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#1 OFFLINE   crp

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 12:33 AM

To be more specific, Steam support for Ubuntu will be stopped?

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 06:19 AM

The headline is a bit misleading. They are simply switching distros that they develop Steam on. If anything, this move is to support linux even further:

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According to Valve developer Pierre-Loup Griffais, the company will "evaluate ways to minimize breakage for existing users," though it will also be focusing on "a different distribution, currently TBD."

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 03:33 PM

Bit more info,

Valve developer Pierre-Loup Griffais working on Steam for Linux announced that they will drop support for the upcoming Ubuntu 19.10 release, as well as future Ubuntu Linux releases.

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Valve's harsh announcement comes just a few days after Canonical's announcement that they will drop support for 32-bit (i386) architectures in Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine). Pierre-Loup Griffais said on Twitter that Steam for Linux won't be officially supported on Ubuntu 19.10, nor any future releases.
The Steam developer also added that Valve will focus their efforts on supporting other Linux-based operating systems for Steam for Linux. They will be looking for a GNU/Linux distribution that still offers support for 32-bit apps, and that they will try to minimize the breakage for Ubuntu users.
"Ubuntu 19.10 and future releases will not be officially supported by Steam or recommended to our users. We will evaluate ways to minimize breakage for existing users, but will also switch our focus to a different distribution, currently TBD," said Valve developer Pierre-Loup Griffais.

Remember WINE also uses 32 Bit stuff, soooooooooooooooooooo,

Canonical returning 32-bit Ubuntu Linux support after gaming uproar

32-bit software should be functionally obsolete, but it turns out to live on in a 64-bit computing world. So, Canonical is putting 32-bit libraries back in to its next Ubuntu Linux releases.


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There are few--if any--people demanding new Linux versions for their antique i386 PCs.Linux itself dropped support for the seminal 32-bit processor in 2012. At the time, Linus Torvalds bid 32-bit Linux good-bye saying, "I'm not sentimental. Good riddance."

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Ubuntu developer Will Cooke explained that while "386 makes up around 1% of the Ubuntu install base," the potential problems were larger. While the 32-bit operating system are history, it turns out, 32-bit software libraries have lived on, and some very popular programs -- mostly games -- still use them. Developers and Ubuntu users were not happy.

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It's been known for some time that both Steam and Wine depended on archaic 32-bit libraries. "On the list of known blockers for removing the i386 port are Steam and Wine." It also appears that some drivers -- in particular for older Brother printers -- are only functional with 32-bit libraries.

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In the meantime, a bit of testing by Alan Pope, a Canonical developer advocate, found that some existing Steam and Wine programs won't run on beta Ubuntu 19.10. Ubuntu developers worried --naturally enough -- that this will make some Linux desktop users drop Ubuntu.



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Moving forward, Canonical has decided "it's relatively easy for us to change plans and enable natively in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS the applications for which there is a specific need."
Canonical also stated it "work with the WINE, Ubuntu Studio and gaming communities to use container technology to address the ultimate end of life of 32-bit libraries; it should stay possible to run old applications on newer versions of Ubuntu. Snaps and LXD enable us both to have complete 32-bit environments, and bundled libraries, to solve these issues in the long term."

So if they knew Wine and Steam needed 32 Bit stuff why on earth did they drop the 32 Bit stuff ? hat a bunch of total D***H**ds.

Storm in a teacup over and done with in less than 24 hours, blink and you would have missed it. Well spotted crp :clap:
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 03:54 PM

Generic Ubuntu has pretty much dropped the desktop user by reducing/eliminating scrollbars so they are unusable, using a file manager that cannot properly copy and paste files because of a years old defect, etc., etc., etc.  It is so bad I moved to Ubuntu Mate, which would be better named the Ubuntu Desktop version.

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 03:54 PM

32bit distros and 32bit applications are not the same as lib32- versions of libraries.
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