RobertM Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Hello,I am an experienced PC user looking to purchase my first Mac. My problem is I can't decide which one is right for me. I'm 18, just graduated from HS, and will be paying for this computer myself. My budget is less than $1500, but preferably around $1000--or, of course, less. (Keep in mind that I'm elegible for academic pricing in the Apple Store.)I at first looked at the Mac Mini because of its low price, but I have no LCD or keyboard (I've got the mouse covered, at least) I could use with the Mini if I got that, which I estimate as adding about $300 to the cost. I say LCD because I'll probably need one to fit comfortably on my desk--though it depends on the room, which I won't find out about until later.I could get the eMac, but then again, there's the CRT thing. At least this time it's built-in.But here are my concerns about both the Mini and eMac: adding a display to the Mini might take me up to near the cost of iMacs (at least the on-sale or refurbished ones found in that section of the Store), but using a CRT or using an eMac might make me need to put the keyboard on my lap to use the computer! Also they both use G4 processors, which I'm kinda worred will be a bit slower and less usable in the future than G5's, but maybe this fear is unfouned. After all, even the PowerBooks (and iBooks, and eMacs, and Minis...) still use them, but I wonder if the G5 will help me get a little mroe use out of this computer in the future than a G4 will.Anyway ... somehow, I've managed to be thinking of an iMac now. (Somebody stop me before I buy a personal XServe!) Luckily, the refurb store has one I like for $1000, but it appears to be from the older line that they just refreshed. But it's still 1.8 GHz, 17-in screen, SuperDrive, though only 256 MB RAM (easily and cheaply upgraded from Crucial, I see--$27 for an extra 256), and no AirPort Extreme card. I assume I can add one (again just a $60 or $70 upgrade) on the premise that all G5 iMacs are Airport Extreme-ready--someone correct me if I'm wrong. Unfortunately, no internal Bluetooth like the newer ones have, but I can live without that. I think my keyboard will be wired, anyway. And, of course, the refurb selection is subject to change by the time I buy ... but hopefully there'll still be something good.My uses will be a lot of Web browsing and e-mail, and typical college work like word processing. I'll also probably use it for Web design, maybe a bit of graphics, and hopefully some programming like I currently do on my PC. Possibly audio recording, as well--I compose, too, but maybe not. But I'm not planning on any huge video editing or anything. (Please don't let me get talked into a Power Mac. No, no, I like the form factor of the iMac too much.)Does a (refurbished first-revision) iMac G5 seem like a reasonable choice for me? I'm open to any suggestions based on my budget, needs, and the other issues I mentioned.Thanks!Hopefully, soon, I'll be coming back here to ask y'all what some cool stuff I can do with my Mac (for added effect, maybe something I can'd do with my PC) ... Oh, and will anyone think I'm crazy for going to college with TWO computers, an iMac G5 and my one-year-old HP laptop? (And, yeah, there's always the question of do I *need* another new computer...and, no, I'm not rich by any means to afford this--I just saved everything from three years of detasseling, and will begin work at a waterpark this summer which will hopefully provide me with the rest I need for this Mac after a few weeks... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Hey, I say get the Mini. You can pick up a 19" Samsung LCD for only a few hundred if you look around. I bought an Addesso Mac keyboard inexpensively and am very happy with it -- or the Apple Bluetooth keyboard (which I bought an returned) is $60-70. Right now, the Mini is the best deal around, IMO. It also takes up no space whatsoever. Unless you need a notebook, I'd go with the mini. -- Scot Hello,I am an experienced PC user looking to purchase my first Mac. My problem is I can't decide which one is right for me. I'm 18, just graduated from HS, and will be paying for this computer myself. My budget is less than $1500, but preferably around $1000--or, of course, less. (Keep in mind that I'm elegible for academic pricing in the Apple Store.)I at first looked at the Mac Mini because of its low price, but I have no LCD or keyboard (I've got the mouse covered, at least) I could use with the Mini if I got that, which I estimate as adding about $300 to the cost. I say LCD because I'll probably need one to fit comfortably on my desk--though it depends on the room, which I won't find out about until later.I could get the eMac, but then again, there's the CRT thing. At least this time it's built-in.But here are my concerns about