sandbox". As to backup, the virtual HDD can be on any HDD in your system and you can back it up simply by making a copy of the VHDD file.