Prelude76 Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Welcome fellow web designers.What do you use primarily when creating a website? It should give us an overall idea of what kind of expertise we're dealing here in our great bunch of web developers. p.s. - I'm a Dreamweaver semi-pro myself. Use it in conjunction with Fireworks. I'm using an older version at the moment (version 4), but i'm hoping this forum will give me the push i need to jump into CSS coding and perhaps even XML programming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havnblast Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Homesite and Dreamweaver together, been getting more into Dreamweaver tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volunteer Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 What do you use primarily when creating a website? It should give us an overall idea of what kind of expertise we're dealing here in our great bunch of web developers. I hand coded a simple website. I have tried HTML-Kit (free) but never really spent enough time to learn all the features. I'd like to learn some of the more advanced features like CSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Gee, I don't know where I fit in. Adobe GoLive is my all-time favorite. CSs is easy in that. I used to teach all Adobe products so after four years of teaching it, I guess I know that one. I primarily use Dreamweaver now but I teach a class in html using Notepad. I frequently go to the hand-code tabs and put things the way I want them when in Dreamweaver or GoLive. I need to learn more obout Dreamweaver. I took a workshop on it last spring and then did not touch it again until this fall. When I get stuck I just switch over to hand coding or GoLive. At home it is GoLive/Photoshop and at work it is Dreamweaver/Flash etc. I have been messing around some with the Linux tools as well. That said, have I confused the issue even more? Just put me down as Dreamweaver/GoLive/HandCoding/on-line sites/anything that works! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Just put me down as Dreamweaver/GoLive/HandCoding/on-line sites/anything that works! Anything that works ...definitely!I really think it depends on the situation and what's needed. A tool for every moment .. whatever works and helps me get the job done as quickly and efficiently as possible.I use handcoding mainly, but make use of many tools to help in the endeavor.I have used Dreamweaver and Frontpage ... I love Dreamweaver best of the WYSIWYG site builders; but even then I always have the code window open tweaking by hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachy Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Well,I currently use Dreamweaver MX 2004, which IMHO is the best darn WYSIWYG web editor! The new MX is a melding of Dreamweaver 4, Homesite, and Macromedia UltraDev (a suite of utilities for writing embedded server-side scripting in web pages). If you want to write ColdFusion Markup Language, PHP/MySQL, ASP.NET then MX 2004 has some very good wizards that make writing embedded scripts simple. The code is clean, perhaps not optimised, but for quick and dirty queries/form/tables it works quite wonderfully. I used this to demonstrate web server technologies to my students and they were totally amazed at MX 2004's power.That being said, Notepad and WordPad are my second and third choices. But, the thing that made me upgrade from Dreamweaver MX to Dreamweaver MX 2004 is its near-perfect rendering of CSS in the design view and default XHTML DOCTYPE for new documents. I don't think Microsoft FP 2003 is even in the same league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertM Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 I'm mostly a hand-coder but occasionally use Mozilla Composer. I'm also a semantic HTML/XHTML and CSS freak, so be careful what you say around me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicDragon Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 I hand write all my stuff.I use HTML-Kit for my editor, but i probably haven't tried 1/5 of its features. I just like the syntax highlighting, file pane, spell checker, etc.Jasc Paint Shop Pro 7 for graphics. draw concept page(s) in paintshop proI had never done that before, or even thought of it, and one day, i saw the web designer at work do that. What a good idea! It can be very helpful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLfan Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Other...My old tool of choice was Notepad but since I have now moved on from M$ I use Kate. Dreamweaver used to be my favorite but it produces such poor and sometimes unecessary code.Oh, one of my favorites for rollovers was using PS7 to create them and chop 'em up and Imageready to create the rollovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrine Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 I had to vote other because I maintain the website at work using Domino R5. We converted our intranet site from Front Page to Lotus Notes R5 (Domino) this year so that is my primary tool. A primary reason we use Domino R5 is because of the security features available through Lotus Notes. I've had basic training in both Front Page and Dreamweaver and feel that Dreamweaver is, by far, the more diverse and most powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicDragon Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 My old tool of choice was Notepad but since I have now moved on from M$ I use Kate.Kate is a great program. I really like how it has the shell on the bottom. Have you looked at Quanta for linux? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachy Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Other...My old tool of choice was Notepad but since I have now moved on from M$ I use Kate. Dreamweaver used to be my favorite but it produces such poor and sometimes unecessary code.Try the 30-day trial version of Dreamweaver MX 2004 and you will discover that it does XHTML/CSS quite well. No unnecessary tags, everything validates according to the DOCTYPE you choose in your page. Eric Meyer was a consultant on the CSS parsing engine for Macromedia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 I tried it Peachy! It was awesome! Now if I could just save up enough to buy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLfan Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Other...My old tool of choice was Notepad but since I have now moved on from M$ I use Kate. Dreamweaver used to be my favorite but it produces such poor and sometimes unecessary code.Try the 30-day trial version of Dreamweaver MX 2004 and you will discover that it does XHTML/CSS quite well. No unnecessary tags, everything validates according to the DOCTYPE you choose in your page. Eric Meyer was a consultant on the CSS parsing engine for Macromedia. I used Dreamweaver MX (2003) and it rendered garbage beautifully. I will have to give 2004 a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilson Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Ugh! I hate editors! The only time I ever used a editor was when I was brand new on the web, didn't know the difference beween HTML/Javascript and had never even heard of Mozilla or Linux.Now all my code is done by hand, and it complies to the W3C standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 I was working on switching all the old junk on my school's section of the district web site yesterday to CSS. I noticed it is the MX version of Dreamweaver I am using. I found I did most of it in the coding half of the page with it set up to view the top half of my screen as coding and the bottom half as a WYSIWYG view. Very handy. I about have our pages done. Just need to get the images up to date but I plan to put the whole site up at once rather than FTPing it page by page. The only problem I ran into was I got to about my 8th page and DreamWeaver crashed. I was glad I had just saved the other seven pages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prelude76 Posted November 14, 2003 Author Share Posted November 14, 2003 i should've put 2 categories for Hand-coding:- Hand-coding because i'm in Linux and Linux's options are lacking.