Ubuntu Not Updating to Newest Version

[V.T. Eric Layton]

Split of from other thread . . . . on request

Hi EricHave a look http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03623#0 . . . . . it is a bugfix release of Dapper ( also here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233444 ) Maybe this could be interesting and who knows it could just be ( or not ) the thing to do. ( ? ) Bruno

Hiya Bruno...Yeah, Urmas had alerted me to this at my forum already today. I have a question though... if my system has been completely updated religiously since installing, wouldn't I have all those updates/bug fixes already?Anyway, I intend to use Shipit to get 4 or 5 CDs from Ubuntu. One to keep, the others to share. ;)By the way, I received Linux Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition today! YAY! I'll be catching up on my reading later this evening.

[Urmas]

I have a question though... if my system has been completely updated religiously since installing, wouldn't I have all those updates/bug fixes already?

Yes... you can check it, too:

lsb_release -a

Mine says 6.06.1

Edited August 10, 2006 by Urmas

[Bruno]

Yeah, Urmas had alerted me to this at my forum already today. I have a question though... if my system has been completely updated religiously since installing, wouldn't I have all those updates/bug fixes already?

Well, basically yes you would . . . . but then, since more people seem to have the same problem you have there could be something that has to be initiated during the install . . . . I think: you never know, it can not hurt, and your cold-booting problems are VERY uncommon and I really would like to have this resolved some way or another. Bruno

[V.T. Eric Layton]

Yes... you can check it, too:

lsb_release -a

Mine says 6.06.1

Hmm... output of that command on my system:

No LSB modules are available.Distributor ID: UbuntuDescription: Ubuntu 6.06 LTSRelease: 6.06Codename: dapper

... and I really would like to have this resolved some way or another. Bruno

Heh! ME TOO! If I were to reinstall the OS again though, wouldn't I lose all my currently installed software and configurations?

[Bruno]

If I were to reinstall the OS again though, wouldn't I lose all my currently installed software and configurations?

Yep . . . but in your case this might even be a good thing . . . . . . ( remember this only started a few days after your first install ) Bruno

[V.T. Eric Layton]

*Sigh* I'll think about it. For now though, how come my "supposedly" updated system is not showing up as Urmas' is.

[Urmas]

*Sigh* I'll think about it. For now though, how come my "supposedly" updated system is not showing up as Urmas' is.

Q: do you have this...deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates universe main restricted multiverse... in your /etc/apt/sources.list?A: probably not... put it there, do the "sudo apt-get update routine"... check again.

[V.T. Eric Layton]

Well, I added that repository and updated using apt-get, and I rebooted. However, it still shows 6.06. :(Good news though... it did fix my ****** totem that hadn't been updating for the past week or so. :)Hey! When you get a minute, send me a PM or email with your complete (minus the porn apps ) sources.list. Thanks!Anyway, I don't know why mine won't update to that version that you have. :(Later...

Edited August 11, 2006 by V.T. Eric Layton

[Frank Golden]

Well, I added that repository and updated using apt-get, and I rebooted. However, it still shows 6.06. :(Good news though... it did fix my ****** totem that hadn't been updating for the past week or so. :)Hey! When you get a minute, send me a PM or email with your complete (minus the porn apps ) sources.list. Thanks!Anyway, I don't know why mine won't update to that version that you have. :(Later...

Eric, If all you did was sudo apt-get update you didn't really change anything. Go to system>administration>update manager and run update manager.When I did mine after changing sources.list I got 83 updates. After installing updatesand rebooting I now have same as Urmas "Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS". Edited August 11, 2006 by Frank Golden

[V.T. Eric Layton]

I did that too, but I'll go check again...Your system is up-to-date! :(Just for informational purposes, here's my source.list:

## dapper main restricteddeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted## dapper-updates main restricteddeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted## dapper-updates universe main restricted multiversedeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe main restricted multiverse## dapper-security main restricteddeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted## dapper-security universedeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe## dapper universe main restricteddeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe main restricted# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe## dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse## canonical dapper-commercial main deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main## automatixdeb http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt dapper main

Edited August 11, 2006 by V.T. Eric Layton

[Frank Golden]

I did that too, but I'll go check again...Your system is up-to-date! :(Just for informational purposes, here's my source.list:

Hi Eric, Check out my sources.list

deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiversedeb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free# The above lines were generated automatically by EasyUbuntu 3.02 Release# The rest of your sources.list follows# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricteddeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the## distribution.deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'## repository.## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security## team.# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universedeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiversedeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiversedeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricteddeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricteddeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universedeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universedeb http://extindt01.indt.org/VoIP/apt dapper maindeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates universe main restricted multiverse

[V.T. Eric Layton]

Hmm... you only have a few private repositories that I don't have. I edited my sources.list in the above posting. I dunno...

