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helloSystem, the Mac-like FreeBSD OS, Takes Another Step Towards Full Release

 

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Most of you have probably never heard of helloSystem before. The project was started by the creator of AppImage, Simon Peter, early last year. Simon’s goal is to create a “friendly Libre Desktop operating system with focus on simplicity, minimalist elegance, and usability”.

 

user guide etc etc

 

Interestingly Ventoy is mentioned in the guide as a way to try out helloSystem,

 

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Ventoy is a tool that lets you boot the operating systems of multiple ISO files that are residing on the same disk, without the need to write the ISO to a physical device. Starting with version 1.0.62, Ventoy can boot helloSystem 0.7.0 and later.

 

This looks like a very interesting distro well worth a play with. 😎

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8 hours ago, sunrat said:

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Looks interesting. Doubt it will catch on any more than other BSDs but I may give it a spin in Ventoy one day.

 

I gave it a whirl in Ventoy.

 

Took a while to load. Once up and running it semed pretty snappy to say it was running from a old usb 8GB hdd. Only had a quick play as there was no automatic internet connection. The programs I tried opened up quickly enough.

Like I said interesting for the concept. 😎

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9 Years Later, Slax Linux Has Found Its Way Back Home

 

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For the benefit of our more curious readers, Slax 7.0.6, released in March 2013, was the latest Slackware-based release of this famous Live CD distribution. Then the distribution’s lead developer, Tomas Matejicek, made the decision, and Slax was based on Debian for many years. Until today.

Of course, this is logical considering that the Slackware project was “frozen” for many years and that much of the Linux community assumed it was abandoned.

But Slackware’s resumption with the launch of the new release earlier this year appears to have given Slax the push it needed to return to its roots.

 

 

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4 hours ago, abarbarian said:

Of course, this is logical considering that the Slackware project was “frozen” for many years and that much of the Linux community assumed it was abandoned.

 

This is a blatantly incorrect statement. Slackware was never "frozen" or "slumbering" or any of that. My v14.2 was and is STILL updated/upgraded regularly. I haven't moved to v15 mainly because I do NOT like some of the changes to the Xfce desktop. v14.2 is still chugging along fine for me.

 

Anyway, good news about Slax. I've been using Porteus as my portable Linux since Slax went to Debian. I may have to go download the new Slackware-based Slax and see how it is.

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I'm not crazy about Slax, and it has nothing to do with the heart of it.  For me, it's the look.  Sure, that can be changed but I'd always know how it looked originally and that's what counts for me...for real.

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That said, the team took a break for 31 months between releases but only 47 days without updates. They were still working on Slackware between the long release schedule:

 

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Between the November 2013 release of 14.1 and June 2016, Slackware saw a 31-month gap between releases, marking the longest span in release history. During this time the development branch went without updates for 47 days. However, on April 21, 2015, Patrick Volkerding apologized on the ChangeLog for the absence of updates and stated that the development team used the time to get "some good work done."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware#Development

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Not really an article about a single distro more a smorgasbord of distro information.  😂

 

Testing Six Different Linux Distributions On The Intel Core i9 13900K "Raptor Lake"

 

Clear Linux came out top again but not by very much. Every os had notable first places with the Arch offering taking second place with Ubuntu trailing in last.

 

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In the end it was a rather competitive mix of distributions. Out of more than 200 tests, Intel's Clear Linux came in first place 34% of the time followed by Arch-based EndeavourOS with wins 25% of the time and then Debian Bookworm with wins 20% of the time... For many of the first place finishes the top-tier competitors were running neck-and-neck.

 

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The Phoronix article seems to confirm what I've anecdotally noticed over the years. If you are going bleeding edge hardware, stick with Intel. He used AMD graphics though. Not too surprising that Intel's own distro did well.

 

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The Debian-based SparkyLinux has a new point release that retools the live USB desktop creator and other changes that give it shiny new-ness.

