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abarbarian

https://aur.archlinu...es.php?ID=56207

 

http://translate.goo...X0R4zZZCBNnS7Pw

 

The thing is Arch is not the easiest ride if you are not a geek. So what if you are adventurous and not a fully fledged geekspert and you want to play with Arch.

You may need a little help to explore this fascinating os. An that is where PacmanXG comes in. It is a gui for pacman and yaourt. Yes yes I know gui's are for wimps and not real geeksperts but your basic adventurer finds them helpful. I tried out pacmanXG and in the main it works very well. There are a few things that do not work at all. One of the biggest drawbacks I can see to the program is that there seems to be no way to alter the program, ie: no config files to tweak. However the use of the program is straightforward and as you use the program you get to see exactly what is going on. When you click a button you see the commands used and get output almost as if you were using a terminal. This allows you to perform actions easily and learn at the same time.

All in all for someone not overly familiar with all the esoterikness of the command line and new to Arch I think this would be a very useful tool.

One aspect of the program which is very useful, hmm maybe useful, is that it allows you to see all the programs available for installation as a list and also split into groups such as, games (is that really useful). With information about the program displayed in tabs one of which shows where all the various parts of the program are located, most handy.

I think the program is well worth a quick look. :breakfast:

 

Breadcrumbs.

 

The above led me to this fine video about pacmanexpress. The video really impressed me with its presentation. If all program makers made similar quality videos that captured the imagination the world would warm to open source much quicker than it has up to the present. Consider this video with a standard git hub page and you'll see what I mean.

 

http://www.youtube.c...bed/BnEz4VnVgRw

 

The breadcrumbs lead me to repacman which seemed like a very useful tool. Though I am not absolutely sure why.

 

 

Why use repacman while all packets are available online?

 

This command lets you keep in an archive compatible with pacman (or yogurt), the exact installation of existing software on your system with your own configuration changes to the software (files in / etc including)

 

http://translate.goo...&tbb=1&ie=UTF-8

 

An finally the breadcrumbs led me to these Arch derivatives the funkiest of which is Groovyarcade.

 

http://code.google.com/p/groovyarcade/

 

An to Cinnarch which is looking for a new name as they are dumping cinnamon and all things Mint and converting to Gnome.

 

http://www.cinnarch.com/about/

 

Ending up at this very strange Arch derivative whose purpose and forums leave me totally baffled.

 

http://translate.goo...KIRQsfCaqhnt6xA

 

I do not idealize Arch. And do not believe that we should stay on his turnips. So it is very bouncy. "There was no sadness so pumped up for updates" not everyone will like.

I do not understand why the problems in the juniper will fight harder ... Source codes are the same ... But there Pobol community. And lamer do not sit on the juniper

 

Now I must get going as I have a trancefusion to attend to. :breakfast:

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securitybreach

Repacman sounds useful though :thumbsup:

 

Of course, it has not been updated in two years:

First Submitted: 2011-03-14 18:45

Last Updated: 2011-09-21 05:32

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The problem with all of these derivatives is that they tend to take an arch base but add their own custom repos. This in turn makes them not compatible with regular Arch and futures updates, which depend on previous package versions, could cause disasters. I have seen this happen before on vanilla arch when holding back certain packages. Do you all remember the glibc fiasco a while back and how a ton packages depended on the glibc version? Now imagine if the arch based distro you used did not follow the vanilla upgrade path with glibc but updated other packages. You would end up with a borked system.

 

Now if you do want to use an Arch based distro, I would suggest CinnArch, Archbang or BridgeLinux. These are the only ones that I know of that use vanilla Arch repos and follow the exact upgrade path as Arch. These distros basically just use scripts to install a readmade Archlinux setup. You lose the option of building it yourself but you are running (mostly) Vanilla Archlinux after installation.

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However, please bear in mind that requests for support when using ArchBang or Chakra are often summarily rejected in help fora that have an Arch Linux context (ArchBang and other Arch Linux derivatives are not considered be to within the remit of Arch Linux support by most).

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/20869/is-archbang-just-arch-linux-openbox

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abarbarian

Repacman sounds useful though :thumbsup:

 

Of course, it has not been updated in two years:

 

It still works though.

 

Cinnarch is one of the derivatives I linked to.

 

An if you do regular backups. borked systems are a minor hiccup. That is if folk do regular backups. :Laughing: which everyone does as a matter of course :Laughing:

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An if you do regular backups. borked systems are a minor hiccup. That is if folk do regular backups. :Laughing: which everyone does as a matter of course :Laughing:

 

You can restore the snapshot but I mean that you will not be able to update the distro again since the their upgrade path is not compatible with Archlinux.

 

Let me quote the Archlinxu Toolchain Maintainer/Pacman Developer, Allan McRae:

...remember Arch Linux rebuilds against new versions of libraries with soname bumps all the time and our toolchain gets updated very quickly after any upstream release. So any security update built against new libraries or with a new toolchain version require those components moved too. And they are the types of updates that could introduce stability issues.

http://allanmcrae.co...-for-stability/

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You can restore the snapshot but I mean that you will not be able to update the distro again since the their upgrade path is not compatible with Archlinux.

 

Let me quote the Archlinxu Toolchain Maintainer/Pacman Developer, Allan McRae:

 

http://allanmcrae.co...-for-stability/

 

I figured. My point was you would not be left without a working system. Which would give you time to find a solution. I was just wondering where turnips and juniper come in ? Surely all they need is some pig and they are all set for a feast.

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