wibblewobble Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 He's written a whole series of DAW articles, if you search his site. For example https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/surge-xt-synthesizer-added-to-my-slackware-daw-software-collection/ Nothing to do with windowmaker! Have fun 1 Quote
wibblewobble Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) This morning's screenshot running debian 12, with current weather satellite pic. Edited July 23, 2024 by wibblewobble 2 Quote
abarbarian Posted July 23, 2024 Author Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) Been a tad lost in the wasteland lately so only just found yer query. Welcome to Scot's with two of us working on it we will soon have all members here using Window Maker. As a quick fix for your query. You could write an alias for each of the two commands. Then use one alias as the main function of a dock app and the other as the middle click function. That way you would have two functions on the one dock app. This might help out, https://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?/topic/56171-window-maker/&do=findComment&comment=481792 Edited July 23, 2024 by abarbarian 1 Quote
securitybreach Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 32 minutes ago, abarbarian said: Welcome to Scot's with two of us working on it we will soon have all members here using Window Maker. 1 Quote
sunrat Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 1 hour ago, abarbarian said: Been a tad lost in the wasteland lately so only just found yer query. Welcome to Scot's with two of us working on it we will soon have all members here using Window Maker. You'd have to drag my cold lifeless body away from KDE Plasma before that happens. AVL-MXE latest version has Enlightenment desktop which is interesting but a lot of people, myself included, can't quite come to terms with it judging from forum posts. I installed KDE on it and it works almost seamlessly: I even mentioned it to the dev and he's showing interest and asking me questions about it. 1 Quote
wibblewobble Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) I always liked the rasterman's enlightenment work, although I much preferred the spacey look of the first version, which I used to run, but his later stuff is a lot more conventional-looking. Of course the later versions of e are a lot more polished! Terminology is a nice job too, worth looking at https://www.enlightenment.org/about-terminology.md Yeah plasma 6 is nice, but still bloated, too many background processes... I don't need all the eye candy and plasmoids, I do most things in terminals so wmaker and fvwm and console are my tools of choice . Hey, there's still some of us out there! Edited July 23, 2024 by wibblewobble Quote
wibblewobble Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 Check out e16, this is what enlightenment used to look like. Quote
wibblewobble Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 (edited) Anyway, congrats to the barbarian, it's great that someone had set up a windowmaker forum. I was pleased to find this. I had a look through some of your earlier posts, lots of useful stuff! Edited July 23, 2024 by wibblewobble 1 Quote
sunrat Posted July 23, 2024 Posted July 23, 2024 The best Enlightenment desktop I have seen is the Moksha variant in Bodhi Linux - https://www.bodhilinux.com/moksha-desktop/ 1 1 Quote
wibblewobble Posted August 4, 2024 Posted August 4, 2024 (edited) OK here's a little hack that I did recently that might be useful. An on-screen virtual caps-lock LED for your keyboard that doesn't have the physical LED any more! Not having a caps lock LED is a major omission on my latest lenovo thinkpad-style keyboard. Very annoying, it would only have cost a few cents to include it. Don't they use the products they make? On the USB version of the keyboard there is no battery to run down and there is already a hole in the case at the top right corner of the keyboard case moulding where the bluetooth led is present in the bluetooth version. It wouldn't have taken much to put an led in there and a small firmware change to light it up on the usb version. Cheap *******s. Turns out there is a little program called xkbvleds that can be used to show a virtual LED indicator of the caps lock state on the screen. On my system running the windowmaker window manager, you can make a handy caps lock indicator LED in the bottom right hand corner of the screen by running $ xkbvleds -watch 1 -geom -0-0 and make sure to dock the appicon and set it to start when wmaker is started and lock it in position in the dock. You will see a small green led in the bottom right hand corner of the screen that switches on when caps lock is