both the Mini and eMac: adding a display to the Mini might take me up to near the cost of iMacs (at least the on-sale or refurbished ones found in that section of the Store), but using a CRT or using an eMac might make me need to put the keyboard on my lap to use the computer! Also they both use G4 processors, which I'm kinda worred will be a bit slower and less usable in the future than G5's, but maybe this fear is unfouned. After all, even the PowerBooks (and iBooks, and eMacs, and Minis...) still use them, but I wonder if the G5 will help me get a little mroe use out of this computer in the future than a G4 will.Anyway ... somehow, I've managed to be thinking of an iMac now. (Somebody stop me before I buy a personal XServe!) Luckily, the refurb store has one I like for $1000, but it appears to be from the older line that they just refreshed. But it's still 1.8 GHz, 17-in screen, SuperDrive, though only 256 MB RAM (easily and cheaply upgraded from Crucial, I see--$27 for an extra 256), and no AirPort Extreme card. I assume I can add one (again just a $60 or $70 upgrade) on the premise that all G5 iMacs are Airport Extreme-ready--someone correct me if I'm wrong. Unfortunately, no internal Bluetooth like the newer ones have, but I can live without that. I think my keyboard will be wired, anyway. And, of course, the refurb selection is subject to change by the time I buy ... but hopefully there'll still be something good.My uses will be a lot of Web browsing and e-mail, and typical college work like word processing. I'll also probably use it for Web design, maybe a bit of graphics, and hopefully some programming like I currently do on my PC. Possibly audio recording, as well--I compose, too, but maybe not. But I'm not planning on any huge video editing or anything. (Please don't let me get talked into a Power Mac. No, no, I like the form factor of the iMac too much.)Does a (refurbished first-revision) iMac G5 seem like a reasonable choice for me? I'm open to any suggestions based on my budget, needs, and the other issues I mentioned.Thanks!Hopefully, soon, I'll be coming back here to ask y'all what some cool stuff I can do with my Mac (for added effect, maybe something I can'd do with my PC) ... Oh, and will anyone think I'm crazy for going to college with TWO computers, an iMac G5 and my one-year-old HP laptop? (And, yeah, there's always the question of do I *need* another new computer...and, no, I'm not rich by any means to afford this--I just saved everything from three years of detasseling, and will begin work at a waterpark this summer which will hopefully provide me with the rest I need for this Mac after a few weeks... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted May 25, 2005 Author Share Posted May 25, 2005 Hey, I say get the Mini. You can pick up a 19" Samsung LCD for only a few hundred if you look around. I bought an Addesso Mac keyboard inexpensively and am very happy with it -- or the Apple Bluetooth keyboard (which I bought an returned) is $60-70. Right now, the Mini is the best deal around, IMO. It also takes up no space whatsoever. Unless you need a notebook, I'd go with the mini. -- Scot<{POST_SNAPBACK}> ::faints:: regarding that 19" LCD for only a few hundred--assuming you mean about $300. But even if I take the lower-end Mini and add 512 MB RAM, 802.11g + Bluetooth, a SuperDrive, and leave it at the default 40 GB HD (not to mention the 1.25 GHz G4 processor--OTOH, I'm used to iBooks with processors several hundred MHz less than this...), I get $748. Add $300 for the display, and it's already $1048, and that's totally ignoring the cost of a keyboard, say $26 for the Apple one.I've found a refurbished iMac for $999 (if the link fails, which it probably will, it's currently the first iMac listed under the Apple-Ceritified iMac G5 section of the online refrub store, accessible by clicking the red "SAVE" tag on the right-hand column), and adding a wireless card myself--if my assumption that it's Airport Extreme-ready is correct--and an extra 256 MB RAM to match what I configured the Mini for, I'm up to about $1105, which is not all that much more than that Mini (only $57, to be exact)--and this, of course, includes the keyboard, mouse (which I'll probably replace with my current one), and the display and computer rolled into one. I'd assume the iMac G5 would perform better than the Mini and that my extra $57 would be worth it, assuming the prices don't fluctuate or the refurbished selection doesn't change by the time I'm ready to purchase.Except, oops, I've ignored educational prices. The Minis would be $703 and $803 (or, if I include my esimate for display and still ignore the keyboard, $1003 and $1103), compared to the refurbished iMac which stays at $999 (or $1095, including my addition expense esimates of the education-price Airport Extreme card and