Frank Golden Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 (edited) Hi All, Just installed Zenwalk Linux on my all Linux hard drive dual boot with Ubuntu.Zenwalk is a Slackware variant. Everything works exceptmy Creative SB Audigy 2 NX external sound card. Below is my lsusb output.root[~]# lsusbBus 008 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 007 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 001 Device 004: ID 046d:c51a Logitech, Inc.Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 005 Device 006: ID 03f0:b402 Hewlett-PackardBus 005 Device 005: ID 041e:3020 Creative Technology, Ltd SoundBlaster Audigy 2 NXBus 005 Device 010: ID 046d:c50e Logitech, Inc. MX-1000 Cordless Mouse ReceiverBus 005 Device 009: ID 2001:f103 D-Link Corp. [hex]Bus 005 Device 008: ID 050d:0234 Belkin Components F5U234 USB 2.0 4-Port HubBus 005 Device 007: ID 05e3:0604 Genesys Logic, Inc.Bus 005 Device 004: ID 046d:0892 Logitech, Inc.Bus 005 Device 003: ID 050d:0237 Belkin ComponentsBus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000root[~]#The red I added for clarity.Zenwalk uses Alsa but it doesn't recognize my Audigy.It does see my Intel internal sound device.Where do I go from here?BTW, The folks at the Zenwalk forums don't appear to be interested, so here I am.Bruno, Help!! Edited September 8, 2006 by Frank Golden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross549 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Does alsaconf turn anything up?Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Does alsaconf turn anything up?AdamYep . . I'd vote for alsaconf too Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 (edited) Does alsaconf turn anything up?Adamfrankgolden[~]$ alsaconfbash: alsaconf: command not foundfrankgolden[~]$Nopefrankgolden[~]$ alsaconfigbash: alsaconfig: command not foundfrankgolden[~]$Nada Edited September 8, 2006 by Frank Golden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryB Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Hey FrankYou will need to run alsaconf as root. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 (edited) Need to run alsaconf as rootThis is what I was going to suggest also. I'm in Zenwalk right now and it worked fine;#suPassword:#alsaconf That's all it took!From bruno's tutorial; As you login as “root” right from booting the system, all the privileges are set to root, what makes your system more vulnerable to your own mistakes and those wishing to enter your system.As you login as normal user, the privileges are limited, thus it´s safer. To be able to do administrative tasks you can temporally login as root using “su” in a console/terminal, that way the root privileges are limited to the actions you do in the console ( and the applications you start from the console ). So the rest of the system is still in “normal user” mode, and this makes it safer.We do use the same password for “su” and “root”, but once you are logged in as normal user, typing “root” in console/terminal will only give you “bash: root: command not found”. Edited September 8, 2006 by réjean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 Ok got into alsaconf only shows hda-intel my internal sound card. This is already configured.there is another entry "Legacy-probe Legacy ISA (non PnP) chips".Choosing this option returns no chips detected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Hi FrankI see there is a new realease: http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=16355Maybe that one works better ?? Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 Hi FrankI see there is a new realease: http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=16355Maybe that one works better ?? BrunoHi Bruno, Same thing in version 3.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Hi Bruno, Same thing in version 3.0This is getting real frustrating. Zenwalk "sees" my Audigy 2 but Alsa doesn't.There has to be something elemental involved here. Ubuntu work with this card fine. And to top it off the AlsaProject site appears to be offline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Hi FrankLooks like Zenwalk does not use the latest Alsa . . . . . that is all I can think of.:'( Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Hi FrankLooks like Zenwalk does not use the latest Alsa . . . . . that is all I can think of.:'( BrunoNope. The latest ALSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 And libalsa-data, alsa-tools, alsa-utils, libalsa2 all those are installed too ? ( and if zenwalk is using Gnome: gstreamer-alsa )Also are the USB modules loaded ( lsmod && lsusb ):'( Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 (edited) And libalsa-data, alsa-tools, alsa-utils, libalsa2 all those are installed too ? ( and if zenwalk is using Gnome: gstreamer-alsa )Also are the USB modules loaded ( lsmod && lsusb ):'( Brunoalsa-utils is installed the repositories have nothing for the rest.Output of lsmod&&lsusbroot[~]# lsmod && lsusbModule Size Used byfglrx 340460 8rtc 6580 0snd_seq_oss 19200 0snd_seq_midi_event 3456 1 snd_seq_osssnd_seq 29264 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_eventsnd_pcm_oss 25376 0snd_mixer_oss 10752 3 snd_pcm_ossxt_tcpudp 2176 1iptable_mangle 1408 0ip_conntrack_ftp 3824 0xt_state 1280 3iptable_nat 3460 0ip_nat 8492 1 iptable_natip_conntrack 25056 4 ip_conntrack_ftp,xt_state,iptable_nat,ip_natiptable_filter 1408 1ip_tables 8420 3 iptable_mangle,iptable_nat,iptable_filterx_tables 6148 4 xt_tcpudp,xt_state,iptable_nat,ip_tablesvfat 6784 1fat 30108 1 vfatnls_iso8859_1 3456 3ntfs 165652 2video 9732 0thermal 7304 0processor 14052 1 thermalfuse 21768 0fan 2180 0button 3344 0battery 5764 0ac 2308 0usblp 7808 0usb_storage 49600 0snd_usb_audio 41824 1snd_usb_lib 8192 1 snd_usb_audiosnd_rawmidi 11168 1 snd_usb_libsnd_seq_device 3596 3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidisnd_hwdep 3972 1 snd_usb_audiosnd_hda_intel 8340 1ohci_hcd 12548 0snd_hda_codec 99888 1 snd_hda_intelpcmcia 18840 0intel_agp 12572 1evdev 5376 0joydev 5696 0sg 18332 0ehci_hcd 18952 0snd_pcm 45572 4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_ codecsnd_timer 11908 2 snd_seq,snd_pcmsnd 26596 12 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,s nd_usb_audio,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,sn d_pcm,snd_timersoundcore 3936 3 sndsnd_page_alloc 4616 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcmtsdev 3776 0agpgart 16332 2 fglrx,intel_agptg3 77700 0ohci1394 21936 0ieee1394 250584 1 ohci1394uhci_hcd 13580 0yenta_socket 14476 2rsrc_nonstatic 5376 1 yenta_socketpcmcia_core 19992 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstaticBus 007 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 008 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c51a Logitech, Inc.Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000Bus 005 Device 006: ID 03f0:b402 Hewlett-PackardBus 005 Device 010: ID 046d:c50e Logitech, Inc. MX-1000 Cordless Mouse ReceiverBus 005 Device 005: ID 041e:3020 Creative Technology, Ltd SoundBlaster Audigy 2 NXBus 005 Device 009: ID 2001:f103 D-Link Corp. [hex]Bus 005 Device 008: ID 050d:0234 Belkin Components F5U234 USB 2.0 4-Port HubBus 005 Device 007: ID 05e3:0604 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 1.1 HubBus 005 Device 004: ID 046d:0892 Logitech, Inc.Bus 005 Device 003: ID 050d:0237 Belkin ComponentsBus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Maybe you can make sense of this output. Edited September 9, 2006 by Frank Golden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Maybe you can make sense of this output. Yep I can . . . and I see it is all there, the correct modules for the USB are loaded, the "lsusb" shows the device and even the sound-drivers for the SoundBlaster Audigy 2 NX are loaded . . . . I mean, you could be forgiven for thinking all works perfectly well . . . . Any "mute" button somewhere you forgot to uncheck ? . . is there any joy from "aumix -q" ?? Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onederer Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 ~<snip> The red I added for clarity.Zenwalk uses Alsa but it doesn't recognize my Audigy.It does see my Intel internal sound device.Where do I go from here?BTW, The folks at the Zenwalk forums don't appear to be interested, so here I am.Bruno, Help!!I can see where you're coming from with the Zenwalk forums. I got flamed for just asking for information about the new Zenwalk distro. I was not asking for help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 (edited) ~<snip>I can see where you're coming from with the Zenwalk forums. I got flamed for just asking for information about the new Zenwalk distro. I was not asking for help.Yeah I don't sense any "love" there either. I think they look down on newbies and Ubuntu users.Yep I can . . . and I see it is all there, the correct modules for the USB are loaded, the "lsusb" shows the device and even the sound-drivers for the SoundBlaster Audigy 2 NX are loaded . . . . I mean, you could be forgiven for thinking all works perfectly well . . . . Any "mute" button somewhere you forgot to uncheck ? . . is there any joy from "aumix -q" ?? BrunoNo mute button, but