NVIDIA & New Install Mandriva2006

[rakemup]

Helpstartx gets nowhereI did an FTP install of the X86.64 version of Mandriva 2006.My kernel (uname -r) shows 2.6.12-12mdkI downloaded via urpmi: kernel-source 2.6-2.6.12-12mdkIs that the correct source file? I cannot find an exact souce named "kernel-source 2.6.12-12mdk"thanks!

[Bruno]

Hi RakemupYou did get the right kernel-source okay ! . . . No worries there.Could you boot up to the text-console and type "root" to login and then type "XFdrake" . . you will get the "configure X tool" . . . . first try if the "test" works with the default driver the wizard picks for you . . . . if it does not, look in the "xorg" section ( totally at the bottom of the list for the graphics cards ) . . there is an "nv-generic" one . . . . please try if that one works . . . . If even that one refuses to work use the "vesa" driver . . . that one is 100% sure to work. BrunoPS: Did you get a GUI before installing the Nvidia drivers ?

[rakemup]

The vesa driver worked --- momentarily. Now when I boot up I get the splash screen for 1/2 second and then a blank screen for 4 seconds over and over.

[Bruno]

I need some more info Rakemup . . . . . 1). You say the "vesa" driver works . . . but how can you then still get the Nvidia splash ? 2). Did you get a GUI before you installed the Nvidia drivers ?3). What driver did you download ? 4). During the install of the driver did you say "No" to the suggestion getting the kernel from Nvidia ? ( Because you did have the source yourself )5). If you reset it to use the "vesa" driver again . . does it boot into a GUI ? Bruno

[rakemup]

I need some more info Rakemup . . . . . 1). You say the "vesa" driver works . . . but how can you then still get the Nvidia splash ? 2). Did you get a GUI before you installed the Nvidia drivers ?3). What driver did you download ? 4). During the install of the driver did you say "No" to the suggestion getting the kernel from Nvidia ? ( Because you did have the source yourself )5). If you reset it to use the "vesa" driver again . . does it boot into a GUI ? Bruno

I'm not getting the Nvidia splash (getting Mandriva2006 background)have not gotten a gui since installing M2006downloaded NVIDIA-linux-x86_64-1.0-7676-pkg2.runI think I said yes to the 'get kernel from Nvidia" --- but that never workedI'm using the vesa driver --- but get the flashing screen

[Bruno]

The best you can do is add this urpmi souce:

# urpmi.addmedia thac_rpms http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/thac//2006.0/RPMS with hdlist.cz

( Since you did an FTP install you will have contrib already )In the Thacs source there is an updated xorg which will work much better . . . also he has some Nvidia stuff specially for 2006 !What I want you to try is add the thacs source and do:

# urmpi.update -a --wget && urpmi --auto-select --wget

I hope that will find the update for the xorg files . . . . ( if not we will have to be more specific with the urpmi command, but first try this one . . ) BrunoADDITIONALLY:After that un-install the nvidia drivers with

nvidia-installer --uninstall

and after that get the "dkms-nvidia-7174-9.mdk2006.0.mde.i586.rpm" by urpmi from the Thacs source . . that should bring a few dependencies for the Nvidia stuff from Thacs as well, but basically you should be set up after that !

[rakemup]

The best you can do is add this urpmi souce:

# urpmi.addmedia thac_rpms http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/thac//2006.0/RPMS with hdlist.cz

( Since you did an FTP install you will have contrib already )In the Thacs source there is an updated xorg which will work much better . . . also he has some Nvidia stuff specially for 2006 !What I want you to try is add the thacs source and do:

# urmpi.update -a --wget && urpmi --auto-select --wget

I hope that will find the update for the xorg files . . . . ( if not we will have to be more specific with the urpmi command, but first try this one . . ) BrunoADDITIONALLY:After that un-install the nvidia drivers with

nvidia-installer --uninstall

and after that get the "dkms-nvidia-7174-9.mdk2006.0.mde.i586.rpm" by urpmi from the Thacs source . . that should bring a few dependencies for the Nvidia stuff from Thacs as well, but basically you should be set up after that !

