Bruno Posted March 29, 2005 Posted March 29, 2005 Nope not reboot yet . . show me: # ls -al /etc/kde/kdm/ :"> Bruno Quote
rpiz Posted March 29, 2005 Author Posted March 29, 2005 Here we are:[root@localhost rp]# ls -al /etc/kde/kdm/total 92drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 29 15:12 ./drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Dec 7 10:59 ../-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 347 Oct 4 07:10 backgroundrc-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18692 Dec 7 10:55 kdmrc-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18692 Mar 29 15:12 kdmrc-OLD-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1056 Oct 4 07:10 README-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3538 Sep 3 2004 Xaccess-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 281 Oct 4 07:10 Xreset*-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4292 Sep 3 2004 Xresources-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1017 Oct 4 07:10 Xservers-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1827 Oct 4 07:10 Xsession*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 160 Oct 4 07:10 Xsetup*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 491 Oct 4 07:10 Xstartup*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 285 Oct 4 07:10 Xwilling* Quote
rpiz Posted March 29, 2005 Author Posted March 29, 2005 Here we go:[root@localhost rp]# ls -al /usr/share/config/kdmtotal 92drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 29 15:12 ./drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Dec 7 10:59 ../-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 347 Oct 4 07:10 backgroundrc-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18692 Dec 7 10:55 kdmrc-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18692 Mar 29 15:12 kdmrc-OLD-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1056 Oct 4 07:10 README-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3538 Sep 3 2004 Xaccess-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 281 Oct 4 07:10 Xreset*-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4292 Sep 3 2004 Xresources-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1017 Oct 4 07:10 Xservers-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1827 Oct 4 07:10 Xsession*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 160 Oct 4 07:10 Xsetup*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 491 Oct 4 07:10 Xstartup*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 285 Oct 4 07:10 Xwilling* Quote
Bruno Posted March 29, 2005 Posted March 29, 2005 Very strange ., . it looks like the script from the last updates you did get did not "take" . . . I am sending you a file to your yahoo email account . . . as soon as you get it copy it in its place with # cp /home/rp/kdmrc /etc/kde/kdm/ and let it overwrite the old file . . . then have the restore option ( below) ready if a reboot fails :"> Now, imagine that after this you can not get into X . . . . press Esc at lilo . . and type the menuentry you want to boot and add a space and a 3 . . . then you will boot in level 3 . . . then log in as root and reverse our action from above:# cp  /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc-OLD  /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc# reboot And start the "normal" way . . Bruno Quote
rpiz Posted March 29, 2005 Author Posted March 29, 2005 Bruno...I did a 'save as' for the file that you had sent; but I got the following after doing the 'cp' command?[root@localhost rp]# cp /home/rp/kdmrc /etc/kde/kdm/cp: cannot stat `/home/rp/kdmrc': No such file or directoryIt seems that it didn't save the file in '/home/rp/kdmrc' for some reason? Quote
Bruno Posted March 29, 2005 Posted March 29, 2005 Try to save it again . . . and look closely where it puts it ( maybe /home/rp/Documents ? or /home/rp/Desktop ? ) . . use another browser then FF :"> ( because FF does not show you where it downloads it to ) Bruno Quote
rpiz Posted March 29, 2005 Author Posted March 29, 2005 Bruno..Ok. I have the file saved and then did the 'cp' command. Now I should go and reboot. At what point during the reboot do I do the 'esc'?And afterwards I would enter 'KDE 3'? Am I on the right track?The reason I had problems with the file is that 'Kget' kept crashing? I had to reload 'Kget'then I was able to save the file. Quote
Bruno Posted March 29, 2005 Posted March 29, 2005 Just do a "normal" reboot . . . . only if that fails you do the "rescue" operation with Esc as soon as you see the Lilo screen.:"> Bruno Quote
rpiz Posted March 29, 2005 Author Posted March 29, 2005 Bruno...I did the reboot and 'gnome' came up as before. I then changed it to 'KDE' and logged off/logged onand then did a reboot but the result was the same. I again have to change the 'gnome' to 'kde' at the session screen. Quote