[Urmas]

Hey! When you get a minute, send me a PM or email with your complete (minus the porn apps ) sources.list.

What? You don't want "deb http://archive.canonical.com/fallenmadonnaswithbigboobies dapper-commercial main"? Anyway... my sources.list is a mess... a working mess, but a mess nevertheless (looky... a poem!).I've posted it in the Cabin... pretty much how it is now... I've added the "Ubuntu Commercial Repos"... that's it.EDIT: You could try to install with the "alternate" CD (6.06.1). It's "text based", but very easy to use (Breezy didn't have "Desktop CD" at all)... see:

If you are installing from the Desktop CD on a system that already has one or more RAID arrays or LVM volume groups set up, you must disable the arrays (sudo /etc/init.d/mdadm stop; sudo mdadm --stop --scan) and volume groups (sudo vgchange -a n) before starting the installer.

And:

The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Ubuntu. It provides for the following situations:* creating pre-configured OEM systems;* setting up automated deployments;* upgrading from older installations without network access;* LVM and/or RAID partitioning;* installing GRUB to a location other than the Master Boot Record;* installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM.

Also: next time you install, why don't you create a separate /home partition in Ubuntu? Edited August 11, 2006 by Urmas

[Bruno]

Also: next time you install, why don't you create a separate /home partition in Ubuntu?

That is some excellent advise ! . . . You always need a separate /home partition for your main distro . . . that way you can keep your mail, bookmarks, documents, downloads and preferences when you are upgrading and/or re-installing. Bruno

[V.T. Eric Layton]

That is some excellent advise ! . . . You always need a separate /home partition for your main distro . . . that way you can keep your mail, bookmarks, documents, downloads and preferences when you are upgrading and/or re-installing. Bruno

Split threads... OK, that'll work too! Thanks, Bruno! :)To continue:OK, anyway...Just a little while ago, I followed the advice given by Ubuntu-Demon at the Ubuntu forums in THIS post. It had no effect. When I use this command: $sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard ubuntu-desktop, the output tells me that the newest are already installed on my system. Yet, this command: lsb_release -a shows v6.06, not v6.06.1.Myeh... whaddya' gonna' do? Oh, and about installing the /home directory on a separate partition, I have my system set up that way already:*click for bigger picHere's a question: Do I have to have my source repositories enabled to get this update? I read somewhere that I shouldn't need source packages unless I planned on doing my own compiling (see above for a copy of my source.list). Edited August 11, 2006 by V.T. Eric Layton

[Bruno]

Split threads... OK, that'll work too! Thanks, Bruno!

You're welcome

Oh, and about installing the /home directory on a separate partition, I have my system set up that way already

Great . . . good thinking !

Here's a question: Do I have to have my source repositories enabled to get this update? I read somewhere that I shouldn't need source packages unless I planned on doing my own compiling (see above for a copy of my source.list).

Source packages will not be installed unless you explicitly ask for it :0 . . . so no worries, and just leave those lines in the /etc/apt/sorces.list Bruno

[V.T. Eric Layton]

OK, then my sources.list is fine the way it is, right?

[Bruno]

Sorry I did no check line for line, but if it has the same entries as the one Urmas posted I see no reason why you should not get exactly the same updates he does. Bruno

[steel]

2 days i also reinstalled Ubuntu, i only had the 5.10 cd and when check my version this is what i get

 lsb_release -aDistributor ID: UbuntuDescription:	Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTSRelease:		6.06Codename:	   dapper

i also used this site to double check i had everything okvery simple if you run into problemsalso am using source.list generator

[V.T. Eric Layton]

Well, phooey! I'll play around with this some more later. Thanks for the replies, folks!~Eric

[Frank Golden]

Well, phooey! I'll play around with this some more later. Thanks for the replies, folks!~Eric

Eric, Just looked at Steel's link for sources.list generator. Try generating a new sources.list.Either backup you original or rename it and try. Or substitue mine or Urmie's. Urmie has a lot of overseas repos.

