Peachy Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Miguel de Icaza is quoted by Stephen J. Vaughn-Nicholls in a recent ZDnet article: “take one distro, one set of components as a baseline, abandon everything else and everyone should just contribute to this single Linux.” And if so, which distro would you want to base it on? Ubuntu? Debian? RedHat? Suse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 No, way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Why in the world would Linux ever want to beat Windows? Beat it at what, pray tell? Being insecure? Being the biggest target in the world for miscreants? Being as inefficient and unstable? I'll never understand why pundits like these fellows keep harping on what Linux needs to do to be like Windows. Linux is Linux. Windows is Windows. Let's leave it that way, I say. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlim Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Won't work. You could never get people to agree on what desktop interface to use, for starters! Some love gnome, other KDE and then there are minimalists who prefer XFCE, LXDE, Enlightenment, Fluxbox, IceWM and probably others I don't know about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Here, here! Liz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Won't work. You could never get people to agree on what desktop interface to use, for starters! Some love gnome, other KDE and then there are minimalists who prefer XFCE, LXDE, Enlightenment, Fluxbox, IceWM and probably others I don't know about. Blimey ! you never heard of Window Maker, Blimey ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Blimey ! you never heard of Window Maker, Blimey ! Or Xmonad or Openbox, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 The only thing Linux needs to beat Windows is a very big stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Here's a little news tidbit for everyone... As far as I'm concerned, Linux beat Windows way back in 2006 when I first went to Linux full-time. It has been beating it ever since. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamukota Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 You can only beat an opponent. Who is Linux competing with? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Linux doesn't have to compete with anyone. That's why this is bogus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I do agree that in my case the suggestion in the article to slow down the pace of change is a good one. When I started with Linux I was a distro hopper and early adopter of new releases. Some of that was necessary as the early distros I tried were pretty bad at handling wireless and later ones much better. However wifi under Linux is really good now - so I've gotten off the propellerhead bandwagon and switched to Linux Mint 13 LTS which has 5 years of support. The Cinnamon desktop is a nice blend of Windows XP and Gnome 2.X so my wife is happy using it. No Start Screen, Modern UI, Charms Bar either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluttermagnet Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Nyet! Nyet, I tells ya... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Agreed, Temmu. Debian rools, ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Well the problem with Debian is its stability. Most packages are 2-3 (or more) releases behind the current stable versions. Now I know that you can run Testing or Unstable but to base Linux on pure Debian Stable would not be very good. For servers Debian is one of the best distros around but for Desktop users, Debian is a poor choice due to the outdated versions of software and the kernel. Granted, I am referring to Debian Stable, not Debian Unstable or Debian Testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Debian's stability is it's best feature but yes, it gets a bit behind the latest releases. Most users don't actually need bleeding edge apps. For those of us who like living on the edge, I think siduction is the best option as it's based on Debian unstable but nursed by it's devs to be fairly stable (I've recently defected from aptosid). So all Linuxii should be based on siduction! (sunrat dodges rocks and runs to find tinfoil hat) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturnian Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Comments in this thread show exactly why there'll never be one main Linux distro. We wouldn't be able to agree on something like "Debian Stable or Siduction." As pointed out earlier, we certainly wouldn't be able to agree on a desktop environment. Why take "choice" out of Linux? Why does anyone feel that Linux needs to compete with Windows, anyway? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Why take "choice" out of Linux? Why does anyone feel that Linux needs to compete with Windows, anyway? Indeed!! I think that is most people's opinion here (and everywhere else hehe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlangdn Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Here's something I bet we will all agree on: Steam finishes its Linux_client and begins to port games after the initial offering proves wildly popular. Game developers eyes are suddenly opened to a new and very lucrative market - Linux gamers! Then that old song begins to play in the background - "Another one bites the dust..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolanaj Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 One of the biggest advantages of Linux as far as I can see is the fact that it is not one size fits all, you choose what works for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturnian Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Most users don't actually need bleeding edge apps. Debian Stable receives security updates. That's fine with me. I do want the latest for the web browser, but I go outside of the Debian repos for that, anyway. The other stuff, it doesn't really matter to me if it isn't bleeding edge. I just want everything to work when I need it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) Debian Stable receives security updates. That's fine with me. I do want the latest for the web browser, but I go outside of the Debian repos for that, anyway. The other stuff, it doesn't really matter to me if it isn't bleeding edge. I just want everything to work when I need it to work. How many people are still using XP and Word 97? Nobody complains about that. What percentage of Win users do you think are using a version of Word OTHER than 2010? And when a Linux user does upgrade to a later version of LibreOffice, they don't have to pay. And older versions of Linux distros will still run the latest browsers. But you can't run IE9 or 10 with XP. The only thing holding back Linux desktop is a function they teach in Eco 101. It's called "The Average Propensity to Change". People don't like to change. It takes a lot of motivation to get them to change. As long as they don't perceive the "Windows Tax" they are paying when they buy a new PC, you aren't going to get them to change to Linux. It's that simple. Edited November 4, 2012 by lewmur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 ...am eff tee peeing now! whee! HAHAHA! Love it. I've got to remember to use this phrase someday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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