the Crucial RAM). Still only $92 more than the lower-end Mini and actually $8 less than the upper-end Mini. AND, there's also a 1.6 GHz iMac that I could get for $899, or $995 if I include the Airport Extreme and RAM upgrades, less than either Mini.And all this assumes my $300 esimate for the LCD is correct. (19" is great; I prefer at least 1280x768 for a Mac). And any shipping costs I'd need to pay for it--though I guess I'm ignoring shipping for the iMac's extra RAM, too, if I buy that online.Wow.I guess it's probably up to me now, and if nothing changes between now and when I buy it, I really think I'd go for the first-generation refurbished 1.8 GHz 17-in iMac G5 and also buy the Airport Extreme card with it and then extra RAM either then or later. Unless anyone thinks I'd be just as happy with the lower-end Mini or sees any significant reason not to buy a refurbished iMac (or even one in the "Sale" section that doesn't claim to be refurbished).Thanks for the reply--and for listening to me think out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Ok, Robert. Sounds like you have it all worked out on your own.-- Scot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 and Free shipping on all those deals on the Red Tag page too.Good deal for someone looking for a refurb/reconditioned/Apple Certified computer.They even have a eMac (what ever that means exactly) for $599 with free shipping and iLife 05 included and 1 yr warranty card. (Note: OS X 10.3)not too bad ... but it's a bring your own monitor type of thing from the looks of things.Wonder if the eMac can be upgraded to OS X Tiger?Not that I can get one of these puppies right now ... but very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjf123 Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 They even have a eMac (what ever that means exactly) for $599 with free shipping and iLife 05 included and 1 yr warranty card. (Note: OS X 10.3)not too bad ... but it's a bring your own monitor type of thing from the looks of things.Actually, the eMac line has a built in monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted May 26, 2005 Author Share Posted May 26, 2005 and Free shipping on all those deals on the Red Tag page too.Good deal for someone looking for a refurb/reconditioned/Apple Certified computer.They even have a eMac (what ever that means exactly) for $599 with free shipping and iLife 05 included and 1 yr warranty card. (Note: OS X 10.3)not too bad ... but it's a bring your own monitor type of thing from the looks of things.Wonder if the eMac can be upgraded to OS X Tiger?Not that I can get one of these puppies right now ... but very interesting.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> The eMac was originally sold only for education, hence the "e" (it was like an iMac but used a CRT instead of an LCD). Soon they sold it to "normal" people, too, and, of course, still do today.As for shipping, I think everything over $50 (or some certain price) has free shipping from Apple.And, yep, the eMac can be upgraded to Tiger—$129 for a single-user license. In fact, that's what all new eMacs (actually, all new Macs) come with, and I looked at a few refurbished eMacs, all of which said they came with Tiger—though I may have overlooked one that doesn't. I'd be surprised if it didn't already, though. (EDIT: I caught this just before submitting my post--there is a really old 1 GHz refurbished eMac that says it still has 10.3.)And yep, the refurb/sale section of the store is great for those who are trying to save a bit of money. You know, you can even get a first-revision iPod mini there for $169... :)Again, thanks to everybody for their advice. I look forward to joining the Mac world as soon as I can purchase my computer. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted May 30, 2005 Author Share Posted May 30, 2005 (edited) Welp, just like I said might happen, the 1.8 GHz 17" SuperDrive iMac G5 is now gone from the refurb store. They have a 1.6 GHz ComboDrive one for a mere $899, but I was thinking I wanted a SuperDrive. Now I'm not so sure, as I already have a DVD burner on my laptop, though it's only single-layer (SuperDrives are dual). Maybe I could just get a ComboDrive and add a USB/Firewire burner later--maybe even when Blu-ray drives are readily available (assuming HD-DVD doesn't beat it out, but I'm rooting for Blu-ray, and so is Apple).That being said, in the last year, I've burned a total of two DVDs on my laptop, and one of them was just a test. So I probably don't really need it anyway, except maybe DVD+RW as backup ... BUT I'll have two computers, and I'm sure my important data can be mirrored on the two of them or ... ooo ... maybe an external HD. Edit: And is that gigabit Ethernet I see on the new iMacs?!Of course, by the time I'm ready to buy, the selection may be different, anyway, so