[V.T. Eric Layton]

I followed Ubuntu_Demon's tutorial precisely this time, including using the clean sources.list he links to in his tutorial. Still didn't work... HERE is my post in that thread over there showing the output of the commands.I dunno... *shrugging*Using $ uname -a, I get this output:Linux ericsbane02 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/LinuxWhat does the "PREEMPT..." part mean?

Edited August 11, 2006 by V.T. Eric Layton

[Frank Golden]

I followed Ubuntu_Demon's tutorial precisely this time, including using the clean sources.list he links to in his tutorial. Still didn't work... HERE is my post in that thread over there showing the output of the commands.I dunno... *shrugging*Using $ uname -a, I get this output:Linux ericsbane02 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/LinuxWhat does the "PREEMPT..." part mean?

Eric, When you finally "bite the bullet" (.45 Colt or .44 S&W Special) and reinstall,try the 6.06.1 D/L. What with the problems with bootup and failure to update, this willprobably be your best bet. As you add new software take it easy and keep notes. Rebootor coldboot frequently looking for the old issues. Hopefully you just got a badlymessed up install and the next one will be the charm.I discovered just how easy it is to mess up my Ubuntu yesterday. After changing mysources.list to include the repo that Urmie provided I uninstalled and reinstalledTapiocaui (voip program that connects to Google Talk) to fix a minor issue. Unbeknownst to me the uninstall removed a folder "dbus-1" in /usr/local/shares/ and didn't replace iton reinstall. When I next rebooted x crashed with an error message about /usr/local/shares/dbus-1/services not existing. Not wanting to mess around I justrestored to an earlier image with partimage. I can reproduce the problem if I wantto mess around with fixing it without resorting to image restore. Might do it to tryto learn more about the nuts and bolts of Ubuntu. I did save a copy of the "dbus-1"on my Linuxshared partition. Replacing it in /usr/local/shares after reinstallingTapioca stops the boot up problem, but leads to other problems like sound issues.Weird Huh.I would be lost without partimage.

[V.T. Eric Layton]

Not too weird. I had a crashed bootup the other day that removed my Dbus-1 also. Fortunately, I had a saved backup of that directory. :)I have about 100 rds of .45 Colt available. I don't have any .44 S&W though.

[Frank Golden]

Not too weird. I had a crashed bootup the other day that removed my Dbus-1 also. Fortunately, I had a saved backup of that directory. :)I have about 100 rds of .45 Colt available. I don't have any .44 S&W though.

See my Avatar. 3.5" sheriffs model SAA.45 Colt/.45 ACPOld west high tech"God made men, Sam Colt made 'em equal" Edited August 12, 2006 by Frank Golden

[steel]

Eric, ok this post was bothering me a bit cos i didnt why you couldnt get to the next level till i checked how you were doing it and now i know why your system is broken here is why looking at your post againthe first step is good

vtel57@ericsbane02:~$ sudo apt-get update

the second step you made

vtel57@ericsbane02:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEXTREMELY IMPORTANT:

Enter the command exactly as above, so the dist-upgrade step will run only if the update step is successful. If the first step fails but you still attempt to run the second step, you will probably end up with a corrupted system. . Make sure you type dist-upgrade rather than upgrade , because upgrade will totally hose your machine and render it completely unbootable. This is because a normal upgrade won´t upgrade packages with uninstalled dependencies, meaning your system will end up half Breezy and half Dapper

And change every occurrence of "breezy" to "dapper"; if you have a CD-ROM line in your file, then remove it. Your sources.list should look something like this, now:

edit your source.list

## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted  ## The source packages (only needed to recompile existing packages) #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted  ## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse  ## The source packages (only needed to recompile existing packages) #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse

and then..

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

so you were 1/2 way there... when updating your system to the next level dont do apt-get especially with the new source.list cos you will break your box badly!!!!