GolfProRM Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Thought I'd pose this question while I'm here at work, so you all can post before I get home. :)Running SuSE 9.0 (as if you didn't know )My girlfriend has a printer hooked up to her machine (a Canon i550 I think)... It's a WinXP machine. She's got the printer shared, and I print to it all the time from my WinXP boot.The question is: how do I set this up to print from Linux? I know nothing about linux printing (haven't had the time to read up on it yet), so hopefully someone can help me. :)The printer is on a standard Windows share, and it's in my network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Hi Ryan,You will have to change your setup slightly . . . . connect the printer to Linux . . . and then share the printer with Windows. I will not work the other way around ( because Windows can´t see Linux ). Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Bruno, that's odd ... I have had an HP5000 hooked to my Win98SE computer right along, and my Jim can print to it fine on RedHat 7.3. The printer is a samba share.Some links to help:http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-...nter+with+linuxDid they change something in later revisions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Hi FranI just remember Rons having lots of troubles getting his networked printer to work, he was having headaches for weeks. . . untill he shared it from Linux. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxdude32 Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 It might be easier to do it with it hooked up to Linux, but Linux can see Windows-shared printers. Try using YaST to setup the printer from there, Ryan. Choose "Other" and then click "Configure" and then select "Print via SMB Network Server". Then you have to enter the Workgroup information, hostname of the Windows server (though you can click 'Lookup' to search the network), name of the printer and username and password (it needs to be windows login name and password on that machine). Click the 'Test' button to try it right away. In theory, it should be easy, in practice... you'll find out soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfProRM Posted December 5, 2003 Author Share Posted December 5, 2003 Thanks Jason... I'll give that a shot when I get home... :)Bruno: I'd consider hooking it up on my machine, but have a couple problems: First, she won't let me touch it... She says "It works fine for me, so you're not allowed to break it"Second: I don't have any free USB ports on my machine (other than a front port that doesn't always work right)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 LOL Ryan . . looks like she´s the boss . . . . B) Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Good luck Ryan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike180 Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 You are also changing from w98 to wXP so sharing might be more difficult.mike180 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfProRM Posted December 5, 2003 Author Share Posted December 5, 2003 No dice...I tried to set it up using YaST, but it never could even find the other computer. I entered all the info in manually, but could never get it to spit anything out of the printer...Just a question, as she's got other drives shared, how do I access them? I assume I can somehow? I just want to make sure that our computers can see each other... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rons Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 In ALL of the documentation I read during my trials trying to get Linux to print to a XP machine, nothing covered Windows XP. Most documentation stopped at 98 or NT systems. Yet I could mount drives on the XP system, share files, move files,[used LinNeighborhood] and the network would see the printer [HP 1100 LaserJet] on the Linux machine. But would not print. I moved the printer to the Linux box and all was well. Windows XP prints just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfProRM Posted December 6, 2003 Author Share Posted December 6, 2003 Rons... speaking of LinNeighborhood... how the heck do you get it to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Ryan,Here is a page that has many of the concepts about sharing printers. The person asking is on Mandrake, but the concepts are the same.http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ar...003/10/1/100349Pay close attention to oski's answers. There are subtle things that are very important.---If that is all to much and the printer can't be moved to the Linux computer -- there is always a print server, where you hook the printer's parallel/USB port to the print server then hook the network cable between the print server and your hub or router where the printer would be a true network printer to both computers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfProRM Posted December 6, 2003 Author Share Posted December 6, 2003 Fran... Thanks for the link... Somehow I don't think that my problem is specifically a printer problem... Just tested it, and for some reason, I can't even ping the WinXP machine (no software firewall running) from Linux. I can ping the Linux machine from her WinXP machine though. I think if I get this problem figured out, I'll be able to print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 (edited) What firewall on XP?Have you added the IP for your Linux box to allow traffic from your Linux box?Windows makes groups in all caps ... are you both in the same group (even down to case sensitive)Do you have accounts on both machines that match: username and passwords and are you logged in on the XP machine as that user?Are the IPs of both machines in each other's host file?Are you trying to ping with the IP address or computer name?Just a few things to check on LOL! Edited December 6, 2003 by LilBambi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 In line with the print server info once you get pinging etc.Here's a Linksys USB Print Server w/4-port 10/100 switch ... maybe a nice joint Christmas gift.The reason I am suggesting this is low impact on users, ability to share internet connect easier, as well as the printer.When someone prints across the network to another PC, there is an impact to the user. I have seen one or the other computer crash and both computers have had to be rebooted. Very annoying to the other user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfProRM Posted December 6, 2003 Author Share Posted December 6, 2003 Currently, no software firewall on the XP box (turned off for testing)... both boxes set to the same workgroupHave accounts setup properly... logged in correctly to both.host file?tried pinging with both IP and computer name... