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#26 OFFLINE   b2cm

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 10:51 AM

I'm more concerned with those "glitches and crackles". Does that still happen? As for the processor, that is probably because there are also other programs or services running in the background. I don't think of it as a problem, unless some malware is causing it.I also believe the processor isn't a problem, uless you want better performance. A comparison between Celeron and Pentium4:Celeron 2.8ghz    vs.   Pentium4 2.8 HT-128kb 2-way   vs.      512kb 8-way-100MHz FSB (400MHz quad-pumped) vs. 200MHz FSB (800MHz quad-pumped)-3.2 GB/s bandwidth vs 6.4 GB/s-No hyperthreading vs. hyperthreading

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 02:44 PM

b2cm, on Apr 10 2005, 09:51 AM, said:

I'm more concerned with those "glitches and crackles". Does that still happen?

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hi,yep , ive unticked SOUNDMAN from msconfig, disabled avg and zonealaarm and removed network cable to restart.again the same problem!!! ARGH!!! still glitches and pops, but not when i first start up! the mbd does have onboard graphics card as well (looking at the spec!). i'm not sure if this is disabled or how to do it!. do i need to do this too.?QUOTE-"As for the processor, that is probably because there are also other programs or services running in the background. I don't think of it as a problem, unless some malware is causing it."i also believe there isnt a problem with the processors speed too, as before the cpu goes 'funny' the songs in cubase and fruityloops play really well without any glitches or pops! i think thats how the comp would behave normally if there wasnt a problem somewhere. the problem occurs at different times after initial startup and ther arent other programes running as far as i can see when this happens? or is there something that starts to run that i dont know about?ps-when i say glitches and pops , what i mean is the normal audio 'stutters' i used to get on my really old computer (P2!) when it couldnt cope with the audio. as a longstanding computor music maker i know these glitches are this and no problems with connections or earthings etc.thanks for your ongoing supporttrev

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 03:03 PM

hmmmm. read this. ?could be this.... will try plug in out if i can work it  ;)

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 04:16 PM

trevbushell, on Apr 10 2005, 12:44 PM, said:

hi,yep , ive unticked SOUNDMAN from msconfig, disabled avg and zonealaarm and removed network cable to restart.again the same problem!!! ARGH!!! still glitches and pops, but not when i first start up! the mbd does have onboard graphics card as well (looking at the spec!). i'm not sure if this is disabled or how to do it!. do i need to do this too.?<snip>ps-when i say glitches and pops , what i mean is the normal audio 'stutters' i used to get on my really old computer (P2!) when it couldnt cope with the audio. as a longstanding computor music maker i know these glitches are this and no problems with connections or earthings etc.thanks for your ongoing supporttrev

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Is the following statement correct?The glitches and pops occur only while the CPU is maxed out.If you don't see the it listed in the Display Adapters section of Device Manager, the onboard video is already disabled.At this point, I agree with b2cm that you need to find the realtek  .inf file and delete (or better yet rename) the listed driver files. The realtek .inf file should be located in the c:\windows\inf folder. I don't know what the file name will be. "Realtek" may or may not be in the file name. It would probably be a good idea to post a copy of the realtek .inf file here so that we can double check that you've found the right file.

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 04:54 PM

rbdietz, on Apr 10 2005, 03:16 PM, said:

Is the following statement correct?The glitches and pops occur only while the CPU is maxed out.

