raymac46 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Anybody here using WICD instead of the default Network Manager that comes with Gnome? I have had a lot of problems with my Atheros wifi card lately (ath9k driver) and from what I have read it's a Network Manager bug. I get random disconnects and have to switch off wifi and switch it back on to reconnect. I have installed WICD and removed Network Manager from my LM 18.1 system and we'll see how it goes. This is for a desktop which doesn't go anywhere and only uses wifi on one network because it's a PITA to get a cable down here from the router. I sorta miss the old days when you had to configure wpa-supplicant manually and have a startup script for the dhcp daemon. I guess you can still do that with Arch Linux although it works through systemd I believe. So far things are OK with WICD. I'll keep an eye on things for a few days. Edited January 30, 2017 by raymac46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Well its been a little while ago but wicd was my go to application for wireless connections before I started using netctl's wifi-menu. I'll sometimes use wicd on setups with a taskbar as it is easy to switch between various networks without having to open up a terminal. For wired, I do sort of like you mentioned...running commands one after another but as a systemd service: [unit] Description=Wired Static IP Connectivity Wants=network.target Before=network.target [service] Type=oneshot RemainAfterExit=yes EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/network ExecStart=/sbin/ip link set dev enp4s0 up ExecStart=/sbin/ip addr add 192.168.1.2/24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 dev enp4s0 ExecStart=/sbin/ip route add default via 192.168.1.1 ExecStop=/sbin/ip addr flush dev enp4s0 ExecStop=/sbin/ip link set dev enp3s0 down [install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I guess the same thing could be done for a wireless network too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 I've been up with wicd for a while now and no problems. A bit early to conclude anything - we'll see how my grandson does with Web video games later on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I used to use WICD, but when I started using a VPN, I had to go back to NetworkManager because WICD doesn't support OpenVPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I also found my Atheros USB wifi to sometimes be unreliable using Network Manager, although it seems OK with my latest MX-16 install so I haven't purged it yet. Best results were when I configured it manually in /etc/network/interfaces. It's a desktop so only one AP to configure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon James Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I use WICD as a substitute for LXDE's Network Manager. NM works fine, but lxpanel is weird with a system tray applet, so it "disappears" on me sometimes. But I can keep an application there with no issues whatsoever. Plus WICD shows me wifi AND Ethernet info, so I end up replacing 2 icons with 1 that works better and is more versatile. +1 for WICD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Well grandson had about an hour playing Dinosaur Train and pronounced it AOK so I guess I can stick with WICD for now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Now my six year old granddaughter did some beta testing for me with WICD - no problem at all. I think I have a good solution. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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raymac46 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Well it was a nice thought. I started getting some problems connecting with WICD and discovered that I still had a competing remnant of Network Manager (nm-applet) installed. If I remove that I also remove the Cinnamon desktop - Network Manager applet is a hard dependency of Cinnamon. So unless I want to go with Xfce or Mate I'll have to stick with Network Manager I guess. Back on Network Manager for now. I'll see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Crow Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Ah! shure Xfce is boss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Ray, what distribution are you using on this machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon desktop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Well it was a nice thought. I started getting some problems connecting with WICD and discovered that I still had a competing remnant of Network Manager (nm-applet) installed. If I remove that I also remove the Cinnamon desktop - Network Manager applet is a hard dependency of Cinnamon. So unless I want to go with Xfce or Mate I'll have to stick with Network Manager I guess. Back on Network Manager for now. I'll see how it goes. Why not simply disable the network manager service and stop nm-applet from loading at startup? You do not need to remove them to disable them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 I'll give it some thought. I'll have to figure out how to kill nm-applet when the system starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon desktop. Ah... OK. I was going to say that you could disable NetworkManager by changing permissions in /etc/init.d, but that ain't gonna' work in systemd. You'll have to see if Josh or Roger knows how to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 As root or sudo: systemctl stop NetworkManager && systemctl disable NetworkManager 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 There you go. Even though I had experimented with systemd back when I was running Arch, I've forgotten all that spiffy stuff. I'll have to relearn it when Slackware goes to systemd. Fortunately, Pat V. has said that we will be tossing snowballs in Hades when that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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raymac46 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 I think I may have found the solution to my wifi issues and it has nothing to do with WICD or Network Manager or Linux Mint. I have a range extender gadget in the basement near my desktop. I set it up on a different LAN (say LAN1) to the router (LAN0) just to keep track of it. Network Manager was set to automatically connect to either network and "hunted" back and forth between them - dropping the connection as it did so. I have set the wifi settings on the computer to automatically connect to LAN1 and NOT to LAN0. So far it's been very stable. Often the problem exists between the chair and the monitor. :'( 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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