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Posted 13 May 2003 - 01:09 AM

As I know that most of you have never experienced the power of Windows Preinstallation Environment, you can check it out hereWell, simply put, it is the best BootCD (well, it is a boot disk that boots the bare OS based on Windows XP kernel on a little CD-ROM). The whole image only takes about less than 150 Mb, and that alone can do everything you could have dreamt off when you troubleshoot your system. Here is the a short list of features that gives you some ideas of what Win PE can actually do.1. It boots off straight off the CD to load the OS, and it is entirely GUI based though initially shows only command prompt window (it even enable your mouse device on start up)2. It is the ultimate replacement for Recovery Console because it lets you executes everything, even programs with GUI! One of the scary scenario with WinPE (which is probably the reason why MS decided now to release it to public) is that you can copy the sam files off the Windows direcotry and crack all the passwords! For those  that tried to crack Windows passwords before should know that there is no way you could copy sam files off to another location unless you are in Linux and so on, but WinPE does everything with breeze! Try it yourself3. It comes with Internet Connectivity, so if you are LAN, you will be automatically assigned an IP just like you are running an normal/regular OS.4. Great tool for troubleshoot! Since it comes with Internet connectivity, you can transfer files from your machine to another using FTP clients (FTP clients not included, but you could install WS_FTP and etc)5. It is FREE! The Windows Preinstallation Environment was originally released to OEM manufacturer ONLY, and now you can create it using Bart's PE builder for free of charge! :)6. It is the default setup wizard for the next generation of Windows Longhorn, which takes about 15 min to installFYI, before Bart's PEBuilder, my copy of original Windows PE saved my life (my computer) many many times before. All thanks to its Internet connectivity feature!Here is a sample screenshot based on Bart's PE builder:Posted Image

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 01:20 AM

On the side note, the possibility with WinPE is quite broad. Use your imagination! When your laptop/desktop is totally down (because Xp crashed), and when your data are stuck on the hard drive, WinPE comes in rescue :)The original authentic WinPE from Microsoft looks like thisPosted Image

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 02:08 AM

Here's the link to Bart's PE Builder.  :D

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 02:31 AM

Oh oops.. lol I have been soo excited to talk about WinPE.. and forgot about the link  :D

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 08:18 AM

you mean to say i no longer need a dual-boot Win98 installation and keep all drives as FAT32 just so i can boot into my dead XP system?  D***!  that's a nice tool  :P

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 08:24 AM

wait a minute....  i read up on it...  it still requires everything to be typed in Command window, and you can;t start explorer.exe ??what gives?a common scenario is my XP is so trashed, i decide to copy all files to other partition that I might need, like Mozilla settings, and other settings that are usually buried in Windows or Documents & Settings folders.  I'd still have to copy those files by command prompt?  ack! :P have u tried using a 3rd party GUI file manager?

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 10:51 AM

Prelude76, on May 13 2003, 07:18 AM, said:

you mean to say i no longer need a dual-boot Win98 installation and keep all drives as FAT32 just so i can boot into my dead XP system?  D***!  that's a nice tool  :)
Well, exactly. You probably then need Windows 98 to play game?Also, one drawback in Windows PE is that Microsoft made it so that it will reboot automatically after 24 hours. They obviously don't want you to use it as primary OS..although it would be nice to run a BlackBox all the way :)Bart said people need to patch 4 bytes out of "a" file.. I would love to find out which file it is. Heh

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 10:54 AM

Prelude76, on May 13 2003, 07:24 AM, said:

wait a minute....  i read up on it...  it still requires everything to be typed in Command window, and you can;t start explorer.exe ??what gives?a common scenario is my XP is so trashed, i decide to copy all files to other partition that I might need, like Mozilla settings, and other settings that are usually buried in Windows or Documents & Settings folders.  I'd still have to copy those files by command prompt?  ack! :) have u tried using a 3rd party GUI file manager?
Yes, I believe Windows Commander can do what you desire..copy files from one folder to another one the same machine..with GUI interface of course.xcopy is a good command too.One thing that makes it so hard to compile a PE for yourself is because1. it requires you to install SP1 on your Windows Xp2. it requires you to slipstream SP1 into your original Xp CD. Not that it is very difficult, but someone I feel most people don't really do it and leave the job to IT3. nothing more..it just takes time to build.. :)Finally, one of your misconceptions is that it doesn't run explorer.exe It is true that it doesn't because it doesn't have that shell program in the CD..but if lets say your CDrom drive letter is D: and you boot WinPE off D: and your Windows Xp partition is in C:\You can just go to C:\Windows\and type in explorer.exe  the shell should show up immediately. It is just that simple. I was able to run Internet Explorer off WinPE, but what's the point? It doesn't really give you the ability to ajust the screen resolution, but you can hack it though. Another thing I often do with WinPE is to hack to registry on the target system. I can just load up the hive, and start hacking. It is really nice because if you reboot into that target Windows XP, it doesn't know that its registry has been modified :)ThunderRiver

