Window's XP Stand By

[Rley002]

When I put my system to sleep, eventhough it wakes up touching the keyboard's space bar, all the other keys are useless.Is that a bug with Microsoft's Internet Keyboard Pro?

[havnblast]

Standby and Hibernation in my book are bugs period. I have no use for them, cause all they do is cause more problems than they do any sort of good.

[greengeek]

It used to do it with my no name keyboard too. I don't use those "features" anymore.Joy

[Guest ComputerBob]

I agree with greengeek and havnblast. It's been a few years since I even tried to use either of those features on a desktop PC, but it seems to me that the reason I gave up on them was because they required perfect coordination of many different Windows and BIOS settings. In other words, a lot of blind trial and error with a lot of lockups, and no guarantee that those "features" would ever work correctly. I feel sorry for people who need to use them on portable computers.

[muckshifter]

Rley002,Turn ‘em all off … if you need to “rest†your computer turn the monitor off at its switch but leave the system running. Install UD and give it something useful to do Did you know leaving a TV on standby still used 60% electricity?

[Scot]

I agree with you all until Windows XP. Under XP with newer than January 2001 BIOSes, and Hibernation does work, and reliably. I use it all the time now. Even some older BIOSes work OK, but XP is mandatory.-- ScotP.S. I'm moving this thread.

[JJMan]

I use and like standby on my XP Desktop machine (circa April '02). I used to hate it because I had problems with my DSL connection being unable to re-establish itself after 'wake up', but that has since been fixed with the purchase of a Linksys Router (not the reason for the router purchase, but a nice bonus). As for the original question, the spacebar is the only key that works for me too when waking my machine. I don't have a problem with that/don't think it's a bug.

[Guest ThunderRiver]

I tend to think that hibernation and suspend are the features meant for Laptop/notebooks, not for desktop. What do you guys think? My laptop can suspend and hibernate fine.

[teacher]

Whew! What a relief! I just thought I was a little slow to understand this topic. I thought it was just me that could not get it to work right and suddenly when I tried it for the first time on XP it worked great. I wondered what I was doing different. Glad to know I am not alone.

[labyrinth]

I'm having the same problem as JJMan. My cable connection is lost after hibernation, and I'm running a DLink router. There's got to be a simple way to stop hibernation from cutting off my connection, but I certainly don't know what it is. What's the use of hibernation if you have to reboot to get back on- line? Other then that little snafu, hibernation works good with XP.

[JJMan]

Labyrinth,I have hybernation disabled so I couldn't test the loss of connection upon resume. I know my DSL connection works when resuming from Standby.

[Guest ThunderRiver]

Please note that in order for hibernation and suspend to work, your PC needs to be ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) complient.For those that tend to lose Internet connection, I suggest you to install "Internet Gateway Device Discovery and Control Client" Networking services. You can install that by going to Control Panel => Add/Remove Programs => Windows Components Wizard => Networking Services. It doesn't appear it every version of Windows, and if it doesn't, well, tough luck. I have found a way to enable it manually. It works on my Windows Xp professional though.What that service does is to automatelly locate gateway and if it detects dhcp service from a router or nat service, it would request ip address for you. Quite smart service I would say

[Scot]

I tend to think that hibernation and suspend are the features meant for Laptop/notebooks, not for desktop. What do you guys think? My laptop can suspend and hibernate fine.

I would have agreed with this statement three months ago. But then I got a much higher electricity bill in February. Suddenly, all the desktop PCs that I tend to leave on either on purpose or by accident are now set to either standby or hibernate. It's just one more way we can all cut back on power consumption. In fact, I've been meaning to write about this in the newsletter. Saving power is a good thing.-- Scot

[Stryder]

I had given up on this feature as well....until I read this thread. The last 2 days I have implemented it and have had no problems. XP does make a big improvement on this feature.

[Guest ThunderRiver]

Also, the ability to hibernate and suspend has a lot to do with your BIOS. If you can flash it, upgrade to the newest one will help.

[labyrinth]

Thank you Thunder River, I knew it was something dumb that I was just missing.....Found it installed it.

[Guest ThunderRiver]

Thank you Thunder River, I knew it was something dumb that I was just missing.....Found it installed it.

[GolfProRM]

Just curious, but how does standby affect scheduled programs (i.e. AV scans, defrag, etc.)? I noticed with Windows Task scheduler, that you can set the program to "Wake the computer to run it", but that doesn't work for programs like my MacAfee virus scan and my defrag program that have their own schedulers...

