abarbarian Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Pulseaudio has been replaced with pipewire on Arch set ups. It is supposed to be a painless change. Not on my Arch it ain't. I did an update and it seems everything is installed, Quote pipewire-1:0.3.59-5 is up to date -- reinstalling pipewire-pulse-1:0.3.59-5 is up to date -- reinstalling pipewire-alsa-1:0.3.59-5 is up to date -- reinstalling lib32-pipewire-1:0.3.59-2 is up to date -- reinstalling The guide says to try, $ pactl info ... Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.32) ... I do and get -->pactl info Server Name: pulseaudio The guide says Quote Install pipewire-pulse. It will replace pulseaudio and pulseaudio-bluetooth. Reboot, re-login or start the pipewire-pulse.service user unit to see the effect. I try and get Put brain in gear before pressing enter20:36:10-->Mon Nov 07-->~ -->systemctl start pipewire-pulse.service ==== AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.systemd1.manage-units ==== Authentication is required to start 'pipewire-pulse.service'. Authenticating as: bloodaxe Password: ==== AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE ==== Failed to start pipewire-pulse.service: Unit pipewire-pulse.service not found. So what the heck is going on . It seems all pipewire stuff is installed ok when I check with pacman. However all is not ok as systemd does not seem to see it. I am well and truly hacked off. Why could they leave stuff as it was or give an option to change over if you wanted to. Progress my big fat ar*** Oh an I have rebooted several times. An tried updateing everything too. Edited November 7, 2022 by abarbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Um, it is??? This is the first I have heard of this. I do not have pipeline on any of my installations.... Ok, I have pipewire installed but never used it. [comhack@Cerberus ~]$ pactl info Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native Library Protocol Version: 35 Server Protocol Version: 35 Is Local: yes Client Index: 2284 Tile Size: 65472 User Name: comhack Host Name: Cerberus Server Name: pulseaudio Server Version: 16.1 Default Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_0c_00.3.analog-stereo Default Source: alsa_output.pci-0000_0c_00.3.analog-stereo.monitor Cookie: 2e13:8815 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The only thing I see is back in may Undone replacement of pipewire-media-session with wireplumber 2022-05-12 - Jan Alexander Steffens Two days ago the wireplumber package was made to replace pipewire-media-session as the latter session manager for PipeWire is considered dead upstream and will see no more releases. Unfortunately, this step was premature. Our pipewire audio packages (pipewire-alsa, pipewire-jack and pipewire-pulse) ship configuration that prompt media-session to activate PipeWire's audio features. When these packages are not installed and the configuration is missing, PipeWire can be used for screen recording without interfering with ALSA or PulseAudio. WirePlumber disregards this mechanism and always configures PipeWire to grab audio devices, meaning users of PulseAudio or bare ALSA experience broken audio. The replacement has been reverted while we attempt to look for a better solution switching to WirePlumber. If you are currently not using PipeWire for audio and wireplumber got installed on your system, please reinstall pipewire-media-session and reboot to restore audio functionality. pacman -Syu pipewire-media-session https://archlinux.org/news/undone-replacement-of-pipewire-media-session-with-wireplumber/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 If you do choose to use pipeline, I would follow the wiki entry for it https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I would remove pipewire-pulse and pipewire-alsa and reconfigure Pulse. Unless you are using experimental wayland, pipeline is not required at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 ray@ray-debian-T430:~$ pactl info Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native Library Protocol Version: 35 Server Protocol Version: 35 Is Local: yes Client Index: 77 Tile Size: 65472 User Name: ray Host Name: ray-debian-T430 Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.59) Server Version: 15.0.0 Default Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 48000Hz Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo Default Source: alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo Cookie: 315a:ac3f ray@ray-debian-T430:~$ I have pipewire on my Debian bookworm install running GNOME 43. I get sound OK at least on YouTube videos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Ah... how I long for the daze of ALSA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 @abarbarian curious the pipewire-pulse service won't start. Have you tried using a player which has a direct PW output? Have you run pw-top to see what PW programs are running? https://docs.pipewire.org/page_man_pw_top_1.html I've switched between PA and PW successfully on a test install of Debian Testing a while back. Some of the commands in this post may help - https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?p=149568#p149568 - although it's for switching between PW and JACK, I'm sure you could adapt. Pipewire pretty much Just WorkedTM in Testing IIRC. I considered many times running Arch just to see what it's about. Seems similar to Debian Unstable in that it works great, until it doesn't. Sticking to Debian Stable here for now, much less hassle. I did try Manjaro once, full install, for a few days. It was OK but no killer must-have features. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abarbarian Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 9:43 PM, sunrat said: I considered many times running Arch just to see what it's about. Seems similar to Debian Unstable in that it works great, until it doesn't. I have found Arch to be extremely stable and easy to run. Apart from when I start to fiddle around. Then It usually goes kaput on me at some stage. I must have been half asleep when the update asked if I wanted to replace pulse with pipe. Normally I would have done a check to see what was what but this time I just said yes without thinking. I managed to ditch the pipewire and set up pulseaudio again. So everything is working and as far as I am concerned back to normal again. Thanks everyone for the help. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 9 hours ago, abarbarian said: I have found Arch to be extremely stable and easy to run. Apart from when I start to fiddle around. Then It usually goes kaput on me at some stage. I must have been half asleep when the update asked if I wanted to replace pulse with pipe. Normally I would have done a check to see what was what but this time I just said yes without thinking. I managed to ditch the pipewire and set up pulseaudio again. So everything is working and as far as I am concerned back to normal again. Thanks everyone for the help. Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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