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YES, only glitches when the cpu is maxed out. B)  otherwise perfect audiodid a search for realtek drivers, nothing. also i looked in the drivers section in everest hers the results see anything?Abiosdsk         Abiosdsk                                                                                                       Kernel Driver                   Stopped    abp480n5         abp480n5                                                                                                       Kernel Driver                   Stopped    ACPI             Microsoft ACPI Driver                                                   ACPI.sys              5.1.2600.1106    Kernel Driver                   Running    ACPIEC           ACPIEC                                                                                                         Kernel Driver                   Stopped    adpu160m         adpu160m                                                                                                       Kernel Driver                   Stopped    aec              Microsoft Kernel Acoustic Echo Canceller                                aec.sys               5.1.2601.1095    Kernel Driver                   Stopped    AFD              AFD Networking Support Environment                                      afd.sys               5.1.2600.1106    Kernel Driver                   Running    Aha154x          Aha154x                                                                                                        Kernel Driver                   Stopped    aic78u2          aic78u2                                                                                                        Kernel Driver                   Stopped    aic78xx          aic78xx                                                                                                        Kernel Driver                   Stopped    ALCXSENS         Service for WDM 3D Audio Driver                                         ALCXSENS.SYS                           Kernel Driver                   Stopped    ALCXWDM          Service for Realtek AC97 Audio (WDM)                                    ALCXWDM.SYS                            Kernel Driver                   Stopped   DOES THIS NEED DELETING? AliIde           AliIde                                                                                                         Kernel Driver                   Stopped    amsint           amsint                                                                                                         Kernel Driver                   Stopped    asc              asc                                                                                                            Kernel Driver                   Stopped    asc3350p         asc3350p                                                                                                       Kernel Driver                   Stopped    asc3550          asc3550                                                                                                        Kernel Driver                   Stopped    AsyncMac         RAS Asynchronous Media Driver                                           asyncmac.sys          5.1.2600.0       Kernel Driver                   Stopped    atapi            Standard IDE/ESDI Hard Disk Controller                                  atapi.sys             5.1.2600.1106    Kernel Driver                   Running    Atdisk           Atdisk                                                                                                         Kernel Driver                   Stopped    Atmarpc          ATM ARP Client Protocol                                                 atmarpc.sys           5.1.2600.0       Kernel Driver                   Stopped    audstub          Audio Stub Driver                                                       audstub.sys           5.1.2600.0       Kernel Driver                   Running    Avg7Core         AVG7 Kernel                                                             avg7core.sys          7.1.0.308        Kernel Driver                   Running    Avg7RsW          AVG7 Wrap Driver                                                        avg7rsw.sys           7.1.0.285        Kernel Driver                   Running    Avg7RsXP         AVG7 Rezident Driver                                                    avg7rsxp.sys          7.1.0.307        Kernel Driver                   Running    AvgTdi           AVG Network Redirector                                                  avgtdi.sys            7.1.0.285        Kernel Driver                   Running    Beep             Beep                                                                                                           Kernel Driver                   Running    cbidf2k          cbidf2k                                                                                                        Kernel Driver                   Stopped    cd20xrnt         cd20xrnt                                                                                                       Kernel Driver                   Stopped    Cdaudio          Cdaudio                                                                                                        Kernel Driver                   Stopped    Cdfs             Cdfs                                                                                                           File System Driver              Running    Cdrom            CD-ROM Driver                                                           cdrom.sys             5.1.2600.1106    Kernel Driver                   Running    Changer          Changer                                                                                                        Kernel Driver                   Stopped    CmdIde           CmdIde                                                                                                         Kernel Driver                   Stopped    Cpqarray         Cpqarray                                                                                                       Kernel Driver                   Stopped    ctac32k          Creative AC3 Software Decoder                                           ctac32k.sys           5.12.1.381       Kernel Driver                   Stopped    ctaud2k          Creative Audio Driver (WDM)                                             ctaud2k.sys           5.12.1.382       Kernel Driver                   Stopped    ctljystk         Creative SBLive! 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sisidex.sys           5.1.2600.0       File System Driver              Running    SiSkp            SiSkp                                                                   srvkp.sys             6.14.10.3600     Kernel Driver                   Running    SISNIC           SiS PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver                                    sisnic.sys            1.16.0.0         Kernel Driver                   Running    sisperf          Add Performance Filter Driver                                           sisperf.sys           2.2.3.0          Kernel Driver                   Running    Sparrow          Sparrow                                                                                                        Kernel Driver                   Stopped    splitter         Microsoft Kernel Audio Splitter                                         splitter.sys          5.1.2600.1106    Kernel Driver                   Stopped    sr               System Restore Filter 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Stopped    symc810          symc810                                                                                                        Kernel Driver                   Stopped    symc8xx          symc8xx                                                                                                        Kernel Driver                   Stopped    sysaudio         Microsoft Kernel System Audio Device                                    sysaudio.sys          5.1.2600.1106    Kernel Driver                   Running    Tcpip            TCP/IP Protocol Driver                                                  tcpip.sys             5.1.2600.1106    Kernel Driver                   Running    TDPIPE           TDPIPE                                                                                                         Kernel Driver                   Stopped    TDTCP            TDTCP                                                                                                          Kernel 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Stopped    VolSnap          VolSnap                                                                                                        Kernel Driver                   Running    vsdatant         vsdatant                                                                vsdatant.sys          5.5.62.11        Kernel Driver                   Running    Wanarp           Remote Access IP ARP Driver                                             wanarp.sys            5.1.2600.0       Kernel Driver                   Running    WDICA            WDICA                                                                                                          Kernel Driver                   Stopped    wdmaud           Microsoft WINMM WDM Audio Compatibility Driver                          wdmaud.sys            5.1.2600.1106    Kernel Driver                   Runningi looked at motherboard resources in device manager and it saysdriver date 01/07/2001driver version 5.1.2600.0is this a bit old or doesnt matter cos its a 'resource'?it say in general device status 'there are no drivers installed for this device'!!! eh??? i tried using the foxconn c.d to find updated drivers, it said nothing newer than already installed. i tried disabling a 'sis accelerated graphics port' thinking that was the onboard graphics. dont think it was as on startup the screen was all flickery. i enabled it again! it does come up as a conflict/share in system info- conflicts/sharing with the NVidia graghics card.I/O Port 0x00000000-0x0000047F PCI busI/O Port 0x00000000-0x0000047F Direct memory access controller I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF SiS Accelerated Graphics PortI/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 Memory Address 0xD0000000-0xDFFFFFFF SiS Accelerated Graphics PortMemory Address 0xD0000000-0xDFFFFFFF NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 Memory Address 0xE4000000-0xE5FFFFFF SiS Accelerated Graphics PortMemory Address 0xE4000000-0xE5FFFFFF NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI busMemory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF SiS Accelerated Graphics PortMemory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB SiS Accelerated Graphics PortI/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 this below was also was taken from everest IRQ page;'Resource Share Device DescriptionIRQ 18 Shared kX 10k1 Audio - Model APS'this interesting too. it says the audio card is shared but doesnt say what with. i have already moved it to another pci slot to as it was sharing an irq with network card. any hints?have you seen the prev post 'Excessive CPU usage, 18% at idle' in this forum. the guy disabled legacy audio and problem resolved. shall i try it?also a friend has noticed that when wins starts up succesfully ( ie cpu ok) the audio drivers splashscreen runs thro fast.when wins starts up faulty ie cpu not ok from the start the splashscreen alot slower to run thro?? does that mean there is something here that si clogging up the system , some program. my friend also mentioned ... is there a prog that tracks activity and if so it may pick up the change?dunno/ just a thoughttrev