alsa hasn't even offered to configure my Audigy, ever.I believe the below output is for my onboard sound.root[~]# aumix -qvol 74, 74line 0, 0mic 0, 0igain 0, 0dig1 0, 0root[~]# alsaconfig doesn't offer my Audigy as an option.I suspect I need to somehow force alsa to recognize my Audigy.I wish the alsa project web site was back online. Edited September 9, 2006 by Frank Golden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Hi FrankMaybe have a look at the "alsactl" tool and see if it can generate a list of available device names. # alsactl names# cat /etc/asound.names And see if the card is mentionedAlso read "man alsactl" ;) BrunoPS: Yeah I don't sense any "love" there either. I think they look down on newbies and Ubuntu users. Maybe Zenwalk is just not ready for prime time and they are to busy to hide that fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Hi FrankMaybe have a look at the "alsactl" tool and see if it can generate a list of available device names. # alsactl names# cat /etc/asound.names And see if the card is mentionedAlso read "man alsactl" ;) BrunoPS: Maybe Zenwalk is just not ready for prime time and they are to busy to hide that fact root[frankgolden]# alsactl namesroot[frankgolden]# cat /etc/asound.namesctl { alsactl1 { name hw:0 comment 'Physical Device - HDA Intel at 0xc8000000 irq 21' } alsactl2 { name hw:1 comment 'Physical Device - Creative Technology Ltd SB Audigy 2 N X at usb-0000:00:1d.7-2.1, high speed' }}pcm { alsactl1 { name default:0 comment 'Abstract Device - Default Device (Duplex)' } alsactl2 { name plug:default:0 comment 'Abstract Device With Conversions - Default Device (Dupl ex)' } alsactl3 { name front:0 comment 'Abstract Device - Front Speakers (Duplex)' } alsactl4 { name plug:front:0 comment 'Abstract Device With Conversions - Front Speakers (Dupl ex)' } alsactl5 { name 'hw:0,0' comment 'Physical Device - ALC882 Analog (Duplex)' } alsactl6 { name 'plughw:0,0' comment 'Physical Device With Conversions - ALC882 Analog (Duple x)' } alsactl7 { name 'hw:0,1' comment 'Physical Device - ALC882 Analog (Capture)' } alsactl8 { name 'plughw:0,1' comment 'Physical Device With Conversions - ALC882 Analog (Captu re)' } alsactl9 { name 'hw:0,2' comment 'Physical Device - ALC882 Digital (Playback)' } alsactl10 { name 'plughw:0,2' comment 'Physical Device With Conversions - ALC882 Digital (Play back)' } alsactl11 { name surround40:0 comment 'Abstract Device - Front and Rear Speakers (Duplex)' } alsactl12 { name plug:surround40:0 comment 'Abstract Device With Conversions - Front and Rear Speak ers (Duplex)' } alsactl13 { name surround51:0 comment 'Abstract Device - Front, Rear, Center and Woofer (Duple x)' } alsactl14 { name plug:surround51:0 comment 'Abstract Device With Conversions - Front, Rear, Center and Woofer (Duplex)' } alsactl15 { name surround71:0 comment 'Abstract Device - Front, Rear, Side, Center and Woofer (Duplex)' } alsactl16 { name plug:surround71:0 comment 'Abstract Device With Conversions - Front, Rear, Side, C enter and Woofer (Duplex)' } alsactl17 { name default:1 comment 'Abstract Device - Default Device (Duplex)' } alsactl18 { name plug:default:1 comment 'Abstract Device With Conversions - Default Device (Dupl ex)' } alsactl19 { name 'hw:1,0' comment 'Physical Device - USB Audio (Duplex)' } alsactl20 { name 'plughw:1,0' comment 'Physical Device With Conversions - USB Audio (Duplex)' }}rawmidi { alsactl1 { name virtual comment 'Virtual Device - Sequencer (Duplex)' } alsactl2 { name 'virtual:MERGE=0' comment 'Virtual Device - Sequencer (No Merge) (Duplex)' }}timer { alsactl1 { name 'hw:CLASS=1,SCLASS=0,CARD=-1,DEV=0,SUBDEV=0' comment 'Physical Device - system timer' }}seq { alsactl1 { name default comment 'Default Device - Sequencer (Duplex)' } alsactl2 { name hw comment 'Physical Device - Sequencer (Duplex)' }}root[frankgolden]# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Okay . . here is a wild guess . . . not sure at all if this will do any good at all: # alsactl -F restore hw:1 Does the sound work now from the Audigy ? Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Okay . . here is a wild guess . . . not sure at all if this will do any good at all: # alsactl -F restore hw:1 Does the sound work now from the Audigy ? Bruno Tried that while reading the mansee output below. No goroot[~]# alsactl -F restore hw:1alsactl: load_state:1250: Cannot find soundcard 'hw:1'...root[~]#How can a program report the existence and location of a device and thensay it can't find it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 How can a program report the existence and location of a device and thensay it can't find it? Dunno Frank . . I am starting to loose faith in Zenwalk, I had a look at: http://distrowatch.com/index.php?distribut...ll&year=all and it looks like there is a new version of this distro every 2 months, not really a sign of a "stable" distro . . . . . ( apparently it used to be "Mini-Slack" and they changed to Zen a year ago ) . . . I would simply classify it as buggy ! Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 (edited) Dunno Frank . . I am starting to loose faith in Zenwalk, I had a look at: http://distrowatch.com/index.php?distribut...ll&year=all and it looks like there is a new version of this distro every 2 months, not really a sign of a "stable" distro . . . . . ( apparently it used to be "Mini-Slack" and they changed to Zen a year ago ) . . . I would simply classify it as buggy ! BrunoI think you may be right Bruno. I am about ready to chuck it and reclaim HDD space.The nice thing about Ubuntu is how polished and complete it is. It is almost readymade for my hardware. I think to paraphrase what you said earlier <this distro is not ready for prime timeand the devs don't even suspect it>If you look at the dates at distro watch there is only 5 days between version 2.8 and 3.0 Edited September 9, 2006 by Frank Golden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryB Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 FrankI opened a shoutcast file with xmms, than opened "Start>>>multimedia>>volume control>>and toggled the mute off on and my sound srated working...(now my card is an ESS Allegro..so I'm not sure if this will help) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 FrankI opened a shoutcast file with xmms, than opened "Start>>>multimedia>>volume control>>and toggled the mute off on and my sound srated working...(now my card is an ESS Allegro..so I'm not sure if this will help)Hi Barry,I have sound from my internal sound card only.Alsa don't even see my external sound card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryB Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Yea, Big difference there..I don't have an external to test with so..I guess Zen may not be what your looking for...sorry, It does have a pretty clean look...But ubuntu is a good choice too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcturus Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Wild shot here but have you tried *disabling* onboard sound in bios so Zenisn't confused about multiple sound cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Wild shot here but have you tried *disabling* onboard sound in bios so Zenisn't confused about multiple sound cards?I don't have that capability in BIOS. But I did blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklistand finally got sound after rebooting. I had to run alsaconf after which my Audigy worked.However Asla still sees it as snd-hda-intel however and I have to manually run alsaconfon start up. Because this is a laptop keeping it on all the time is not an option.I don't know about Zen being confused but I sure am.Ubuntu used to give me fits when I first started playing around with it. It wouldalternate between one card and the other in no particular patternand refused to use my Audigy 2 for web based audio like Pandora.I stumbled on blacklisting the onboard sound and that fixed Ubuntu.Ubuntu does however without fail configure my Audigy 2 at every boot.If I could get Zen to do the same I'd be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Golden Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Dunno Frank . . I am starting to loose faith in Zenwalk, I had a look at: http://distrowatch.com/index.php?distribut...ll&year=all and it looks like there is a new version of this distro every 2 months, not really a sign of a "stable" distro . . . . . ( apparently it used to be "Mini-Slack" and they changed to Zen a year ago ) . . . I would simply classify it as buggy ! BrunoUpdate: partial success. Added blacklist entry in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to blacklistmy internal soundcard. On reboot I reran alsaconf and got card to work.Here's the strange part Alsa thinks my Audigy 2 is the intel card and refersto it as snd-hda-intel like it did when it was configuring my internal card before.It needs reconfiguring on reboot however, hence partial success. Again,Ubuntu is much more refined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Glad to see at last a bit of progress here Frank ! Well done ! Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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