Bruno Posted March 29, 2005 Posted March 29, 2005 This is driving us two crazy !! . . . . . did it maybe make a new /home/rp/.desktop ?? . . Would XDM work better now we actually removed Gnome from /etc/X11/wmsession.d ?? Those are the last 2 questions I have . . . after that I give up ( for today . . maybe I will have another idea tomorrow ):"> BrunoNOTE: If we ever want to restore the 02GNOME we renamed in /etc/X11/wmsession.d . . . . this is the command: # mv /etc/X11/wmsession.d/OLD-02GNOME /etc/X11/wmsession.d/02GNOME Quote
rpiz Posted March 29, 2005 Author Posted March 29, 2005 Bruno...I went back in and changed the display manager to 'XDM' rebooted and after entering 'rp' andthe password, kde came up fine. I then re-entered MCC and changed display manager back toMDKKDM and then rebooted; but the same result appeared. Gnome appeared and then I had tochange it to 'kde' to logon. I'll see you tomorrow. Quote
Bruno Posted March 29, 2005 Posted March 29, 2005 So XDM works okay now ???? . . .Well at least some progress !!:"> BrunoPS: Does "genkdmconf --help" as root give any output ? Quote
Bruno Posted March 30, 2005 Posted March 30, 2005 Hi RpizA new day . . new chances . . . . I was thinking: I can send you the complete "/etc/kde/kdm" directory . . . it is only 36 kB . . . . . and maybe that will fix it ( or even make a bigger mess, but if we back up the current /etc/kde/kdm first we can always restore the "original" one . . . . . ) Bruno Quote
rpiz Posted March 31, 2005 Author Posted March 31, 2005 Hi Bruno;I am not sure? Is the inconvenience of changing the session login from 'Gnome' to 'Kde' worthcreating, possibly, a bigger mess. We may try this if MDK 10.0 isn't lunched overall and we canreverse whatever changes are attempted? What do you think? Quote
Bruno Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Hi RpizCome on . . . live dangerously, and let us give it a swing ! :PNo seriously, the risk is not that big and if we do it "together" we make a backup of the present derectory first and will always be able to restore to the point where it is at this moment. Bruno* LOL . . . I know I am terrible, I never can leave things alone until they are "perfect" . . :'( Quote
rpiz Posted March 31, 2005 Author Posted March 31, 2005 Hi Bruno;Ok Partner, you think that we should go for it? Keep in mind that I have added KDE 3.3 viayou instructions in the past, and other than that everything is MDK 10.1 with updates.It still seems strange that '/etc/kde/kdm' file would not take after updates, or in fact get messed upalong the way?? But regardless, you still think we should go for it? Quote
Bruno Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Oh yes . . I am all for adventure . . . . . and if we make the correct backup first noting really drastic can happen . . . . . . I just want you to print out the "rescue-instructions" I will be giving you for if things don't go as expected.With those 2 security measures I feel safe enough to take responsibility :)Give me a sec to send you the .tar.gz and write the instructions . . . :DB) Bruno Quote
Bruno Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Okay . . you must have the package by now . . . so here are the instructions:Rightclick on the kdm.tar.gz I did send you and choose "Actions" --> "Extract Here" . . you will see a new directory in /home/rp called kdm $ su< password ># cp -r /etc/kde/kdm /etc/kde/OLD-kdm# rm -rf /etc/kde/kdm# cp -r /home/rp/kdm /etc/kde/kdm# ls -al /etc/kde/kdm I want to see the output of that last command before you reboot !!!! Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue RescueTHIS PART IS ONLY FOR IF THINGS GO WRONG AT THE REBOOTAt lilo screen do not press "Enter" on selection but press "Esc" . . . you will get a black screen where you see the menu entries . . . and a cursor where you can type.Type the name of the distro you want to boot ( as displayed above ) and add a space and a "3"Your system will boot into level 3 . . where you will get a prompt . . . log in as "root" ( not "su" ) and give the next command: # rm -rf /etc/kde/kdm# cp -r /etc/kde/OLD-kdm /etc/kde/kdm# reboot Yous system will reboot and you can now start lilo the normal way and log in the normal way.Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Bruno Quote