I'm not too worried. If nothing else, there's the Mini ... or even a *new* ComboDrive iMac, which only about $200 more than what I was looking at before (with educational pricing), and it already includes everything I would have had to add before: 512 MB RAM, Airport Extreme, plus Bluetooth (which I probably won't use but won't hurt). Edited May 30, 2005 by RobertM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 ...and, no, I'm not rich by any means to afford this--I just saved everything from three years of detasseling, and will begin work at a waterpark this summer which will hopefully provide me with the rest I need for this Mac after a few weeks... )<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah detassling still exists? I thought that had gone to a mechanized process years ago. That was one of my first jobs a few years ago. I had to searcfh and find your state. I grew up just south of there one state and had not heard of anyone doing that in years.I vote for the mini. It will take up less valuable space in a dorm room and you could go for a 17 or 18" monitor and probably keep it within your price range. Have fun shopping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted May 30, 2005 Author Share Posted May 30, 2005 Ah detassling still exists? I thought that had gone to a mechanized process years ago. That was one of my first jobs a few years ago. I had to searcfh and find your state. I grew up just south of there one state and had not heard of anyone doing that in years.I vote for the mini. It will take up less valuable space in a dorm room and you could go for a 17 or 18" monitor and probably keep it within your price range. Have fun shopping. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ha, I wish (I could be wrong, but I think the entire population of teenagers in the midwest wishes so, too) it were mechanized--although they do have a "cutter" that goes through first and takes out a lot of "leafage" and a lot of tassels, but there are still plenty left. Thanks for the advice--both you and Scot seem to like the Mini for me. The only thing that bothers me is the G4, but I guess it's not in danger of obselescence any time soon considering that the majority of their computers still use it. (And I'm used to the school's iBooks, whose processors still measure less than 1 GHz...some with OS 9 and others with 10.2. So I guess anything should seem faster. And don't even get me started on those G3 iMacs with OS 9 on which the yearbook staff has to use Photoshop and PageMaker! Load an image that's a bit too big, and the whole OS goes down...ah, OS X, how glad I am you came, however late you were.)I guess it will come down to the price. Unless I can find an iMac for near the price of a Mini plus my esimated monitor/keyboard(/mouse?) costs--which I almost did before it disappeared from the Refurbished section of the store--I might just go for the Mini.Gracias! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inform Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Not to through a wrench into the works; but since your using this at school and space is an issue why not an iBook? I just got a 14" for a friend with airport extreme and 512mb for $1100. You'll have everything you need in a very nice form factor that you can take with you to the library and so forth. Perfect for a student and it comes with Tiger, iLife and Appleworks. Later you could get Office if needed at the education price. Check out the referb prices on one. an iBook is the way I would go.Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rons Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 Not to through a wrench into the works; but since your using this at school and space is an issue why not an iBook? I just got a 14" for a friend with airport extreme and 512mb for $1100. You'll have everything you need in a very nice form factor that you can take with you to the library and so forth. Perfect for a student and it comes with Tiger, iLife and Appleworks. Later you could get Office if needed at the education price. Check out the referb prices on one. an iBook is the way I would go.Good luck<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted May 31, 2005 Author Share Posted May 31, 2005 An iBook, eh? I've used the old 12" (1024x768) ones at school and didn't like them much in laptop form, but like I've said before, these processors were probably 633 MHz or something like that. If there are every any in the refurb store again, I'll have to look.But I do already have a Windows laptop I could use, and maybe VNC back to the Mac in the dorm room if I had to. I'll look into it, but it will take refurbished prices. (PS - Can an iMac be considered semi-portable? For some reason, I can almost imagine a geeky person like me carrying it down to the library, maybe dismounting the display first, and taking a keyboard, mouse, and all the power cords to plug it in. Oh my. Well, at least anything but an eMac or PowerMac would be easy enough to take home when I had to!)