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I just installed the latest Siduction to my Hard drive. This is the first time using it. Along long time ago I used another distro that was based on sid called sidux I believe. I will probably need a little help from anyone in the forum who uses Siduction. I have not used KDE for many years only Gnome and Cinnamon. I am not very good with the CLI, so if I get in trouble will be calling on the forum for help.

Mel

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siduction is great, I've used it as my main OS for about 18 months now. You do need to use CLI for a few things, especially updates and also installing drivers. Make sure to always close your X and drop to runlevel 3 before doing system upgrades, and only do dist-upgrade. The siduction manual is fairly comprehensive and covers lots of things like this in easy steps.

Being based on sid, there are a lot of regular updates, sometimes 400MB in a week. You can leave it longer but it's best not to wait too long. I usually run dist-upgrade weekly. This means there is always lots of Shiny New Stuff! B)

It's very stable for a system based on "unstable". I think I've only had two upgrade problems, both related to Nvidia driver/kernel mismatch. One was easy to fix and the other had an upgraded fix in the repo within a day or two. For this reason it's always good to keep your previous working kernel when you upgrade to a new one. And there is "kernel-remover" to uninstall older ones.

Feel free to ask any questions here, I'm happy to help. And have a merry siduction! (note they do spell it with a small "s") :thumbsup:

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. Make sure to always close your X and drop to runlevel 3 before doing system upgrades, and only do dist-upgrade. keep your previous working kernel when you upgrade to a new one. And there is "kernel-remover" to uninstall older ones.

Feel free to ask any questions here, I'm happy to help. And have a merry siduction! (note they do spell it with a small "s") :thumbsup:

So far I like it and it is fast. I did not know that I had to drop to run level 3 before upgrade. I did a apt-get upgrade and there were over 900 files. Lucky I have a cable connection with good speed. I found out That sid does not have synaptic in the repo So I have been using apt-get and aptitude. Guess I will have to learn more commands to do what I want. So far no problems other than finding out where things are.

Thanks for the advice and help.

Mel

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I'm not surprised there were so many upgrade packages. The latest install media (Firestarter) is pretty old now so probably everything was upgraded; it is rolling release! It is recommended to always do dist-upgrade, never just upgrade. And always check the forum Upgrade Warnings to make sure it is safe. There was a glitch just recently where LibreOffice would be totally removed because of a dependency error. In such cases you usually just need to postpone a day or two (or sometimes an hour or two) and it will be fixed in the repo. If dist-upgrade wants to remove lots of packages, cancel and wait!

Check the manual for upgrade procedure - http://manual.siduct...htm#apt-upgrade , particularly this bit:

dist-upgrade - The Steps

 

NEVER EVER do a dist-upgrade nor upgrade whilst in X

Always check Current Warnings on the siduction main web site. The warnings are there for a reason due to the very nature of unstable (Debian sid), which also updates 4 times per day.

Log out of KDE.

Go to Textmode by doing Ctrl+Alt+F1

logon as root,

and then type:

init 3

apt-get update

apt-get dist-upgrade

apt-get clean

init 5 && exit

 

NEVER DIST-UPGRADE [or UPGRADE] with adept or synaptic:

If you do not go to init 3, well tough for you, you have been warned!

I usually reboot instead of init 5.

 

Synaptic is available. Use it for package searches and installs but never upgrades.

roger@brain:~$ apt-cache policy synaptic
synaptic:
Installed: 0.80.4
Candidate: 0.80.4
Version table:
*** 0.80.4 0
 500 http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

I have it installed, but find I use apt-cache policy, apt-cache search, and apt-get install for most things anyway.

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Thanks Sunrat

The above info is very helpful. Guess I was lucky when I did a Upgrade the first time. I am sure I will have lots of questions for you.

Thanks again

Mel

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Sunrat here is where I got a list of the non free repos for siduction. I went to the siduction forum and clicked on pakages This is a portion of what is in there.

Mel

Repositories

 

Please use our mirrors listed on http://siduction.org. They should provide a better user experience then our main repository. This repository will be down sometimes and we do not care about a 24/7 availability, especially at release time. Our mirrors are updated in different intervals between once per hour and once per day. So depending on the mirror, you might have a slight delay.

 

base (amd64 / i386)

 

 

Please add these lines to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/siduction.list or create it containing these lines:

deb http://packages.siduction.org/base unstable main contrib non-free

deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/base unstable main contrib non-free

 

extra (amd64 / i386)

 

 

Please add these lines to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/siduction.list or create the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/extra.list containing these lines:

deb http://packages.siduction.org/extra unstable main contrib non-free

deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/extra unstable main contrib non-free

 

user (amd64 / i386)

 

 

Please add these lines to /etc/apt/sources.list or create the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/user.list containing these lines:

deb http://packages.siduction.org/user unstable main contrib non-free

deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/user unstable main contrib non-free

 

fixes (amd64 / i386)

 

 

Please add these lines to /etc/apt/sources.list or create the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/siduction.list containing these lines:

deb http://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable main contrib non-free

deb-src http://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable main contrib non-free

experimental (amd64 / i386)

 

Please add these lines to /etc/apt/sources.list or create the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/experimental.list containing these lines:

deb http://packages.siduction.org/experimental unstable main contrib non-free

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There are a lot of optional repos listed on that page. I just posted a question at siduction forum to try to get a definitive answer on which ones are essential. Stay tuned! I am sunrat at that forum too so you can find the topic anyway if I don't get back here soon.

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Here's the official word:

fixes may contain non-free and contrib in some cases (prop. drivers) so it is recommend, that you use fixes main contrib non-free, if you use non-free repos. The other siduction repos (except user and the nearly deprecated experimental) should only contain main.

So all you need is:

deb http://packages.siduction.org/base unstable main
deb http://packages.siduction.org/extra unstable main
deb http://packages.siduction.org/fixes unstable main contrib non-free

deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext unstable main

kdenext is optional, but some find it better than Debian unstable as it may contains fixes that have not made it there yet, or even to upstream KDE occasionally. It is mantained by Santa, a very active siduction and KDE developer.

deb-src is only needed if you are going to compile packages from source.

 

So it's more simple than it first appears, once you tunnel through the plethora of confusion (I learned a bit here too). Happy sailing siductioning! :thumbsup: B)

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