Edited by trevbushell, 10 April 2005 - 06:37 PM.


#31 OFFLINE   b2cm

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Posted 10 April 2005 - 10:12 PM

[quote]does that mean there is something here that si clogging up the system , some program. my friend also mentioned[quote]Here's what I suggest you do:(1) Remove all Realtek drivers. The following are Realtek driver files and you can do a search/delete for them:ALCXNT.DLLALCXNT.SYSALSWWTNT.DATALSWWTNT.DLLALSWWTNT.SYSALSWWTNT.TONMMDRV.DLLALCCHKID.EXEALCRMV9X.EXEALCRMV.EXEALCUPD.EXEALCXDEV.EXEALCXINIT.DATSOUNDMAN.EXEALCXWDM.CATALCXWDM.SYSALSNDMGR.CPL(2) Create a new hardware profile. Right-click My Computer desktop icon, and in the context menu select PROPERTIES. In System Properties dialog, click HARDWARE tab, and then HARDWARE PROFILES button. In Hardware Profiles dialog, click COPY button, type in a label, i.e. FruityLoop, and click OK button. Click OK button to close Hardware Profiles dialog. Click OK button to close System Properties dialog.(3) Click START>RUN, and type in "services.msc" (without the quotation marks). This should bring up the SERVICES management console that lists the windows services in the right pane. (4) To disable a service, select that service, right-click and in the context menu select PROPERTIES. In the Properties dialog, click LOG ON tab, select FruityLoop and click DISABLE button. Click OK to close the Properties dialog. Then do the same procedure for the other services to be disabled. Disable services related to AVG and ZoneAlarm. (Consult Black Viper's guide to Windows services for Windows services you can disable or set to manual.)(5) Restart your computer. At logon you will be asked what hardware profile to use. Select "Fruityloop". Test your fruityloop program to see if those glitches and crackles occur.[quote]is there a prog that tracks activity and if so it may pick up the change?[/quote]I use Systernal's FILEMON for that purpose. Can you post a link to Foxcon page that gives the motherboard specs?

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Posted 11 April 2005 - 05:19 AM

b2cm, on Apr 10 2005, 09:12 PM, said:

I use Systernal's FILEMON for that purpose. TREV-would this help me? should i download it and gather info for you?Can you post a link to Foxcon page that gives the motherboard specs?