rpiz Posted March 31, 2005 Author Posted March 31, 2005 Hi Bruno;Here we go:[root@localhost rp]# ls -al /etc/kde/kdmtotal 76drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 31 13:56 ./drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Mar 31 13:56 ../-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 347 Mar 31 13:56 backgroundrc-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1459 Mar 31 13:56 kdmrc-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18703 Mar 31 13:56 kdmrc.rpmnew-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1013 Mar 31 13:56 README-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3538 Mar 31 13:56 Xaccess-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 281 Mar 31 13:56 Xreset*-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4291 Mar 31 13:56 Xresources-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1021 Mar 31 13:56 Xservers-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1039 Mar 31 13:56 Xsession*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 160 Mar 31 13:56 Xsetup*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 491 Mar 31 13:56 Xstartup*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 285 Mar 31 13:56 Xwilling* Quote
Bruno Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 That looks good . . . but I just see we might need another step: # cp -r /usr/share/config/kdm /usr/share/config/OLD-kdm# rm -rf /usr/share/config/kdm# cp -r /home/rp/kdm /usr/share/config/kdm# ls -al /usr/share/config/kdm You will get a revised "rescue" as well . . . . but first show me the output of the last command Bruno Quote
rpiz Posted March 31, 2005 Author Posted March 31, 2005 Bruno...Ok! Here is the latest result:[root@localhost rp]# ls -al /usr/share/config/kdmtotal 76drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 31 14:03 ./drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Mar 31 14:03 ../-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 347 Mar 31 14:03 backgroundrc-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1459 Mar 31 14:03 kdmrc-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18703 Mar 31 14:03 kdmrc.rpmnew-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1013 Mar 31 14:03 README-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3538 Mar 31 14:03 Xaccess-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 281 Mar 31 14:03 Xreset*-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4291 Mar 31 14:03 Xresources-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1021 Mar 31 14:03 Xservers-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1039 Mar 31 14:03 Xsession*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 160 Mar 31 14:03 Xsetup*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 491 Mar 31 14:03 Xstartup*-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 285 Mar 31 14:03 Xwilling* Quote
Bruno Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Here is the revised rescueRescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue RescueTHIS PART IS ONLY FOR IF THINGS GO WRONG AT THE REBOOTAt lilo screen do not press "Enter" on selection but press "Esc" . . . you will get a black screen where you see the menu entries . . . and a cursor where you can type.Type the name of the distro you want to boot ( as displayed above ) and add a space and a "3"Your system will boot into level 3 . . where you will get a prompt . . . log in as "root" ( not "su" ) and give the next command: # rm -rf /etc/kde/kdm# cp -r /etc/kde/OLD-kdm /etc/kde/kdm# rm -rf /usr/share/config/kdm# cp -r /usr/share/config/OLD-kdm /usr/share/config/kdm# reboot Your system will reboot and you can now start lilo the normal way and log in the normal way.Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Rescue Bruno Quote
rpiz Posted March 31, 2005 Author Posted March 31, 2005 OK! I have the 'Rescue' instructions printed and I am ready to reboot.Keep your fingers crossed and pray that everything goes well. Quote
Bruno Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Go for it my friend ! . . . Crossing fingers ! Bruno Quote
rpiz Posted March 31, 2005 Author Posted March 31, 2005 Bruno...Good news. We didn't crash. Bad news. We still have the same situation. I again have to change'Gnome' to 'kde'. Quote
Bruno Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Noooo !!! . . After all this trouble . . . still the same situation ???I think we should gracefully accept our defeat . . . . . . and keep changing Gnome to KDE . . . :"> Bruno Quote
rpiz Posted March 31, 2005 Author Posted March 31, 2005 Bruno...At this juncture, I agree with you and we will look forward to MDK 10.2 for a solution.Thanks for taking the time to help solve this problem. :"> Quote
Bruno Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 You are very welcome my friend . . . . !And yes 10.2 ( or "Limited Edition 2005" as the new name will be ) is the way forward :"> Bruno Quote
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