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachy Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Just a check, but do you have File and Printer Sharing installed in XP and also NetBEUI and/or NetBIOS over TCP/IP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfProRM Posted December 6, 2003 Author Share Posted December 6, 2003 Yes, peachy, I do... everything is setup correctly AFAICT on the XP box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 On the Linux box, could you do the following and post results: ifconfig -a > ifconfig.txt route -en > route.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rons Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Hi Fran,Well you peaked my interest after I read your post concerning printing from Linux to XP. I struggled with and was unsuccessful when I tried this last June. This was using Mandrake 9.1 and a 10mbps network hub. In October I redid the network when I switched to DSL. I installed all new cabling, DLink NIC's [100mbps] in all systems, but more important, A DLink router. I'm sure you know that routers are smart devices [compared to hubs] using MAC addressing to control traffic on the LAN.I had also installed Lindows 4.0 on my test system last week so thought I would try printing once again from Linux to XP. I went to the Lindows site and they had updated drivers for HP Laserjet printers [using CUPS] which I installed.I got up bright and early and switched the printer back to a XP [no NetBEUI] system. Setup the printer using CUPS and viola - printed perfect ! My conclusions:The router has had a major impact on how the network operates.Lindows provided the latest HP Laserjet drivers & software using CUPS to install the printer.THANKS FRAN ! I'm sending a great big hug your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Again after you get the Linux box seeing the XP box, here are a couple links that might help with SMB and LinNeighborhood:Samba's Encrypted Password Support (note: on a totally local network -- if no internet on the closed loop network -- plaintext passwords are much easier to get working).LinNeighborhood Readme on author site (also has a good screenshot page to show how it would look with file shares and printer shares). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Hi Fran,Well you peaked my interest after I read your post concerning printing from Linux to XP. I struggled with and was unsuccessful when I tried this last June. This was using Mandrake 9.1 and a 10mbps network hub. In October I redid the network when I switched to DSL. I installed all new cabling, DLink NIC's [100mbps] in all systems, but more important, A DLink router. I'm sure you know that routers are smart devices [compared to hubs] using MAC addressing to control traffic on the LAN.I had also installed Lindows 4.0 on my test system last week so thought I would try printing once again from Linux to XP. I went to the Lindows site and they had updated drivers for HP Laserjet printers [using CUPS] which I installed.I got up bright and early and switched the printer back to a XP [no NetBEUI] system. Setup the printer using CUPS and viola - printed perfect ! My conclusions:The router has had a major impact on how the network operates.Lindows provided the latest HP Laserjet drivers & software using CUPS to install the printer.THANKS FRAN ! I'm sending a great big hug your way. Awesome! That is great Rons! :thumbsup:You are very welcome .. it is always my pleasure to help any where I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 CUPS is one of the best things since sliced bread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfProRM Posted December 6, 2003 Author Share Posted December 6, 2003 golfpro:/home/ryan # ifconfig -aeth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:22:BB:B0:7C inet addr:192.168.1.100 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::250:22ff:febb:b07c/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:70322 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:54020 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:53183271 (50.7 Mb) TX bytes:5332922 (5.0 Mb)lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:910 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:910 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:54374 (53.0 Kb) TX bytes:54374 (53.0 Kb)sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) golfpro:/home/ryan # route -enKernel IP routing tableDestination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth00.0.0.0 192.168.1.254 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 (edited) Hi Ryan,Here's something that might help:http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php...?showtopic=4450Not their script issue, but the dhcp discussion. Maybe? Edited December 6, 2003 by LilBambi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfProRM Posted December 6, 2003 Author Share Posted December 6, 2003 You know... it helps to allow incoming echo on the XP box to be able to ping it :)I forgot about XP's builtin firewall... will see if disabling that for awhile allows me to do stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 LOL! Good plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfProRM Posted December 6, 2003 Author Share Posted December 6, 2003 Okay... so now I can browse the XP machine using LinNeighborhood... I tried the print thing again... and if I enter in the XP box's IP as the host, it will find the print queue, and says the print server is available... I finish out the process, but can't test print... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 (edited) OK, great progress. Now you need to check the /etc/host file on the Linux box to make sure that the IP address then tab once and put the name of the computer (case sensitive) -- you can also tab once more and put a alias name for the computer as well.On the XP box (c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\ if I remember correctly), should look something like this: 127.0.0.1 Â Â Â localhost192.168.0.1 golfpro ryan192.168.0.2 ladyXP ladyname (where ladyXP is the actual name of your lady's computer and ladyname is an short alias for ease of use)The Linux one will look very similar.Reboot both computers then, wait for at least 30 seconds before trying. WinXP is sluggish.Also, make sure there is at least one share on each computer (not the default shares on XP, make a directory on c:\ and share it) and that the printer is shared on the XP box and note exact name (make it short if possible -- one word preferably). Edited December 6, 2003 by LilBambi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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