Webb Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 You knew it was coming. I could never connect with Knoppix, either, so I didn't expect Mepis to be any easier.I have a network interface card with an Alcatel Speed Touch Home modem (DSL). Everything I have read tells me that this should be compatible with Linux. I have my DNS address, username and password from my ISP. Everything should be ready to set up.Software is Mepis with KDE 3.1.My PPOE utility detects the card (eth0) and an access concentrator (whatever that it). It then asks me for my username and password and makes a few recommendations but it never asks me for a DNS address or a domain name. Naturally, I don't get a connection.Plog tells me that authentication failed.How do I get this little sucker connected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Usually you will use DHCP ( Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol ) and don´t need to give the DNS or domainname.Maybe have a look here: http://www2.educ.umu.se/~bjorn/linux/howto.../mini/DHCP.htmlIf your NIC is detected and assigned to eth0, it should work. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 The page looks good but all the links are dead. I have these files (extensions omitted) on cd:dhcpdhcp-clientdhcp-client-udebdhcp-relaydhcp-dnsI'm thinking dhcp-client? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Hi JimI was thinking DHCP deamon . . but that is not in your listing . . and it really should already be installed anyway.Try:# netconfigTo configure your networkcard and after that:# ifconfig eth0 up ( will put your connection up ) ( ifconfig eth0 down to kill it )If all went well:# netstat -i ( will show you the ¨eth0¨ and ¨lo¨ )Now try to ping a well-known host like your ISP# ping www.internethost.com you should be able to see traffic there and your connection is O.K. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 That didn't do it either.netconfigcommand not found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 You did that as root ?? . . . Very strange . . I did call on Quint he runs Mepis too . . maybe he can help. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 I knew you were going to ask and I thought of including it in the message. I was definitely root.I found another file called resolv.conf that looks like it's filled with dummy information:nameserver 192.168.0.1Would putting a real name and DNS number in there help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Yep it could help . . . but not with the DNS numbers, have a look at mine:[bruno:~]$ cat /etc/resolv.confsearch lan localnameserver 127.0.0.1nameserver 10.0.0.138B) BrunoPS: Have an Alcatel too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 JimWhat happens if you type 10.0.0.138 in your browser ? Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 That just gives me a "Could not connect" error.Another thing I fiind strange is that plog tells me that authentication failed in less than 1 second. Windows takes at least 10 seconds to authenticate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quint Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Try this: click on the desktop icon "Mepis Configuration Center" > give root password > click on "Network" (left side panel) > click "start eth0" (right side panel); that is all that I had to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Jim,10.0.0.138 is your modem . . . looks like the trouble is your NIC . . I hope Quint´s sugestion works. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 Quint's suggestion certainly looks like it should work. It even shows the correct DNS address. But it doesn't connect Mozilla or Konqueror. The card is and SMC 1244TX. I'll have to check on compatibility. I think there was a list in your mini-tutes.The problem with 10.0.0.138 may have been with Konqueror. It wants to add www. in front of everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Google/linux shows me this on the SMC 1244TX: Thanks for the warning. That's kind of what I figured, a totally Win piece ofhardware. Like a soft modem. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quint Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Jim, do you have a "tick" or "check" in the boxes for DHCP on each tab? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Does that have Galeon on it where you can check to see if it works there? Do you have proxy and socks turned off in Konqueror? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 I downloaded a package of drivers from SMC and it seems Linux compatible. I'll try Quint's latest suggestion but it takes a while to reboot, test, reboot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Good . . you should at least be able to reach 10.0.0.138 . . there you can login to your ISP with loginname and password. