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From the latest version release notes: Who coulda seen that coming? Even Blind Freddie I reckon! Also : Coming soon - Not ESR any more. I have Floorp, FF-ESR, and FF 126.0 installed currently. And Chromium. Considering ditching Floorp if it's monetising and just do some tweaks to FF 126. I've only really been using Floorp for one website which is not working in FF-ESR and that's likely because of all the tweaks I have done. I can't work out which tweak is the culprit - it just makes Google login fail. Note to self - document all the tweaks in future.

Agreed wa4chq

I've been using i3 for many years....it's nice and simple and can be tricked out if you want....so I'm good in that department. Regarding WM's....when I first started my Linux journey, I tried Blackbox but went with Fluxbox. Used it for several years.....had that lookin' sweet. No wallpaper, just a solid color.....and I'd have xsnow running in the background...

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well there ya go...problem solved! I never mentioned i3 cuz I have no experience with it, but I think that qualifies as a low-overhead WM. Added bonus, I think that is SBs preferred WM, so I'm sure he can help you configure it! Question on the failed Pi installations....I'd be curious to go back and install Alpine with terminal/CLI only (no DE, despite the choices), and then add the xorg and WM packages you like. Getting a GUI DE running on a 4GB Pi seems to suggest your theory is correct. And if your theory is correct, you've got some Pis you can install minimalist WMs on for your various projects. Just thinking out loud... Congrats on solving that. Learned a LONG time ago...when using Linux, sometimes the solution is simply the hardware.

Now let's see how long it takes for me to blow it up! lol

Excellent

So, that was what was causing my problems.....1gb of ram was not enough. Install went just fine....no error messages noted.

Yep, I think think once everything is up and running, as long as the repositories are updated I think you could install anything you wanted. I really don't care for any we've mentioned. I use i3-wm 98% of the time. BTW....the new RPi4 w/4gb of ram arrived and I've got Alpine up and running with XFCE!

Gotcha....I only referenced LXDE because I thought you mentioned it earlier. And it is probably the BEST choice for a DE. But it looks like you're correct, no LXDE in Alpine. According to Alpine Wiki, here are your choices: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Desktop_environments_and_Window_managers I note the verbiage "many are available and are attempted to be listed...", which suggests to me that others are available, and the list isn't comprehensive. I note that all the WMs i mentioned are absent from that list, except OpenBox. I find it hard to believe that Fluxbox isn't available. It's not as popular as OpenBox, but it's still probably the 2nd most popular WM, and I have yet to come across a distro that doesn't have Flux in the repos. Of the choices listed, I'd suggest LXQT and XFCE are similar with respect to resource usage. LXQT will pull in OpenBox as a dependency, while XFCE will pull in xfwm4. For that reason, I'd choose LXQT, as you'll be able to bypass LXQT at login and just choose OpenBox as a desktop session; I'm not sure xfwm4 will allow that. OpenBox will allow you to modify the OpenBox start file to only include what you want (I'd suggest lxqt-panels to make it look like a DE....until you get used to the default look of OB with no other GUI elements). I'm not a fan of OpenBox's syntax, which resembles HTML, but many folks like OB for that reason. I prefer the plain english of Fluxbox, if available in the Alpine repos. And OpenBox and Fluxbox are nearly identical in behavior, appearance, and features; so what applies to one, usually applies to the other. the biggest differences, IMO, are that Fluxbox files are configured in plain text; Fluxbox has "tabbed windows" feature, which allows drag & drop windows to group them in same window (say 2-6 applications running displaying in ONE window, with tabs to choose what you want to see); and Flux has a "taskbar" to show system info and open windows/desktops configured (I disable this feature, but it's a +1 compared to OB). Other than that....nearly identical. You probably saw this already, but here's the LXQT installation: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/LXQt If that works for you, happy to help you get setup to bypass LXQT at login and just start your WM. EDIT: Found this regarding Fluxbox on Alpine https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Fluxbox I'd suggest following that tutorial, and if you want a desktop that LOOKS like a DE, just install lxqt-panel separately, and autostart in Flux. I can help with Flux, if you choose to go that route. If you prefer OB, I can still help, but I'm a little weak with HTML syntax. Either way, I'll do what I can for you.

