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Good morning all.....  I think I brought up Alpine last year.  I was trying it on my Raspberry Pi.  At the time, I don't think anyone here was using Alpine full time...or maybe I didn't see a reply from an Alpine user.   I wonder if maybe somebody here is using it now?  The reason I ask is because for the life of me, I can't get a desktop!  I can in VM, but not after installing the iso to the micro SD card.  (...is it possible to copy the working Alpine from VM to a SD card?) I've found several YT vids on setting up Alpine's desktop but it ain't working for me.  It boots to the terminal just fine....I'm using a Rasperry Pi4 and I've tried the latest Alpine iso and also a few of the earlier versions.  Right now I'm enjoying Tmux with the screen split into thirds.  The top is sporting 'asciiquarium' and the bottom two have 'htop' and 'mc'.  Life is good here in southeast Virginia...😆  Anyway, if someone is using Alpine w/ a desktop, I may need some help.  Thanks!  Have a great weekend!

 

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securitybreach

Never even heard of alpine OS before but here is their guide for setting it up on RPI https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

 

Specifically, this section: Linux Kernel Graphics Modes

 



By default system configuration will use legacy video driver: this driver has some limitations and is lacking support.
It is recommended to enable Linux DRM-KMS driver by adding the following to usercfg.txt:

# Enable DRM VC4 V3D driver dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d max_framebuffers=2 # Don't have the firmware create an initial video= setting in cmdline.txt. # Use the kernel's default instead. disable_fw_kms_setup=1

Note: This overlay disables legacy video options.

Install the Mesa drivers (Pi4 and Pi5):

apk add mesa-dri-gallium

Then reboot:

lbu_commit -d; reboot

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wa4chq
53 minutes ago, securitybreach said:

Never even heard of alpine OS before but here is their guide for setting it up on RPI https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

 

Specifically, this section: Linux Kernel Graphics Modes

 

 

 

Hey SB....You have heard about Alpine cuz you commented on my Alpine posts last year...lol.  I've been to the wiki and thought I followed it....I'll give it another try.  Let me find another sd card and see what happens.....

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I just found a spare card and I had install the usercfg.txt to the boot file.  But I had:

dtoverlay=vc4-fkms-v3d
arm_boost=1
disable_overscan=1

I'm gonna try the other suggestions.  I do know none of the sites I went too for Alpine on Pi mentioned installing the Mesa drivers...giving it a try.

ciao
 

 

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securitybreach

I dont recall that but I did used to use Alpine email client years ago.

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securitybreach
4 hours ago, wa4chq said:

I just found a spare card and I had install the usercfg.txt to the boot file.  But I had:

dtoverlay=vc4-fkms-v3d
arm_boost=1
disable_overscan=1

I'm gonna try the other suggestions.  I do know none of the sites I went too for Alpine on Pi mentioned installing the Mesa drivers...giving it a try.

ciao
 

 

 

Well and that is also from their wiki so it should work if someone documented and nobody said it wasn't right. ;)

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wa4chq
3 hours ago, securitybreach said:

I dont recall that but I did used to use Alpine email client years ago.

When I first started using Linux, I used Pine for email as well as Mutt.

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wa4chq
3 hours ago, securitybreach said:

 

Well and that is also from their wiki so it should work if someone documented and nobody said it wasn't right. ;)

yeah....of course it's right...lol

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wa4chq
10 hours ago, securitybreach said:

So you good now?

Nope....still not getting a desktop.  I'm gonna give it a break and try something else.  If I need a desktop when using the RPi4, I'll plug the RPi sd card in. 

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 Well if it helps any, I always found the desktop very laggy on RPIs. I usually just start ssh and remote into them to do anything.

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abarbarian
3 hours ago, securitybreach said:

I always found the desktop very laggy on RPIs

 

I never found that when I used Window Maker with Arch on a Pi. Mind you it makes sense as it has such low overheads unlike say Gnome or some such. :harhar:

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I was referring to even the official distro and environment, lxde I think

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wa4chq
12 hours ago, abarbarian said:

 

I never found that when I used Window Maker with Arch on a Pi. Mind you it makes sense as it has such low overheads unlike say Gnome or some such. :harhar:

I remember a few years back seeing on the official RPi site, downloads for other OS's besides raspian.  I don't see them listed anymore on their software site.  But I'm looking at this site now that shows how to install arch on a Pi

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7 hours ago, wa4chq said:

But I'm looking at this site now that shows how to install arch on a Pi

 

Well its a fork of Archlinux for the ARM processor. They rebuild most of the packages for ARM but Archlinux only supports the x86_64 processor. 90% of the wiki will still be useful since Archlinux uses mostly vanilla upstream sources for the packaging. It's why its useful on really most distros.

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Afterward, just follow the wiki part. Most all packages will be available and other things will be the same except for the repos that it pulls packages from.

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abarbarian
10 hours ago, wa4chq said:

I remember a few years back seeing on the official RPi site, downloads for other OS's besides raspian.  I don't see them listed anymore on their software site.  But I'm looking at this site now that shows how to install arch on a Pi

 

It was a lot snappier with Arch as opposed to the official os and it was just as reliable as the ordinary Arch. Combination of Arch and Window Maker used a whole heap less ram too. 😋

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Well....I finally got Arch booting from RPi.  I un-commented a few links on the mirrorlists, saved/sync'd  and even rebooted but I getting all errors.  lol

...um, where's my raspian SD card???

 

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OK...but here is where I went for them.  I just picked a few at random.  I think my pic above reflects another mirrorlist site.  None worked.  They looked pretty current to me.

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I was thinking maybe the problem was because I wasn't connecting to the internet....but pinging google.com had results.  I reckon I'll start all over.....but not right now...lol

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Hedon James
On 5/11/2024 at 1:57 PM, securitybreach said:

I was referring to even the official distro and environment, lxde I think

Yep, a customized version of LXDE specifically for the pi hardware.  If I remember correctly, they called it Pixel, but it was definitely LXDE.  For a resource constrained machine, such as the Pis, a DE makes very little sense.  Should probably stick with WMs like Openbox, Fluxbox, PekWM, JWM, IceWM, and yes....WindowMaker!  FWIW...

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1 hour ago, Hedon James said:

Yep, a customized version of LXDE specifically for the pi hardware.  If I remember correctly, they called it Pixel, but it was definitely LXDE.  For a resource constrained machine, such as the Pis, a DE makes very little sense.  Should probably stick with WMs like Openbox, Fluxbox, PekWM, JWM, IceWM, and yes....WindowMaker!  FWIW...

 

Or i3 ;)

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