(PPS - Again: Somebody stop me before I get a personal XServe!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 Me again. I just want to let the forum know that this morning I bought my first Mac, the 1.8 GHz/SuperDrive/256MB/80GB/56k mac I was talking about before. I also ordered an Airport Extreme card for dessert.Unfortunately, it doesn't start shipping for 7-10 business days, and it can be up to 5 after that until it gets here ... when all is said and done, it should be here by August 1. ::faints:: (This is because it's refurbished stock--new will ship same day or within a few days, usually. In fact, a lot of refurbished items will ship sooner, too, but these iMacs have been appearing and disappearing from the store and you have to "catch" them when they're there!)Ooo, and they have refurbished iPod shuffles starting at $79 (512 MB) or $99 (1 GB). And the 20 GB black-and-white iPod can be had for much cheaper than before, since they have new 20 GB models ($299 like the old ones were) that include color screens standard. And, of course, there's still the great deals on older iPods and iPod minis there.And, of course, some Macs. So if you're looking and don't mind refurbished, be sure to check it out if you want to save some money.Oh, and one more thing: students, you can buy a new Mac and get an iPod "free." Actually, you can buy a qualifying Mac (pretty much any new Mac but a mini) and an iPod in the same order, and get $179 back--the price of a 4 GB mini--in about eight weeks. This is in the Apple Education store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inform Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Congratulations RobertM enjoy your new Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicDragon Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Congrats! you'll have to let us know when it arrives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 Congrats! you'll have to let us know when it arrives <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Last Friday. Not bad for something that was supposed to take 7-10 days to start shipping and an additional 3-5 to arrive. (I ordered it a week ago, last Monday!)It's awesome. My family, an avid group of Apple-haters, even thought it was "Whoa, cool!" (they still don't like it, but I digress). My only complaint is that something is insanely loud. If I look from the back side of the computer, the noise is mostly coming from the lower right--I know the processor is near there, but there must be a fan or something. I'll have to look and call Apple--hopefully they can do something. It IS refurbished, but I still don't think people in other rooms of the house should be telling me how loud and annoying it is.I only got 256 MB RAM, as you can't change the configuration on refurb models (I bought an AirPort Extreme card and added it), so I'm looking to to add more, but it's still pretty snappy, especially when I've read that some people claim Tiger crawls with only that much. My only problem is that the RAM price for this keeps going up, and up...right now it's $36 for an additional 256, which isn't bad, but I know it's been creeping up the last few days, and I know at one point I could've had it for $32, already including tax. Anyway, I'm considering either 256 or 512. I know 512 would give me more RAM and I could add another stick later for 1 GB (::faints:: ), but I also know matching memory modules, like what I'd have if I added another 256, would essentially double the bus speed from 64 bits to 128. which doesn't sound bad. (Yeah, I could eventually do that with 512 MB sticks, too, but 256 MB RAM isn't all that bad, so I think I can live with 512 and a doubled bus speed.)Let me know if there are any super-cool apps for OS X that I'm missing out on. :-)Oh, and can anyone give Windows/x86 emulator recommendations? I know of Bochs, but I need sound; I'm trying Qemu (in the form of QemuX, which includes a Cocoa front-end) and it's OK but Windows 95 install keeps failing, in varying locations each time ... so I guess I'll keep trying; and I've heard of iEmulator, but it appears to be a commercial version of Qemu. Then, of course, I know of Virtual PC from everyone's favorite company, but it's not exacly value-priced....Oh, I can't seem to install Classic. I don't have an OS 9 CD, but I also don't seem to have that "Additional Apple Software and Hardware Tests" CD or whatever it is that Classic can be installed from. I wonder if this is because my machine is refurbished. Do I have to buy OS 9 then?Anyway, all for now. And yes, I'm posting this from my Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicDragon Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Humm... the