 

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With the new release, it is now possible to create live USB installations with persistent storage. That means you can take a version of SparkyLinux with you, wherever you go, that will include any data you've saved to the USB drive.

 

SparkyLinux

 

SparkyLinux wiki site

 

Sparky stable editions

 

Sparky rolling editions

 

Neat distro with some interesting offerings.

 

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9 hours ago, abarbarian said:

 

Your link is to the wiki, website is actually https://sparkylinux.org/

 

Sparky looks neat and seems to be building in popularity. I think the developer pavroo works full-time on it supported by donations.

As a long-time Debian user, I doubt it offers much that I don't have already.

 

I'm guessing the Live USB Maker is a port of the MX Linux tool. - https://mxlinux.org/wiki/help-files/help-mx-live-usb-maker/

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1 hour ago, sunrat said:

 

Your link is to the wiki, website is actually https://sparkylinux.org/

 

Sparky looks neat and seems to be building in popularity. I think the developer pavroo works full-time on it supported by donations.

As a long-time Debian user, I doubt it offers much that I don't have already.

 

I'm guessing the Live USB Maker is a port of the MX Linux tool. - https://mxlinux.org/wiki/help-files/help-mx-live-usb-maker/

I was tracking SparkyLinux for awhile in a VM, when I was looking to escape the Ubuntu camp.  I liked Sparky a LOT, and they have a healthy forum, and pavroo is quite active there and engages with his users.  There are different versions of Sparky, but the raison d'etre for Sparky is their rolling release, which is a fairly polished version of Debian Testing.  I didn't like Debian Testing.  Way too many updates, way too often.  And the way Testing works, if something breaks, it's gotta clear Sid first.  I decided that if I was going to be in the Debian camp, it needed to be Sid (cutting edge, but quicker fixes) or Stable (trailing edge, but supremely stable).

 

I like Siduction a LOT, but ultimately opted for the Stable version as my main machine is mission critical.  But back to Sparky....very similar to Debian Testing, but a little more polished and some of pavroo's custom tools (like in MX).

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14 hours ago, sunrat said:

Your link is to the wiki, website is actually https://sparkylinux.org/

 

Blimey nearly as bad as grammer police 😝 Corrected the mistake and added extra download links.

 

Could not find any other information on the usb thing apart from this,

 

https://wiki.sparkylinux.org/doku.php/live_usb_creator

 

Your probably right that it may be based on the antix/MX one. either way it is a good tool to incorporate in the distro especially as you can use it with persistence from the Live usb.

 

I like the way they have the different basic os's and then with one command you can add game/multimedia/rescue stuff. All in all a very neat distro and one that fledgling penguins would have a lot of fun with.

 

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17 minutes ago, V.T. Eric Layton said:

By the way, it's spelled G R A M M A R. Grammer is the ol' lady who made cookies for you when you were a kid.

Grammer wasn't my cookie-making relative.  Mine was Geh-momma....very Sicilian.

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My grandmother on father's side was "Abuela"... very Spanish. She didn't make cookies, but she fed us lots of other goodies.

 

My grandmother on mom's side was "Nana"... very Anglo. She didn't make cookies, either. However, she cooked lots of yummy cakes and pies. :)

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I do run Debian Testing and it's true it updates a LOT. However I run on a non mission critical laptop and the worst I've had so far is that new versions of GNOME break the Shell Extensions I like.

As far as LXQt distros go I like Spiral Linux and I run the Debian stable version on an old desktop that does not get upgraded that often.

Debian Testing is a real roller coaster - seems to combine all the disadvantages of a point release with a rolling release. Fun though. :th_1sm168massbounce:

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On 2/12/2023 at 3:56 PM, V.T. Eric Layton said:

Grammer is the ol' lady who made cookies for you when you were a kid.

