Guest LilBambi Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 I found this article on Self-Destructing DVDs:The Self-Destructing DVD (Commentary) - Motley Fool Disney and Flexplay are teaming up to produce DVDs that become unreadable two days after being opened. The "self-destructing" technology is simple yet the implications are complicated. It's not just the movie studios and the rental specialists that might profit or have to shift gears to stay profitable if the new format is a success. Rick Munarriz explains why he believes that it's a technology that won't just fade away.48 Hours on DVD isn't just another potential title in your DVD viewing library. If Disney (NYSE: DIS) and Flexplay Technologies have their way, it may also be a new way of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThunderRiver Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Yeah I read about that. But I can rip the DVD faster than it expires :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsden11 Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 I give it 30 days *before* it hits the market and it's already broken...Besides that - it's just another rental scheme. I'm not sure what people are pissy about. You "buy" the movie for a buck, and ten days later it's garbage. Big whoop. It's the same thing as renting said movie. It just ends the return hassle. It's not designed to prevent anyone from using or archiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThunderRiver Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Exactly my point. I can rip entire DVD and reecode it in SVCD or XVID in no time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFan Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 This has the potential to save Netflix a *lot* of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfProRM Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Wasn't this scheme tried a couple years ago with the original DivX??? And didn't it fail miserably??? Gee.... didn't they learn anything the first time??Edit - Okay... Actually read the whole article, and while this scheme doesn't require a separate DVD Player or even having it hooked up to the phone line, I still will be surprised if it takes off.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocBum Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 The recycling part bugs me. I'm not one of the "green" people touting off about saving the planet but this one just smells bad.Nothing more disgusting than seeing all of the AOL trial discs in my everyday life (magazines, store registers, junk mail, etc.) now you add the flexplay disc into the mix. Gross!!Sure, they offer a recycling program that requires mailing them to some address but who is going to do that????Unfortunately this meets the needs of our current culture easy distribution with someone else responsible for the clean up. I see this one sticking around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 I really think this will take off, initially due to its marketing benefits.The thing that worries me is where it might go beyond marketing its initial marketing benefits. I see some possible downsides to this technology regarding future purchases of movies, music, software, etc., a whole new licensing scheme scenario with a terrible twist.I hope not, but it would surprise me if that is not why this was REALLY created in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prelude76 Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 The recycling part bugs me. I'm not one of the "green" people touting off about saving the planet but this one just smells bad.you don't have to be a 'green' revolution fighter to still care about the planet. i hate how being an environmentalist or planet-concsious person is regarded as a bad thing these days. i'm not a member of greenpeace, but i despise people that drive SUVs or huge pick up trucks while commuting to cities to their office jobs. I also despise Disney and Flexplay for this bull** of idea. It's even worse than AOL's idea to bombard the world with throwaway CDs! Whats the benefit of this one-time use DVD? so lazy folks dont have to get up off the couch to go and return their movies? easy solution if they are that lazy. get digital cable with on-demand pay-per-view movies. it'll save you a trip to go and buy the throaway dvd in the first place! this is gonna make landfills so much more congested, because i doubt more than 10% will actually bother to mail back the DVDs.and lil' bambi, you're so right about this affecting everything down the road. its just another attempt to get Joe Q. Public to accept the fact that he can't own movies or software anymore. he can only rent them for a period of time, or sign up for 'subscription' fees that allow him to keep movies and software temporarily. if this takes off (and i think it will judging by the world's current sheep-brain mentality of being told whats good and whats bad), then it will start showing up in time-bombed computer software (winXP expires in 6 months. would u like to renew your microsoft pledge?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Article: CNNThey don't talk about any pricing plans but if the DVD only lasts two days then I can't imagine them costing the same as "normal" DVD's.If they are trying to encourage pirating while at the same time increasing non recyclable material then I think they're on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Glitch --I have merged your new topic with the existing topic on this subject. And I expanded the topic description to include your topic description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluttermagnet Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 "Right, right- I get it! Digital rights management. I have no rights. Right, I get it." (bows and genuflects, backs out of the convention hall, turns and runs like ...) "Jeez, I thought this was the LP record collectors convention. I must have made a wrong turn somewhere. People are so darned uptight in this city!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThunderRiver Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Prelude76, I don't drive SUV because it is unsafe no matter how many of you tell me otherwise My car requires premium gas only, so I can barely use standard gas.. I pay more, but I think it is worth it. Lexus saves a lot of gas anyway.The new scheme they are using right now doesn't really affect movie pirates at all. It only hurts its customers. For educational purpose, last December, I rented the movie "The Mummy" and me and my girlfriend watched it, and right afterward. I ripped it and turned it into a SVCD within less than 3 hours. So it really doesn't affect me that much. Of course, after all, I can either choose to delete the SVCD I created or keep it. Well, you guess it. I kept it in my closet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prelude76 Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 thunderriver, you're a gamer & a dvd ripper? BROTHER! how do u find your SVCD quality though? do u span across 3 disks usually?I planned a good setup whereas i have my PC in one room feeding my TV in living room thru svideo cable, so i just make DiVX 5 movies (i know Xvid is real big these days, but i feel in low light scenes, Xvid does horrible job and shows lots of artifacts). havent seen SVCD side-by-side comparison, but a good Divx5 rip is near DVD quality, usually on just one CD. ah, technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prelude76 Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 turned it into a SVCD within less than 3 hours.3 hours, eh? thats good. when i do a 2 pass encoding in Divx5, my athlon 800 takes about 10 to 14 hours to finish. but it takes just 15 minutes to throw the DVD onto a free hard drive so imy blockbuster rental is never late. what lexus do you have? if its the IS400 or SC400 (spell?), then i wanna i wanna i wanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThunderRiver Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Yeah well, I have better experience with Xvid and Divx. I ripped "The Mummy" to the hard drive in no time, and then, I proceed to encode them in Divx as well as in xivd. Each takes about 3 hours, so I actually spent about 6 hours or so on both of them. It turns out that Divx has more squre than Xvid when there are a lot of movements in the scene. Each encode is two pass, and I try to keep it under two SVCDs. I have a culculator that will tell me what bit rates I should use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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