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TREV-sure will  dohttp://www.foxconnch...me=661M03-G-6ELhttp://www.foxconnch...ame=661M03-G-6L not sure which one is mine, i will definatly check this when i get home by looking at the board!TREV-im at work at the mo, but will try this tonight (GMT, i live in england.) thanx again.i have posted a thread on the www.driverheaven.net site (the site that gives support for the kx audio drivers i use) its in kx project/general discussion forumsomeone there said theyve heard of  P4's ( or something) having a throttling device when the cpu gets to a ceartin temperature!! seems to make a bit of sense as when i first turn the comp on after a long break  it takes a while for the cpu change in fruityloops to happen(5 mins). if ive been using the comp and restart when its warm the problem  takes alot less time or is already there.so i did a test;I turn on comp from cold. the cpu temp is 32 degrees.The 'cpu thing' in fruity happened when the cpu temp got up to 40 degrees ( after 5 mins or so). (in everest)i turn on comp again. the cpu temp is 37degrees. the fruity thing happened when comp got to 40 degrees immediately!i turn on comp again. the problem is already there when i opened fruity! i looked in cpu temp and its 43 degrees. turn on comp. problem already in fruity. temp 44.turn on comp. open fruity -its ok then b4 i can open to see temp setting it had already changed to problem! opened up temp setting anyway. its 47 degrees.then had to go to work!! and here i am . what do you think.....

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Posted 11 April 2005 - 05:40 AM

08/04/2005 22:02:52 Avg7UpdSvc Information None 1 N/A MOJO Service started08/04/2005 21:40:40 DrWatson Information None 4097 N/A MOJO The application, C:\Trev\prog exes\mtinst.exe, generated an application error The error occurred on 04/08/2005 @ 21:40:40.296 The exception generated was c0000005 at address 77FC3943 (ntdll)08/04/2005 21:40:35 Application Error Error None 1000 N/A MOJO Faulting application mtinst.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 5.1.2600.1106, fault address 0x00073943.this came from admin tools/the computer management file .whats mtinst.exe/ is it a problem? should i seasrch for it and disable it/EDIT-ahhh ive just thought ... thats the motherboard rdriver that i downloaded and put into my prog exes folder ready to reinstall if i need to!!! i' will delete it!i'm wondering also if this problem would happen in any program (like msoft word. but im not sure how to check it as word is so low in cpu usage it would probs be difficult to see any change?

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Posted 11 April 2005 - 03:34 PM

The hotter the processor the less stable it runs. But at 47 degrees? Still it is worth considering. Your options would be to install CPU Idle and a better heatsink and fan. (Or sell the board and processor, then get an ASUS board and an affordable Athlon64 :thumbsup:.)

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Posted 11 April 2005 - 03:49 PM

MMDRV.DLL found in wins system32- deletedALCRMV.EXE found in wins/ prefetch- delettdSOUNDMAN.EXE found in prefetch- deletedcouldnt find any of thore other files.will now do hartd wre profile.... scary, i'll try my best to disable the right programs!thanx again for help so far

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Posted 11 April 2005 - 04:39 PM

In your "Fruitylopp" hardware profile, you should disable services releated to this processes:wuauclt.exe572 Automatic Updates Microsoft Corporationavgamsvr.exe1216 AVG Alert Manager GRISOFT, s.r.o.avgupsvc.exe1232 AVG Update Service GRISOFT, s.r.o.vsmon.exe 1380 TrueVector Service Zone Labs LLCzlclient.exe 412 Zone Labs Client Zone Labs LLCmsnappau.exe 268 MSN Updater Microsoft Corporationavgcc.exe 764 AVG Control Center GRISOFT, s.r.o.avgemc.exe 812 AVG E-Mail Scanner GRISOFT, s.r.o.msnappau.exe 1644 MSN Updater Microsoft CorporationDon't be scared. It is just a hardware profile that you can always delete after the troubleshooting. Your original hardware profile (Profile 1) will always be there to return to.

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Posted 11 April 2005 - 05:42 PM

b2cm, on Apr 11 2005, 03:39 PM, said:

Don't be scared. It is just a hardware profile that you can always delete after the troubleshooting. Your original hardware profile (Profile 1) will always be there to return to.

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thanx did it and it was asier than i thought. thanx for good instructions. unfortunatly did nothing!!ARRGGGHH!think its going to be buying new processor!do i need mother bd as well? or can i get away wth just processor?what do you suggest (for a reasonable price?) probs afford £140 dunnod how much that is in $.unless is it worth reinstalling APS audio drivers or even last attempt at reinstalling whole D*** lot???