Ok - I've done all of the above ------ and I've got X. Do I need to go back into XFDrake and change back to the nv-generic driver instead of vesa?

[Bruno]

Ok - I've done all of the above ------ and I've got X. Do I need to go back into XFDrake and change back to the nv-generic driver instead of vesa?

No no no . . . . . all is well like this, the "kdms nvidia" stuff should have adapted your xorg.conf to use the correct "nvidia" driver already . . . . don't touch anything, just have a look if you see the real nvidia drivers ( not the generic "nv" ) load at boot ( messages, dkms-nvidia ) and if you get the nvidia splash screen . . . . ( If you have X don't touch any files without backing them up first so you can restore if needed ) Bruno

[rakemup]

woopswhen I reboot I go back to the M-2006 welcome screen flashing on and off.Still have yet to see the nvidia splash screen

[rakemup]

also:"Modprobe nvidia" returns ---WARNING: etc/modprobe.conf line 10: bad line starting with "nvidia'WARNING: etc/modprobe.conf line 11: bad line starting with "char-major-195*"FATAL: could not open "/lib/modules/2.6.12-12mdk/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko"no such file or directory

[teacher]

You might post the lines from your /etc/modprobe.conf so we we can see what it is complaining about.

[Bruno]

Hi RakemupWhen you installed the "dkms-nvidia-7174-9.mdk2006.0.mde.i586.rpm" did it install other packages as well ( dependencies ) ?? I am thinking about files like "nvidia-xorg-7174-9.mdk2006.0.mde.i586.rpm"and maybe also "nvidia-devel-7174-9.mdk2006.0.mde.i586.rpm" from the same source.For the time being I would change the driver to "nv" or even "vesa" ( but the generic "nv" should also work now with the new xorg ) so you have X again . . . then we will try to troubleshoot the "nvidia" driver later today when I come back from work. Bruno

[rakemup]

The only way I can get X is with the vesa driver.Here is my /etc/modprobe.confalias eth0 eth1394remove snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; /sbin/modprobe --first-time -r --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && { /sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; }alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1alias eth2 via-velocityinstall scsi_hostadapter /sbin/modprobe sata_via; /bin/trueinstall usb-interface /sbin/modprobe uhci-hcd; /sbin/modprobe ehci-hcd; /bin/truealias eth1 eth1394alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394nvidiachar-major-195* nvidia

[Bruno]

Hi RakemupCan you show me the "cat /etc/modprobe.preload" as well ?? . . . . . Aslo I would like to see the output of "lsmod"Also, is "nvidia-xorg-7174-9.mdk2006.0.mde.i586.rpm" installed too ? Bruno

[rakemup]

modprobe preload =bttvbt878amd64-agpamd64-agpamd64-agpnvidialsmod=Module Size Used bymd5 4480 1ipv6 244960 8raw 9736 1snd_seq_dummy 3332 0snd_seq_oss 31460 0snd_seq_midi_event 6912 1 snd_seq_osssnd_seq 50520 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_eventsnd_pcm_oss 51360 0snd_mixer_oss 16384 1 snd_pcm_osssnd_emu10k1 111556 0snd_rawmidi 22688 1 snd_emu10k1snd_seq_device 7952 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidisnd_ac97_codec 88516 1 snd_emu10k1snd_pcm 84748 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codecsnd_timer 21000 3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcmsnd_page_alloc 9360 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcmsnd_util_mem 4096 1 snd_emu10k1snd_hwdep 8736 1 snd_emu10k1snd 48896 11 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdepsoundcore 8352 1 sndvia_velocity 32928 0crc_ccitt 2176 1 via_velocityaf_packet 18316 2floppy 61664 0video 15496 0thermal 12556 0tc1100_wmi 6408 0processor 19528 1 thermalfan 3976 0container 3840 0button 6176 0battery 8840 0ac 4232 0eth1394 18064 0ide_cd 39200 1ohci1394 31052 0ieee1394 350328 2 eth1394,ohci1394loop 14992 0nls_iso8859_1 5376 1ntfs 191240 1bt878 9292 0tvaudio 24356 0bttv 170832 1 bt878video_buf 19972 1 bttvfirmware_class 8960 1 bttvi2c_algo_bit 9096 1 bttvv4l2_common 6528 1 bttvbtcx_risc 4616 1 bttvtveeprom 14488 1 bttvi2c_core 19608 4 tvaudio,bttv,i2c_algo_bit,tveepromvideodev 9472 1 bttvtsdev 7424 0ehci_hcd 28936 0uhci_hcd 29472 0usbcore 114732 3 ehci_hcd,uhci_hcdevdev 9088 0reiserfs 245624 6sd_mod 16408 0sata_via 6660 0libata 41352 1 sata_viascsi_mod 132440 2 sd_mod,libatalooks like "nvidia-xorg-7174-9.mdk2006.0.mde.i586.rpm" is not installed

