daveydoom Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Did anyone here read about this?: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/announcement/frivolous-lawsuits/help-bleepingcomputer-defend-freedom-of-speech/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have no funds to spare, but I shared on my G+ stream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 You know I have heard the name for a long time but I have been to bleepingcomputer before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete! Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 IMHO: This is an attack on anyone who would like to speak freely, or express an opinion, on a message board. Regardless of whether or not "Spyhunter" is (or was) malware, this attempt to silence honest opinion is reason enough for me to avoid Enigma Software products. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 IMHO: This is an attack on anyone who would like to speak freely, or express an opinion, on a message board. Regardless of whether or not "Spyhunter" is (or was) malware, this attempt to silence honest opinion is reason enough for me to avoid Enigma Software products. Yes, it is!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 IMHO: This is an attack on anyone who would like to speak freely, or express an opinion, on a message board. Regardless of whether or not "Spyhunter" is (or was) malware, this attempt to silence honest opinion is reason enough for me to avoid Enigma Software products. Yes, it is!! Enigma may subscribe to the old adage "any publicity is good publicity". But in this case, I think they are wrong. Anyone who reads this story is likely to be "computer savvy" and will be teed off enough to not only avoid Enigma's products themselves but also warn others to avoid them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrine Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 As I've posted elsewhere, I read the PDF and cannot figure out what in heaven's name the announcement about staff promotions has to do with their idiot lawsuit? "Staff" on forums does not in any way mean employment. Particularly through the long-standing malware removal training program, members of BC have gotten to know developers of other software programs -- particularly Emsisoft and Malwarebytes. So, of course, having become "friends", members of the security community do tend to recommend the products that our friends are involved with. Taking it a step further, people coming to the forums for help are very often not in a position to walk in the door of a computer tech shop, likely facing a minimum $75-100 fee just to have the computer analyzed. Besides which, most computer tech shops don't "clean" the computer. They do a wipe and reinstall. So, for these people without a lot of funds, why would we recommend a software program that will only analyze for free but requires a purchased license to remove (Note: I am making no mention of the ability/quality of said licensed software)? The programs recommended in the forums all have free-for-personal-use versions that will both analyze and remove. As to the bit about affiliates, I cannot begin to guess the hosting costs for a site as large as BC with the high volume of traffic that it receives. Of course funds are needed to keep the site running. Granted, I use ad-blocking software so don't see the ads. That said, how much money does ESG think those ads and affiliate links bring in? One can only hope that it comes close to paying the hosting costs, domain renewal fee and forum software license. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete! Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Corrine: The purpose of a SLAPP suit isn't necessarily to win a case in court. It's purpose is to intimidate and silence critics, with overwhelming legal expenses. Even in states with anti SLAPP suit laws, by the time the judge throws the case out, the defendant may have incurred considerable expense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrke Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have no funds to spare, but I shared on my G+ stream. I have no audience to share with, but made a small contribution. Together, we did what we could. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlim Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I contributed. I want to read honest reviews. If the company, Enigma, doesn't like the reviews posted at lots of sites. IMPROVE THE PROGRAM! Even MajorGeeks tells people to not install it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrine Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Corrine: The purpose of a SLAPP suit isn't necessarily to win a case in court. It's purpose is to intimidate and silence critics, with overwhelming legal expenses. Even in states with anti SLAPP suit laws, by the time the judge throws the case out, the defendant may have incurred considerable expense. As I understand it, NY is not a SLAPP state. Beyond that, it seems that Grinler and the rest of the security community are certainly not being intimidated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's a nice site but I wonder why they offer these linux downloads as those are in any distro's package manager: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/linux/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Possibly the same reason http://sectools.org/ does, to draw attention to a useful tool. Well those make sense as they're security 'tools' but the ones bleepingcomputer has are kind of random: htop, kdirstat, clementine, virtualbox and eagle Just a thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 In most other countries, if you sue someone and lose, you can be ordered to pay the other party's costs. This prevents a lot of frivolous cases like this from ever reaching court. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Possibly the same reason http://sectools.org/ does, to draw attention to a useful tool. Well those make sense as they're security 'tools' but the ones bleepingcomputer has are kind of random: htop, kdirstat, clementine, virtualbox and eagle Just a thought... There are probably several apps that can be used for what each of those listed on BC do, and those are the one they recommend for each job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Court is always a crapshoot. However, this is a frivolous lawsuit if I ever saw one. Tragic that BleepingComputer is going through this crap. I hope to help if/when I can. I really appreciate BC very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 This is why the advertising guild or cartel these days is a big farce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrine Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Forgive me for bumping this old thread. However, I learned something the other night that resulted in getting quietman7's permission to publish this article: Support quietman7 in Enigma vs Bleeping Computer Lawsuit. If you aren't in a position to help (although every little bit adds up), please share in Twitter, Facebook or other social media sites. Thanks! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Thanks, will do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietman7 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I want to thank everyone for their support...it certainly is appreciated. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I want to thank everyone for their support...it certainly is appreciated. Glad to do so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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