striker Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Rivals mock Microsoft's free security softwareSymantec, Trend Micro diss Security Essentials as 'poor product' with no futurehttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/913...curity_software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Dave Methvin sees it from another perspective:Microsoft's Must-Have Software Releasehttp://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/a...HRSKH4ATMY32JVN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachy Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I'll be using that for XP Mode in Windows 7. Better than nothing as I don't want to pay for a license that I may only use in an OS occassionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_P Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Rivals mock Microsoft's free security softwareSymantec, Trend Micro diss Security Essentials as 'poor product' with no futureDid you really think they would say otherwise?? When MS introduced IE when Netscape had market share people said IE had no future and you know how that turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlim Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) I got my Sunbelt newsletter today (I currently run VIPRE) and several things were pointed out about MSE * MSE does NOT protect your incoming email * MSE Scan speed is SLOW * MSE does not have real-time customizable monitors * MSE does not have advanced malware behavior analysis * MSE does not have live U.S. based Tech Support or Chat For me, who never downloads email, the first item isn't necessary. The thing I wonder about is the third item. I'm not sure if this means it does not offer real time monitoring or that it is offered but you can't tweak it.As far as the last item...I rarely contact tech support or chat. I find I get better help in forums - thank you again Scot Finnie! If I have a problem, I start searching for a proper forum and read. If I can't find a solution, I'll join and ask my qiestions. Edited September 30, 2009 by zlim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrine Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I did like what Alex Eckelberry had to say at Sunbelt Blog: Thoughts on MSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Here's the thread on Wilders:http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=250425It get's interesting from page 3 about midway and onward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Follow up from PCMag's Neil J. Rubenking at Security Watch:http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/...ntials.php#more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 I'm not so sure Microsoft did their 'homework' ...http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353447,00.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Someone out of his mind... http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/44142/140/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 arstechnica says they're impressed: ConclusionAlthough MSE might not boast as many features as OneCare did, it is a lot better at what it does do. It's free, and it requires no registration, trial versions, or license renewals. It really does automatically stay up-to-date. Most core functions can be activated with a single click. It is also very lightweight. Based on what we've seen so far, we have to recommend that you at least give the product a download. Everyone currently using free antimalware software should give it a shot, and those with paid solutions should think about taking MSE for a spin before renewing subscriptions. First look: Microsoft Security Essentials impresses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrine Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) I tend to give more credence to Greg Keizer's article at ComputerWorld than PCMag: Independent tester: Security Essentials 'very good'. That said, no, I wouldn't recommend dropping a subscription software/suite for MSE. I see many logs with outdated Symantec software -- generally provided as a trial when the PC was new and then expired and not replaced. I am hoping that the availability of MSE gets protection on more computers. MSE is not in competition with Symantec, McAfee, ESET, Kaspersky, BitDefender or any other major A/V vendors. The object of MSE is to get A/V software on home computers that currently are unprotected. (What A/V software do I see most frequently in logs of infected PC's? AVG)Edit to add -- Kaspersky doesn't appear concerned: Kaspersky: Security Essentials to impact malware market Edited October 1, 2009 by Corrine Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlim Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Thanks, striker, for the link to NJ Reubenking's blog. I usually pay attention when he talks.Thanks, Corrine, for your expertise "What A/V software do I see most frequently in logs of infected PC's? AVG" because I'm about to remove VIPRE and decided to replace it with either Avast or AntiVir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yep, it would be great if all those unprotected computers running Windows out there would at least load and use MSE as a bare minimum. And yes, I think Corrine is right being MSE not in competition with Symantec, McAfee, ESET, Kaspersky, BitDefender or any other major A/V vendors.I don't care in first instance what the so called testing institutes have to tell: they're using lab conditions. Neil J.Rubenking uses real world conditions and that's what I would be after to start with. Only after that I would maybe at the third place consider the meaning of these so called testing institutes. On second place I would peruse Wilders... they have a couple of guys over there which take each and everything apart and test it from A to Z. Microsoft may be what they are but I have to give them credit for supplying at least a basic AV solution to the end user. Maybe it's in their own interest, but they kept a promise.(And no, I'm not a Microsoft friend. But I give credit where credit is due.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 ...Microsoft may be what they are but I have to give them credit for supplying at least a basic AV solution to the end user. Maybe it's in their own interest, but they kept a promise.(And no, I'm not a Microsoft friend. But I give credit where credit is due.)I doubt anyone would mistake me for a MS fan, but I agree with this. Making it simple for every Windows user to have a basic security package is much more important than MS having a superduper AV solution that few people use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 (edited) hear, hear. obviously far better than nothing, and just somewhat behind some other free offerings.It isn't a question of how good it is, it is a question of how many users can MS lure into using it. At the present time, the most effective malware are the ones which present themselves as solutions. "Microsoft has detected a virus on your computer. Click "here" to remove the virus." Of course, if you click "here," you've just infected your computer. I would dare say that 90% of malware presents itself in this manner. So, any MS solution must first address this problem. How can an unsophisticated user tell the difference between a real AV and one that pretends to be one? And do it in such a way that Grandma doesn't get fooled into clicking the wrong button?The only solution I've found is to make Grandma use Linux. Edited October 2, 2009 by lewmur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 hear, hear. obviously far better than nothing, and just somewhat behind some other free offerings.I think there are some great free offerings. Unfortunately, Grandma isn't likely to stumble upon them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 EVERYONE should have affordable health care. Oh, wait... wrong forum. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 EVERYONE should have affordable health care. Oh, wait... wrong forum. Sorry. Everyone should have a 64 Shelby Mustang. Oh, wait, wrong world. Sorry! Hey, if you are going to dream, why not dream big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Shelby Mustang? Nah... much rather have a '69 Chevy Camaro Z28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 What I would be interested in is how much of the people out there actually install MSE on their machine (-s) and use it.Secondly what the results would be after a month or so regarding what got caught on these machines and if MSE would indeed be able to clean up this garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 How to not react to a good initiative...http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-Prot...a-p/155531#A374 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 http://community.norton.com/norton/board/m...thread.id=78087http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/29/22...ck-It?art_pos=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 So, back to topic, eh Striker?Well, I'm not installing that stuff on my XP installation. Why bother. My XP is very secure. It has NO interaction with the outside world (Networking, TCP/IP, etc uninstalled). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus K Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Did you really think they would say otherwise?? When MS introduced IE when Netscape had market share people said IE had no future and you know how that turned out.I don't remember anybody saying that. Everyone knew it being free (although inferior) and now already on folks rigs would spell doom for Netscape. So many small innovative folks/companies have seen their hard work and ideas swallowed by the Borg. It is great to see how well Google has weathered the storm though. In this case, resistance is not futile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlim Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 If I had to choose between MSSE and Norton, I'd choose MSSE before Norton. The Norton bloggers may complain all they want but Norton just isn't all that good at detecting things. It is very good at slowing down computers.Hey, if you browse slower does that mean in you are in less danger of getting infected because you don't get to visit as many sites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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