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 eth0 - Use DHCP for IPDNS - Use DHCP for DNSTyping 10.0.0.138 into Mozilla's address box bring up "Connection was refused".Back to try the proxy and socks thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I know you don't want to give up. However, some distros just don't seem to like some ISPs. I don't know why. There have been 2 or 3 that I have tried that just would not work for me. Mandrake is always stable and works like a charm though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 I suppose I could try installing Mandrake if all else fails. I was starting to think it was a driver problem since 10.0.0.138 doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 With the new driver installed you will have to load it . . . have a look Here although you don´t have the netconfig Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 Are we agreed that it's a driver problem? SMC's solution doesn't look very pretty. ****************************************************************************** SMC Networks, Inc. ** SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1244TX V2) ** Driver Installation for LINUX ** ** Copyright © 2002 SMC Networks, Inc. ** All Rights Reserved. ******************************************************************************A. Get source Code and produce a binary code=============================================Step 1 : Get the source code from the following site; http://www.scyld.com/network/tulip.htmlStep 2 : Build compiler environment on your Linux system.Step 3 : Compile source code to produce a binary code (tulip.o).B. Installation guide using Slackware 3.XX==========================================Step 1 : Copy tulip.o into the latest kernel's modules: cp tulip.o /lib/modules/2.0.XX/net/tulip.o Where the XX is the version number of the latest kernel.Step 2 : Modify /etc/rc.d/rc.modules: Unmark the line /sbin/modprobe tulipStep 3 : Reboot system: rebootStep 4 : when system boots, the driver will be load.Step 5 : run netconfig to setup TCP/IP (run 'ifconfig' or 'netstat -i' to see if there is a interface 'eth0')C. Installation guide using Redhat 5.XX=======================================Step 1 : Copy tulip.o into the latest kernel's modules: cp tulip.o /lib/modules/2.0.XX/net/tulip.o Where the XX is the version number of the latest kernel.Step 2 : Update kernel's module dependencies: /sbin/depmod -aStep 3 : Check /etc/conf.modules: alias eth0 tulip options tulip options=X debug=XStep 4 : Valid media types selections for options=X are: 0 Auto-select (default to the 10baseT link) 1 10base2 2 AUI 3 100baseTx 4 10baseT-FD 5 100baseTx-FD 6 100baseT4 7 100baseFx 8 100baseFx-FD 9 MII 10baseT 10 MII 10baseT-FD 11 MII (autoselect) 12 10baseT (no autoselect), v0.69 and later only 13 MII 100baseTx 14 MII 100baseTx-FD 15 MII 100baseT4Step 5 : Valid debug levels for debug=X are: 1 normal output 2 more verbose 3 even more verbose 4 even more verbose 6 insanely verboseStep 6 : Reboot system: /sbin/shutdown -r nowStep 7 : when system boots, the driver will be load.Step 8 : run netconfig to setup TCP/IP (run 'ifconfig' or 'netstat -i' to see if there is a interface 'eth0')D. Installation guide using TurboLinux 6.0==========================================Step 1 : recompile tulip.c note: Add a parameter '-V2.7.2.3' after gcc. Please reference goturbo.Step 2 : other installation steps is the same as Slackware 3.XXStep 3 : Modify /etc/modules.conf add the line alias eth0 tulipStep 4 : other network configuration, please use turbonetcfg.I could probably download and install Mandrake faster than I can figure this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranquilo Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Are you certain you don't have the tulip driver on your computer? What is the output lsmod? What about locate tulip.o or find /lib/modules -iname tulip.o (you may need to be root).tranquilo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 I have the tulip driver in lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/net/tulip/tulip.o. I don't know whether it's being loaded at boot, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranquilo Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 lsmod should tell you whether it's currently loaded, and it should be loaded on boot if it's in your /etc/modules file. You can also check /var/log/dmesg and see if the tulip driver is listed./sbin/lsmodcat /etc/modulescat /var/log/dmesg | grep -i tulipIf it's not currently loaded, you can try insmod/sbin/insmod tulipand try restarting the network. You can use /etc/init.d/networking restart (or { start | stop | restart | force-reload } can be used) to restart the network, but I don't know if anything additional needs to be done when using pppoe.hthtranquilo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 I tried lsmod and it doesn't look like it's loaded. I'll try insmod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 insmod says "init_module: No such device". Teacher's advice is starting to sound better. Mandrake has finished downloading, 15 minutes to burn the CD, and reinstall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Mandrake is one of the easiest because it has such a comprehensive hardware list. It is my primary OS. I keep others like Slack and Mepis to play around with but Mandrake always works like a charm. If I spend more than an hour trying to det a distro to load properly then I usually move on. There are just too many out there to waste time on one that just doesn't get along with your hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 I'm taking your advice. I've had too many problems with Debian based distros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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