 

Never had any grandparents at all. They either got shot by the Germans or Stalin in WW2. 😎

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32 minutes ago, abarbarian said:

Never had any grandparents at all. They either got shot by the Germans or Stalin in WW2. 😎

 

See, now you have me all sad and rueful for posting my snarky commentary. I'll just go away now...

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Endless OS is a very nice distro for meganoobs, for children and for furnishing computer labs and internet cafes: it's Debian-based, it's immutable (very hard to break) and it's designed to be easy and accessible for everybody.

 

This distro is based on rpm-ostree, allows to easily rollback in case of any problems upon updates. Also, the fact that the root directory remains unchanged after installing software, helps to maintain a more stable and reliable OS.

 

https://endlessos.com

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17 hours ago, V.T. Eric Layton said:

 

See, now you have me all sad and rueful for posting my snarky commentary. I'll just go away now...

 

Yer original comment was not really snarky. An I'm not trying to make you disappear , but I never had any aunts or uncles either. There were just the four of us, me , mum, dad and me sister. What we lacked in blood family was made up of lots of adopted aunts and uncles from every nationality you could name, all of them war refugees from eastern Europe.

 

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13 hours ago, securitybreach said:

Endless OS is a very nice distro for meganoobs

 

After reading up on this distro I may swap from Arch as I am feeling like a meganoob at the moment. 😜

 

A very interesting distro with some neat ideas.

 

https://www.debugpoint.com/endless-os-review-2021/

 

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An .ISO file specifically designed for Windows system to install as dual-boot. This installer is an EXE file which you can download in Windows machine and start the installation! This something unique I found.

 

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A specially designed .ISO for virtual machine

 

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The Endless OS can not be installed at the moment as dual boot with other Linux distributions. What? Yes.

As per the information I found, the .ISO is not designed to handle other Linux distribution as dual boot. However, you can try it in virtual machine with any Linux host OS.

 

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The basic installer gives you two options. Try in LIVE media or reformat the entire disk and install.

 

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And you can start using this desktop without internet connection right away. A perfect desktop for those places where internet is not always available.

 

The only slight drawback with the distro I can see is that,

 

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One point to note that, Endless OS use Flatpak to deploy applications. There is no way to install other than Flatpak. For example, you can not use apt or apt-get at all because the file system is read only.

 

For a lot of folk that will not be a problem as there are plenty of flatpak applications that supply popular programs. if you are a penguin ninja then you would probably choose another distro. All in all a fine effort. 😎

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Nearly all of those are a big NO from me. Flatpak? 💩

 

I think Debian and maybe several others had an .exe installer years ago. Don't know of any that do now.

Apparently Wubi still exists. It installs Ubuntu inside a Windows partition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(software)

https://github.com/hakuna-m/wubiuefi/releases

Whatever you do, do not visit wubi-installer <dot>org 😬

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12 Alternative Operating Systems You Can Use In 2020

 

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Operating Systems mentioned:

Haiku OS: https://www.haiku-os.org/

ReactOS: https://reactos.org/ Friend: https://friendos.com/ - For a FREE demo account email info@friendos.com or visit their discord at: https://discord.gg/HQ93NFG

ARAnyM: https://aranym.github.io/

Risc OS Open: https://www.riscosopen.org/content/

MorphOS: https://www.morphos-team.net/

ArcaOS: https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos/

AROS: http://aros.sourceforge.net/

Oracle Solaris 11: https://www.oracle.com/uk/solaris/sol...

Minix: https://www.minix3.org/

AmigaOS 4.1: https://www.amigaos.net/

TempleOS: https://templeos.org/

 

Rather neat well done look at some alternative os's.

 

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13 hours ago, sunrat said:

 

How many of those can one use in 2023 though? 🤔😁

Only one of those is Linux, I think.

 

Yeah I I know but I thought the video was a good fit due to its oddness.

 

I took a look at the Haiku os and it seems that you could use it as a daily driver for quite a lot of things. I thought it was pretty slick.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KoI1Wz7wE8

 

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