[Bruno]

Hi RakemupPlease first do "urpmi.update -a" then install nvidia-xorg-7174-9.mdk2006.0.mde.i586.rpm, and next please comment out the "nvidia" line in /etc/modprobe.conf ( because you already have it in modprobe.preload ) and the "char-major-195* nvidia" line too . . then reboot and show me "lsmod" again BrunoPS: Is this AMD 64 ??

[rakemup]

yes ---- AMD64I did urpmi.update -a.when I try to install the nvidia-xorg-7174 file I get this response: urpmi nvidia-xorg-7174-9.mdk2006.0.mde.i586One of the following packages is needed: 1- libnvidia-opengl1-7676-4.mdk2006.0.mde.i586 : NVIDIA OpenGL libraries (to install) 2- nVidia_GLX-7667-4.mdk2006.0.mde.i586 : NVIDIA module for XFree86 4.0 X server and OpenGL libraries (to install)What is your choice? (1-2)NEITHER works ---- even with --force

[Bruno]

Hi RakemupThis is getting complicated . . . . I was not aware it was for AMD 64 and I am not sure we will be able to fix this before the new Xorg ( stable ) is released in December.There was a new xorg ( cvs ) uploaded on thacs yesterday, maybe you could first try upgrading to that one. Next you might try to remove ( with uprme ) the dkms package you installed the day before ( because I think it is i586 ) and get the 64 bits drivers from http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp ( make sure you have the 64 bits ones ! ) and try the drivers the usual way. Bruno

[rakemup]

the dkms package has been removedwhen I try to download from thacs - I get an error messagewhen I downloaded a driver from Nvidia at the start of this --- it was the "LinuxAMD64/EM64T one (1.0-7676)

[Bruno]

when I downloaded a driver from Nvidia at the start of this --- it was the "LinuxAMD64/EM64T one (1.0-7676)

That should be the correct one . . . . ;)Maybe try to install them again . . . . maybe with the Xorg files you got upgraded last time they will work.Forget about the other files from the Thac-source . . . . he is still changing the lot of them so it can be hard to download. Bruno

[rakemup]

I re-installed the Nvidia driver --- still no luck. I guess I'll just stick with the vesa driver for a couple of weeks and then try Thacs again.Has anyone out there had success with Nvidia on an AMD64 machine?

[rakemup]

Is there some way I can request notification ------ when the new Xorg ( stable ) is released ?

[teacher]

Just keep an eye on the forum - or subscribe to it for daily notifications or rss feed. I don't know a way to tell directly. It does seem to be pretty nice. I only have one thing I don't like about it from playing with the unstable rc.