iMacs that i've seen have not been noisy at all. I'd definately check that out. Maybe it's just a little dusty or the fan has a loose screw causing it to vibrate?Anyway, CONGRATS! Aren't new toys so much fun?!For memory: I've never used Tiger, but OS 10.3 runs fine on 256. However, the more RAM the better. You will definatley see a difference. Are you looking at apple ram? I would consider buying from somewhere like crucial.com instead of apple, because apple ram is VERY expensive. Do RAM in the iMacs need to be installed in pairs? I'm almost positive RAM in the G5 Towers has to be installed in pairs, but i don't know anything about the iMacs.As for software: Check out the list at the top of this forum. There is some cool stuff in there. But, there is TONS more out there. What do you normally do on the computer? Maybe we can find an app that does what you're looking for. There are also a lot of open source ports to OS X from the UNIX side of things that are really great too. I just came across Tux Racer for OS X, which is a fun open source racing game, and X Emacs too. GIMP, Open Office, Firefox, X Chat, and Thunderbird also run on OS X. For FTP, i like CyberDuck, When i'm not using emacs for editing, SubEtha Edit is a really cool program -- especially if you have multiple people that need to edit the same file, which it does via Rendezvous. (I've never used that feature, but it looks cool )Classic should be included. What program are you trying to run? You can't really boot into classic: it will just start up within OS X when an OS 9 program needs to run. I would avoid running classic applications unless you are really attached to them. Why not find something that does the job in OS X? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 I actually was looking at RAM from Crucial--that's their prices! No, iMac G5 RAM doesn't need to be installed in pairs (in fact, there are only two slots, and Apple fills only one of them standard), but, like I said, the bus is double (128 bits) when using two matching pairs compared to two nonmatching pairs or one solo.One Windows program I use frequently is NoteWorthy Composer. There is no Mac version, but I assume there are MIDI editors and notation printers for the Mac (Igor something, Finale, and others come to mind, but I like tight integration with MIDI--ooo, and I've seen Garage Band do something with notation, but I don't know if it can be printed, or if that's a big part of the program or not...). I also use Yahoo! Messenger, and there IS a Mac version, but it's really behind the Windows one. Even running Windows 95 inside Mac OS would be OK for these two uses, as well as any other little apps I might occasionally find and want to try away from my PC.I don't really need OS 9/Classic, but I think it's fun to play around with old OS 9 apps and an OS 9-ish environment, so I'd kinda like to have it just for when I get bored. By now, everything I want is OS-X-ified, but, like I said ... it IS kinda fun. But, like I said, I have 10.3 install CDs, and no Classic on them or on the Tiger Upgrade DVD included.Super noisy most of the time (at least it's barely noticeable when the AC is running ... well, actually it's off now, and I don't think the computer is too bad, but I can definitely hear it) and no Classic are my two issues. Maybe a call to Apple is in store...PS - Does anyone know of any Apple T-shirts? My ideal one is ash gray, vintage fit with a white Apple logo in the center of the chest, nothing else. I'd settle for black with a white logo. Alas, I can seem to find one nowhere. Or bumper stickers or something? I swear, Apple is brainwashing me (every song on any iTunes/iPod commerical has become a favorite of mine, even if I didn't care for it before, like "Rich Girl" by Gwen Stefani and Eve ... and now I want to PAY to advertise them? ... but I digress). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicDragon Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) There definately is music notation software for the mac. I only know of pay/pro ones though. Maybe a google search will turn up something.But, all professional music software has a mac version. One that is supposedly very good for notation is sibelius. But, other music programs that i've heard of like Pro Tools, Reason, Sonar, Cubase, Live -- all have mac versions i think. But, they are all also pretty pricy. I bet most of them have downloadable demo's though that might keep you busy for a while :)I don't know any physical stores for apple gear, but if you google "apple shirts," there are places online that sell that kind of stuff. /me is dancing to the iPod commercials Edited July 21, 2005 by SonicDragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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