on. Make sure to switch off all window decorations in the window attributes of the xkbvleds window and make it omnipresent across all desktops, using the titlebar dropdown menu. If you want to put it somewhere else on the screen you can vary the -geom arguments. Using -geom -1000-0 puts it about 1/3 of the way in from the right side of the screen along the bottom edge, for example (on my screen anyway, the x-coordinate depends on the size of your screen). The final result should look something like this. If you look carefully at the bottom of the screenshot about 1/3 of the way in from the right hand side, observe the green caps lock led indicator is on. It's quite small on my 2K screen but good enough. Unfortunately changing the width and height of the xkbvleds client area using the -geom argument doesn't cause the size of the led indicator to scale with the window. You might prefer to put it somewhere else on the screen than the bottom right corner. It's better than nothing anyway. There are probably gnome applets you can get to show the keylock state as well and swallow them in something like wmsystemtray, I haven't bothered to investigate further since this works well enough, and xkbvleds requires no gnome dependencies to be installed. You might have to zoom the screenshot to see the caps lock indicator LED in the screenshot. Edited August 4, 2024 by wibblewobble 1 Quote
wa4chq Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 Hey wibblewobble.....I don't use WM but I really like the keyboard! Very cool! I have a Lenova E420 lappy but didn't know there was a keyboard like that available. Tnx. 1 Quote
Hedon James Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 2 hours ago, wa4chq said: Hey wibblewobble.....I don't use WM but I really like the keyboard! Very cool! I have a Lenova E420 lappy but didn't know there was a keyboard like that available. Tnx. I was thinking the same thing! I used to be a big fan of Toshiba laptops, because they had that "intellipoint" device (the little eraser nub) embedded in the keyboard. Took some getting used to, at first, and it was VERY sensitive, so it was very easy to send your cursor racing across the screen and overshooting your target! But once you got the hang of it, i MUCH preferred it over a mouse. Added bonus, you didn't have to lift your mouse hand from the keyboard, so typing became faster too! As far as I know, Lenovo is the ONLY maker that still incorporates that pointer in a laptop. I didn't know they had a standalone keyboard? I think I'd be interested in one of those! Where'd you get it Wibble? Got a link? 1 Quote
wa4chq Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 21 minutes ago, Hedon James said: I was thinking the same thing! I used to be a big fan of Toshiba laptops, because they had that "intellipoint" device (the little eraser nub) embedded in the keyboard. Took some getting used to, at first, and it was VERY sensitive, so it was very easy to send your cursor racing across the screen and overshooting your target! But once you got the hang of it, i MUCH preferred it over a mouse. Added bonus, you didn't have to lift your mouse hand from the keyboard, so typing became faster too! As far as I know, Lenovo is the ONLY maker that still incorporates that pointer in a laptop. I didn't know they had a standalone keyboard? I think I'd be interested in one of those! Where'd you get it Wibble? Got a link? Hey HJ...not sure where Wibble made the purchase, but Amazon has 'em. They have wired and wireless.... Quote
Hedon James Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 13 minutes ago, wa4chq said: Hey HJ...not sure where Wibble made the purchase, but Amazon has 'em. They have wired and wireless.... you, sir, have wisely anticipated my next question! LOL! Quote
wa4chq Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 18 minutes ago, Hedon James said: you, sir, have wisely anticipated my next question! LOL! Excellent! Quote
wibblewobble Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 (edited) It's called a lenovo KU-1255. This one is the usb cable only version, without bluetooth. There is another more expensive version which looks identical but which is bluetooth, rechargable with a built-in battery. I got this one from aliexpress, lenovo seems to have done an end of production disposal and flogged a load of them off, they have them in many different languages. But no UK layout ones left, my one has a US layout. Yes it's a nice little keyboard, and the built-in trackpoint mouse works well too. Saves a lot of space on the desk, and very accurate to type with, I'm a touch typist so a good keyboard helps. I can get about 60 wpm with this thing if I try. It's scissor mechanism switches, not mechanical