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Posted 13 May 2003 - 04:53 PM

bart's page says you need nero to burn the iso image. does win xp sp1 have a way to make an iso image? (yes, there is a cd-r on the pc...) :blink:
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Posted 13 May 2003 - 06:44 PM

Temmu, on May 13 2003, 01:53 PM, said:

bart's page says you need nero to burn the iso image. does win xp sp1 have a way to make an iso image? (yes, there is a cd-r on the pc...) :blink:
No, WinXP does not have the native ability to burn an ISO image to disk, but you can try this utility:http://isorecorder.a...isorecorder.htm

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Posted 14 May 2003 - 06:16 PM

Temmu, on May 13 2003, 03:53 PM, said:

bart's page says you need nero to burn the iso image. does win xp sp1 have a way to make an iso image? (yes, there is a cd-r on the pc...) B)
I believe there was a Microsoft PowerToy that lets you burn ISO image for FREE of course :D

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Posted 15 May 2003 - 10:29 AM

thx - downloaded ISORECORDER.  ;)sorry, doesn't seem to be an xp power toy for this...  :ph34r:
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Posted 15 May 2003 - 02:45 PM

The WinPE tool ships on the Win2K3 Server CD-ROMs.i386 - 140 Megs on disk. 40MB in memory.IA64 - 220 Megs on disk. 42MB in memory.You can burn the iso on any machine with the proper hardware and software.

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Posted 15 May 2003 - 09:18 PM

Marsden11, on May 15 2003, 01:45 PM, said:

The WinPE tool ships on the Win2K3 Server CD-ROMs.i386 - 140 Megs on disk. 40MB in memory.IA64 - 220 Megs on disk. 42MB in memory.You can burn the iso on any machine with the proper hardware and software.
It does? Which CD? I have Enterpries Edition with Resources CD..and yet I can't find anything that says Windows PE.Now I do have Windows 2003 OPK as well, but that's not PE standalone

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Posted 16 May 2003 - 03:17 AM

Your right... I was mistaken. I had heard it was in Deploy.cabTurns out it is... Windows Preinstallation Environment (Windows PE, also known as WinPE)is licensed to original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) for use in preinstalling Windows onto new computers. The Windows PE forCorporations toolkit is available for enterprise customers. For more information, contact your account manager.Sorry for the confusion.

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Posted 16 May 2003 - 05:35 AM

eksimba, on May 13 2003, 06:44 PM, said:

Temmu, on May 13 2003, 01:53 PM, said:

bart's page says you need nero to burn the iso image. does win xp sp1 have a way to make an iso image? (yes, there is a cd-r on the pc...) B)
No, WinXP does not have the native ability to burn an ISO image to disk, but you can try this utility:http://isorecorder.a...isorecorder.htm
Thanks for the link.  I am going to have to try this one this afternoon.  It sure was a quick download.  Now if someone like me can just get it to work right!
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Posted 16 May 2003 - 07:46 PM

Well, let me know if you have successfully compiled your own copy of WinPE..if you encounter any problems, let me know. I will be glad to help; however, most of the stuff are quite self-explanatory :unsure:

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Posted 16 May 2003 - 08:13 PM

EskimbaThanks for the link on the ISO recorder.  That sure did work great.  Even someone like me could get that to work.
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Posted 23 May 2003 - 10:36 PM

IT'S GONE!Microsoft got angry and "asked" Bart to pull the link.  Anyone know where else to grab this?  I wasn't able to get a copy  :)
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Posted 23 May 2003 - 11:42 PM

Mm..oops should have thought it coming. If anyone still have an archive of it, PM me about it, and we will arrange something so that I can host it myself heh.Server powered by University of Michigan..for educational purpose..surely MS can shoot email to me about it ;)ThunderRiver

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Posted 24 May 2003 - 12:00 AM

I should have too. I KNOW that M$ wasn't going to let him do that.  Oh well.  No big deal.  I have a copy of the real PE.  Would have been nice to play with bart's.
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Posted 24 May 2003 - 08:24 AM

Mm..how did you get it?

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Posted 24 May 2003 - 08:31 AM

I am a system builder.  It comes in every 3 pack of Microsoft OEM XP as part of the OPK.  (OEM Preinstallation Kit)
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Posted 24 May 2003 - 10:37 AM

ahh is it newer version? Or still the same old interface I post in the beginning of thread? The same version? Is there a SP1 version of it? I am only holding the original copy without SP1.

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Posted 24 May 2003 - 05:24 PM

I'm not sure I follow you about a service pack but the PE disk hasn't changed.  To do what it does I'm not sure it would need to.  Its purpose is to aid in the install of windows over a network.
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