[Bruno]

Hi RakemupThe latest version on the Thac source is "6.9-1.cvs20051107.1.mdk2006.0.mde" . . . you can update your Thac source and get that version.If even that ones fails to be nice with the Nvidia drivers I will make a note to PM you when the "stable" is on the Thac mirror ( I am sure it will be there first ) BrunoPS: I think you installed 2006 from the x86_64 tree ( and not from amd64 because that one is only in cooker ) . . . so maybe you should get the Linux IA64 drives from Nvidia and not the AMD64/EM64T ones. It is just a wild guess, but your install is a x86 one and for the 586 ( 32 bits) we always take the IA32 drivers ( yep I know that IA is intell ) even with an AMD CPU . . . can you follow my thoughts ?

[rakemup]

still doesn't workI will just wait for the AMD64 version of 2006thanks anyway

[Bruno]

The official ISOs are available Rakemup:ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Man.../x86_64/2006.0/I would try these first . . and get the IA64 driver from NvidiaB) Bruno

[rakemup]

The official ISOs are available Rakemup:ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Man.../x86_64/2006.0/I would try these first . . and get the IA64 driver from NvidiaB) Bruno

OK - thought I'd try one more time. I did a fresh install of 2006 x86_64 from the iso files on CD. I downloaded the IA64 driver from Nvidia. When I try to run it I get the error msg: "this file is for Linux ia64 .... you appear to be running Linux X86_64.ert/modprobe.preload =bttvbt878amd64-agpamd64-agpamd64-agplsmod =Module Size Used byisofs 32992 0vfat 12288 0fat 46896 1 vfatvia_velocity 32928 0crc_ccitt 2176 1 via_velocitymd5 4480 1ipv6 244960 8raw 9736 1snd_seq_dummy 3332 0snd_seq_oss 31460 0snd_seq_midi_event 6912 1 snd_seq_osssnd_seq 50520 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_eventsnd_pcm_oss 51360 0snd_mixer_oss 16384 1 snd_pcm_osssnd_emu10k1 111556 0snd_rawmidi 22688 1 snd_emu10k1snd_seq_device 7952 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidisnd_ac97_codec 88516 1 snd_emu10k1snd_pcm 84748 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codecsnd_timer 21000 3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcmsnd_page_alloc 9360 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcmsnd_util_mem 4096 1 snd_emu10k1snd_hwdep 8736 1 snd_emu10k1snd 48896 11 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdepsoundcore 8352 1 sndaf_packet 18316 0floppy 61664 0eth1394 18064 0video 15496 0thermal 12556 0tc1100_wmi 6408 0processor 19528 1 thermalfan 3976 0container 3840 0button 6176 0battery 8840 0ac 4232 0ide_cd 39200 0ohci1394 31052 0ieee1394 350328 2 eth1394,ohci1394loop 14992 0nls_iso8859_1 5376 1ntfs 191240 1bt878 9292 0tvaudio 24356 0bttv 170832 1 bt878video_buf 19972 1 bttvfirmware_class 8960 1 bttvi2c_algo_bit 9096 1 bttvv4l2_common 6528 1 bttvbtcx_risc 4616 1 bttvtveeprom 14488 1 bttvi2c_core 19608 4 tvaudio,bttv,i2c_algo_bit,tveepromvideodev 9472 1 bttvtsdev 7424 0ehci_hcd 28936 0uhci_hcd 29472 0usbcore 114732 3 ehci_hcd,uhci_hcdevdev 9088 0reiserfs 245624 6sd_mod 16408 0sata_via 6660 0libata 41352 1 sata_viascsi_mod 132440 2 sd_mod,libata

[Bruno]

I have to admit that you did get the correct drivers the first time indeed and that the IA64 are the wrong ones . . . . Bruno

[rakemup]

I have to admit that you did get the correct drivers the first time indeed and that the IA64 are the wrong ones . . . . Bruno

I now have the X86_64 driver and the kernel source code installed. The module seems to have been built for nvidia --- but vesa is the only way I can get X.

[Bruno]

. . . . . . I will send you a PM as soon as the new "stable" Xorg is available . . . . . I think that is all we can do right now Bruno