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 12:30 AM

I would try the "last attempt at reinstalling whole D*** lot".When you do, don't use the drivers CD. Download SiS chipset (IDE and AGPGart) and other drivers from the SiS website (http://www.sis.com/download/) and install these instead. Also look for the newest drivers you can find for your sound card.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 12:55 AM

AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 512KB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor = $120http://www.newegg.co...-103-485&depa=1ASUS "K8N" NVIDIA nForce3 Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 754 CPU = $85http://www.newegg.co...-131-512&depa=1

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 12:59 AM

That would be well within the $263 (140 pounds). Going for just a processor change would limit you to a Pentium4, and a probability that you'd see the same "throttling" issue.Have you downloaded and installed CPUIdle?

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 03:12 AM

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 03:14 AM

CPU idle-no, i could try but not sure what ir does... could it harm the comp,(im assuming it stops the fan from running at max?)i'm not even sure if the temp of cpu is the problem. the comp is still starting up ok for 30 secs-2 mins or so before the glitch occurs even when the cpu temp is quite high. i mean it could be that, but i' not sure.will cpu idle rule this out this then?

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 04:24 AM

http://www.cpuidle.de/"CpuIdle is a CPU cooling and power management software.CPU cooling will help you achieve these things:    * decrease CPU temperature    * enhance stability    * enable overclocking (overclocking increases temperature- CpuIdle gives additional headroom)    * increase CPU life (a decrease by 10°C doubles the life span)    * cut power consumption"And, no, it does not stop your cooling fan. Download from here, and try it for 30 days.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 04:25 AM

http://www.cpuidle.de/downloads.php

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 04:28 AM

b2cm, on Apr 12 2005, 03:25 AM, said:

ok thanx will try it. see if it helps.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 11:05 AM

http://www.theinquir.../?article=21780hi bscm, check this out re your suggestion of mbd and processor. seems to be a poss psoblem with them?do you have tehm have you had any probs?trev

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 12:24 PM

That does not affect the 2.8ghz Athlon64 which does not have SSE3 support. Revision E probably to newer Socket 939/940 chips. You may also buy a Via Socket 754 board, instead of the Nvidia Nforce3.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 03:20 PM

b2cm, on Apr 12 2005, 11:24 AM, said:

That does not affect the 2.8ghz Athlon64 which does not have SSE3 support. Revision E probably to newer Socket 939/940 chips. You may also buy a Via Socket 754 board, instead of the Nvidia Nforce3.

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ok thnax for that.

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 07:09 AM

hi guys,weve made some headway here..its got nothing to do with audio... we know now.weve reformatted the dirve and reinstalled wins xp. all we  installed was cubase, ...and the AC97 drivers definatly werent installed at all.we didd the tset with cubase and the problem occured. we restarted the comp,ran a (nothing to do with audio) compression test. the test ran in 12 secs. we ran it again later and the time was 24secs, took twice the time.we then did some benchmark memory read, write and memory latency tests. This was all done without anything running!here are the results. as you can see we tried the test a few times. always the same readings!!TEST WITH NO PROBLEM:Memory Read (mb/s): 1373,1378,1372,1374Write (mb/s): 692,691,692,691Latency (ns): 165.1,378.3,164.3,164.7,165.5TEST WITH PROBLEM:Read (mb/s): 587,598,598Write (mb/s): 303,304,304Latency (ns): 378,377.7,377.6so theres a point where the benchmark tests change drastically. it may be to do with temperature? ( although 47 dgrees isnt that high really, but when the benchmark test is bad then the performance tests across the all the computer is altered... (i.e.- virtual dub)so we are somewhere but still no idea why? weve tried removing one at a time of both 256 mem cards, it happens with both of them, so probs not the mem card?any idea?

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 09:02 AM

beginning of post, recommended new power supplydid you change it?(new <> good )celeron dhas 256 l2 cacheoriginally designed without one at allnot my choice for high cpu requirement tasks such as thislater in post, going to another cpu, such as 64bit... maybe worth consideringnew motherboard <> goodwe bought two motherboards, an intel brand and one supporting amd, both came in dead; spent better part of day trying to make work, but guess what, still dead!swapping in and out 1 mem stick at a timeif both bad, that process won't show ithope some of this helps; there's plenty of good advice before my post...
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