[havnblast]

I would rather buy a windmill than use those features, we gots lots of wind in ND to use.

[labyrinth]

I thought JJMan's suggestion had worked, but it didn't....What I found though was that My Zone Alarm was locking down Internet access when the screensaver turned on. I just changed that setting and now it all works just fine. Thanks for the help anyway.

[brucekrymow]

Hi, All ~Glad to be a part of this new forum! 'Stand By' would be the better option to significantly reduce startup time and save energy in our green-conscientious society.If you are a desktop user, there is simply no reason to even consider using 'Hibernation'. 'Hibernation' is for conserving battery power on a notebook and is of no use for desktop users. 'Stand by' was primarily for notebooks, but provided to be very useful for quick return from power down rather than shutting down & rebooting for desktop users. Windows saves any programs and work into RAM in 'Stand By'. 'Hibernate' mode saves them to the hard drive and is designed for notebooks and notebooks alone as a means of sucking less power from the battery, but it will take you considerably longer to get back to work. It only takes about 1 or 2 seconds to come back from 'Stand By' compared to a good 30 seconds at least or more from 'Hibernate'.If you need faster access to your computer and wish to do your part in conservation, set it to 'Stand By' mode rather than completely shutting down. 'Hibernate' is only useful if you have a notebook and you're worried about running out of juice, period. If you are using a desktop, 'Hibernate' holds no relevance for you.If you desire your system to automatically go into 'Stand by' mode at some predetermined interval, you may enable such setting under 'System standby:' on the 'Power Schemes' tab of 'Power Options'.

[badcat]

My brand new laptop running XP Home chokes and does the blue screen and reboot boogie when I take it out of standby. I thought it might be the USB mouse driver, ( because it refused to see the mouse when exiting stand by) so I left the mouse off and it still chokes and coughs up a furball. My solution was to not use stand-by when running on AC. It hadn't done this in the past so I'm wondering if related to Windows Update, I updated just a day or two ago, and now this. The laptop runs on AC most of the time, so it's not that big a problem (right now, anyway ). I'll have to see if Hibernate works any better. I tend to turn off my pcs when I'm not using them anyway, so the power saving angle doesn't really matter to me, I would like Hibernate and Stand-by to work on battery though. I guess I'll have to hit the Knowledge Base and see what they have to say.Chris

[brucekrymow]

Hi, Chris ~In your 'Power Options' > 'Power Schemes' tab > 'Settings for Portable/Laptop power scheme', what do show under 'Plugged in' & 'Running on batteries' in all categories?How about under 'Power buttons' on the 'Advanced' tab? And finally, on the 'Hibernate' tab, it is unchecked, correct?

[badcat]

Hi, Chris ~In your 'Power Options' > 'Power Schemes' tab > 'Settings for Portable/Laptop  power scheme', what do show under 'Plugged in' & 'Running on batteries' in all categories?How about under 'Power buttons' on the 'Advanced' tab? And finally, on the 'Hibernate' tab, it is unchecked, correct?

Hi Bruce, I don't use the Windows Power Scheme setting because Toshiba supplies an applet to manage the power settings (which could be the problem). I tried disabling hibernation support and it didn't make any difference. What happens is when it comes out of stand-by, the USB mouse doesn't work, and XP says a USB device is either defective or the driver is bad, (or something to that effect), then when I go to shut down, it blue screens and reboots. I tried using stand-by without the USB mouse, and same results, just no error message concerning the USB bus. I turned stand-by off in the Toshiba applet, because I don't really need it on AC anyway. It's not that big a deal, I need to check the knowledge base and check out Toshiba's site I guess. I haven't used any of the power options in the past because I usually just shut down if I'm not going be using the pc. I suspect you have a few suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them. I'm always up for learning something. Chris

[brucekrymow]

Hi, Chris ~Ok great! We might be on to something here for you. I have a Fujitsu and a Toshiba and had issues parallel to yours. I believe it is best to let Windows manage the power management and NOT the BIOS. I would gamble that a call to support (hopefully not Bangalore!) would not only confirm this, but garner you an easy walk-through to turn power control over to the OS from BIOS. Make sure you also ask to disable the power features in the 'Advanced Features' submenu of the 'Power' menu in BIOS.

[badcat]

Bruce, Thanks for the info, I'll look into that, I wondered if the Toshiba applet might be at the root of the problem. From what you're saying, it is. I'll check it out. Thanks!! Chris