Thanks for the reply and info, HJ....when configuring Alpine, they offer kde, gnome, xfce...might be one more but that's it. Maybe after you get it up and running you could switch over to something slimmer... I'll see what happens with more ram. I'm also having problems getting DietPI working. Maybe it's my mojo....or lack of....lol

^ That makes sense! Most modern DEs require around 500MB or more, at IDLE. Open a web browser and you're maxed. I remember testing DEs and RAM usage once upon a time, and LXDE was the lowest consumer of RAM, hands down. If memory serves correct, I was able to minimize startup services and track LXDE using around 150-175MB of RAM at startup, in an idle state. But this was MANY years ago....before LXDE was merged with RazorQT into LXQT. If your theory is correct, this is another good reason to install a WM-only environment on a Pi; and only start the services you want....that you'll absolutely need at startup. Many WMs (Openbox, Fluxbox, PekWM, JWM, IceWM, WindowMaker) use less than 100MB of RAM at startup. I crafted a custom desktop that I called Mimetic, in which I installed Fluxbox, and used the Fluxbox startup file to only call the LXDE GUI components I wanted (lxpanel, tint2, etc...), rather than the entire DE session. I'd say it was a Fluxbox environment, with an LXDE "skin"; as opposed to an LXDE environment, with Flux as the WM. IMO....this is definitely the way to go, FWIW! And it doesn't have to be Fluxbox....that's just MY preference. All the WMs I mentioned have very similar, although different, feature sets; and all are similarly utilitarian and frugal with resources. For what you say you're using those Pis for, I definitely think you should look into WMs, rather than DEs. JMO...

Hey AB....They're fun little devices to mess around with. I have several here and one more on the way. I'm using them for Pihole, plane spotting, music server, MagicMirror....ham radio to access Reverse Beacon.... I'm thinking the problem with me not getting a desktop setup w/ Alpine on my RPi4 is not enough RAM....the RPi4 only has 1gb and I think it needs at least 2 or more. The one on the way has 4g....we shall see....

I used one of these for my Inky pHAT project. It is a 32 bit and no desktop stuff but you could add one. https://downloads.raspberrypi.com/raspios_lite_armhf/images/ Found this video Chapters 00:00 [Intro] 02:55 [Raspberry Pi 4] 04:54 [Raspbian OS Lite Installation] 10:44 [Assemble the Raspberry Pi] 13:24 [Power up the Raspberry Pi] 16:08 [SSH into the Raspberry Pi] 17:52 [Update the Raspberry Pi] 20:35 [How to shut down the Pi] 22:05 [Boot up the Pi] 22:55 [What do you do with the Pi] 23:08 [Hook up an SDR] 23:18 [Track airplanes via ADS-B] 24:27 [Track weather balloons] 25:31 [Questions?] 25:45 [Like and Subscribe!] It was done by a guy called K9SWX Ham Radio.

At todays rates that would be $77. Kit like that is always much much cheaper in the USA than here.

Actually, I paid $98 U.S. for mine just a couple of months ago, but when I checked the latest price on Amazon, it had come down a lot.

Cool

My monthly saving is for a few reasons: Communications charges are pretty high in Canada to begin with so more room for discounts. Rogers is desperate to move legacy cable TV users to IPTV. They don't sell the legacy service to new users while not offering any discounts at all to existing legacy users. They will give you a substantial discount if you switch to strictly Internet based TV. Rogers waived all installation and setup fees so I got a technician to come in and do the setup. I was mostly concerened that the TV boxes would work OK as I know how to set up an Internet network. I had been holding off because I had the old SDTV equipment which would be useless with Internet based TV. When that equipment would be useless anyhow it seemed like a good time to make the change. With my old modem I needed a rather complicated mesh router system to get decent wifi coverage in the house, but the new gateway seems much better. It has "Band Steering" so that each device gets the best wifi frequency it can use.

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"