of course. There is one weak point though, which is they have used a micro-usb B connector (not usb-C) where the cable plugs into the keyboard. It's a pretty fragile connector and I could see the plug was moving around in the socket when I move the keyboard around on the desk, like when I put my coffee down... all that stuff. And if you search reddit etc you'll find quite a lof of people complaining about those connectors failing after a few months. So to stabilise the connection I put a couple of blobs of hot glue on each side of the plug like this, which holds it rock solid in place. That type of hot glue can just be peeled off with a craft knife if I ever need to replace the cable. I used the small hobby type hot glue gun that you can get for 2-3 pounds on ebay. The blobs of glue aren't visible when using the keyboard. Edited August 5, 2024 by wibblewobble Quote
wibblewobble Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 (edited) My whole current desktop setup looks like this. I tend to prefer one big monitor to multi-monitor setups. I'm using a little 16GB RAM N100 mini pc and I've got a separate headphone amp (canfords) that I picked up off ebay to drive sennheisers. The monitor is iiyama. Edited August 5, 2024 by wibblewobble Quote
wibblewobble Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 And the reason I posted the software hack was this keyboard has no caps-lock LED (bah) which I was missing, so I looked around for a way to have a virtual LED on-screen. It's not really as good as having the LED on the keyboard itself, but it's better than nothig Quote
wibblewobble Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 Hahaha I just realised that desktop shot is with a different keyboard... oh well, doesn't matter, you can see the thinkpad one in the other photos ... Quote
securitybreach Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 Blasphemy. Here is a real keyboard 1 1 Quote
wibblewobble Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 (edited) Sacrilege! I will take your homemade piece of cherry keyswitch junk and raise you an IBM model M, as made by IBM Greenock. These keyboards last for decades... long after your cherry crap is rotting in a landfill. Marvel at the CIM robot production line in this 1980's factory production video from Greenock. No, you're not worthy!! Here you go. Edited August 6, 2024 by wibblewobble 1 1 Quote
securitybreach Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 I also have this one that has cherry browns (Made in germany) 1 Quote
wibblewobble Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 (edited) Yeah I got a G80-3000 that's pretty nice, it's got cherry blacks, made in czech republic, but the build quality can't really hold a candle to a model M. It's a cheap clone. The black switches aren't bad. There used to be some good quality clones from taiwan years ago too, made with things like alps switches. The thing I haven't tried but am intrigued by is the fujitsu realforce with the topre capacitive switches, they appear to get some good reviews, but pretty steep prices. Edited August 6, 2024 by wibblewobble 1 Quote
wibblewobble Posted August 6, 2024 Posted August 6, 2024 I just spotted this which is a cheap model-M clone; no idea if it's any good, probably not at that price. https://www.amazon.co.uk/PERIBOARD-106M-Performance-Full-Size-Keyboard-Ergonomic/dp/B08P52C8QC/ref=pd_sbs_d_sccl_2_2/257-9778243-6208942?pd_rd_w=EZ0H4&content-id=amzn1.sym.a6779871-f1b3-4f65-8ecd-f839d6272217&pf_rd_p=a6779871-f1b3-4f65-8ecd-f839d6272217&pf_rd_r=D04BRC7V2G5R6M8Z4Y2J&pd_rd_wg=cmlra&pd_rd_r=60055292-2a9e-4df9-849b-5f6957477d45&pd_rd_i=B08P52C8QC&psc=1 1 Quote
wibblewobble Posted August 9, 2024 Posted August 9, 2024 I like the little thinkpad keyboard because it saves a lot of space on the desk, but for pure typing the cherry has it beat of course. 1 Quote
wibblewobble Posted August 27, 2024 Posted August 27, 2024 (edited) Latest lenovo keyboard and mouse acquisition. This one is an 'ultraslim plus wireless' mouse and keyboard set. I saw them going cheap on aliexpress and couldn't resist... https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd014528-lenovo-ultraslim-plus-wireless-keyboard-and-mouse-overview If anyone wants one search for 'lenovo KBRF3971' on aliexpress. You need to chose UK layout (or whatever you want). Advance warning - for some bizarre reason lenovo didn't put a caps lock LED on this one either! Why??? How many cents did that save them? So to use it with wmaker, my virtual caps lock LED hack described earlier works with this keyboard too I need to think of some windowmaker topics... Edited August 27, 2024 by wibblewobble Quote
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