- Hand-coding because i'm a neat person and want every code to be perfectly neat. i'm actually shocked that Hand-coding is giving Dreamweaver a run for its money in this poll. i learnt HTML the hand-coding way, and since i switch to Dreamweaver, i cant imagine doing some of the advanced sites with multi-tables, multi i-frames, javascripted codes, and have everything centre beautifully on any screen resolution. but to be perfectly honest, many linux websites where the webmaster is a strong hand-coding advocate are, ummm, whats a good way to say it, .... extremely lacking in any design style. as in, those site look more like extracts from a plain book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teffy Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 I use HTML-Kit. I am constantly delighted to find new features within it and pluggins for it. I am, however, curious about what a WYSIWYG editor could do for me, so I downloaded a trial of the new Dreamweaver. But it has been hard for me to force myself to figure out how to use it when I am so comfy with HTML-Kit. I want to know how other folks strike a balance between WYSIWYG and handcoding - I will start a new thread on the topic.I cut my HTML-coding teeth on AOL-Press. Does anybody remember that one?Teffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epp_b Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Primarily, I use FrontPage 2000 for website development. I particularily like its strenghts in table development, site and content management.Before I started using WYSIWYG, I used a very simple, but powerful text editor, Araneae.As with any WYSIWYG editor, you can't do everything in "easy mode" (or as I call it "lazy mode" ). I find myself still using Araneae for a lot -- especially PHP programming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prelude76 Posted November 18, 2003 Author Share Posted November 18, 2003 As with any WYSIWYG editor, you can't do everything in "easy mode" (or as I call it "lazy mode" )i never understood why so many (not just you, epp_ keep considereing WYSIWYG HTML editing to be 'lazy' and not as true as hand-coding HTML, yet we never see people using Wordperfect DOS, or even Typewriters anymore, now that we have MS Word and other WYSIWYG text editors. what's wrong with being able to see what the page will look like as you design, in real-time? or the way i describe it, why walk when you can drive? Hand-coding HTML is easier to get a grasp off then a full-fledged program like Dreamweaver; i mean, using Bold tags and Italic tags and http: weblinks as we all do on this forum and you're halway fluent at HTML already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havnblast Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 That is what is nice about Dreamweaver - split screen - hand code above and see how it looks below in real time including flash and other plugins. I've slowly been converting myself to DW since it can do the hand coding like homesite.It's nice to see at least two other people use Homesite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prelude76 Posted November 18, 2003 Author Share Posted November 18, 2003 That is what is nice about Dreamweaver - split screen - hand code above and see how it looks below in real time including flash and other plugins. I've slowly been converting myself to DW since it can do the hand coding like homesite.It's nice to see at least two other people use Homesite Macromedia owns Homesite now, doesnt it?the latest Dreamweaver has 3 options for its GUI, dreamwevear 3 style, new DW style, and also Homesite style. did you try running Dreamweaver with the Homesite interface? how close is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havnblast Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Macromedia bought out Homesite a couple years ago now - it's different from using it in DW vs. Homesite - in DW you have to select which toolbar you want - whereas in HomeSite it has pretty much every thing you need at the top. It just takes getting use to doing some things a bit different, but it's easy to adjust too. DW has Homesite beat for inserting your plugins - that is one of the best features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaquoval Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 (edited) Started out with Notepad then moved on to Homesite. When I started playing with php I switched to EditPlus (liked the multipage and syntax highlighting setup). When I started trying more complex pages/sites I tried FrontPage - never could get comfortable with it. Just recently started using Dreamweaver MX and am rapidly getting hooked. Code is not always the cleanest but seems way better than FrontPage's. As others have mentioned, I usually have the split view with code window above and design window below. - if things don't work out as expected you can usually find and fix the problem easier that way.* edit - Now that I'm venturing into Linux, I guess I'll have to explore some new options. Suggestions, anyone...? Edited December 2, 2003 by jaquoval Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachy Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 * edit - Now that I'm venturing into Linux, I guess I'll have to explore some new options. Suggestions, anyone...? Bluefish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akorvemaker Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Now that I'm venturing into Linux, I guess I'll have to explore some new options. Suggestions, anyone...?Bluefish is nice. Quanta is good too. I also like using Screem, though lately it's been crashing on me. I have to remember to file some bug reports.Quanta integrates well with KDE, while Bluefish and Screem fit better with GNOME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 I noticed Open Office has a web designer tool as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicDragon Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 * edit - Now that I'm venturing into Linux, I guess I'll have to explore some new options. Suggestions, anyone...?I use Quanta. Check through your menu. Many times there will be one of the mentioned HTML editors already installed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest martinultima Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hand-code! I actually hadn't heard of HTML until I got HTML for Dummies and learned to hand-code. When I launched my first website in 2002 (on Geocities) I used their editor, and then when I moved to Tripod, but I always went back to hand-coding. Right now I do it all off-line - I've copied all the sites I'm working on to a ZIP disk so I could use Windows or Linux to do it. (Windows - Notepad, Linux - gedit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebkens Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Mozilla for my homepage.FrontPage at school - wishing for Dream Weaver.Web-based for our soccer page.If I have to do a link or other html to insert into my web-based page, I just go to Mozilla's WYSIWYG, create what I want & copy & paste the html. No hand coding for lazy old me! :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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