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I'm all over this. Will download tonight. I always try out the latest Mint. :(Edit: I'm running Mint8 live CD. Booted up well on my friend's Gateway 510S with added nVidia FX5200 card. No problems so far and yes, pretty fast.

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But SHOOT :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :w00t: it gave the IBM palpitations LIVEcd would not even boot up rotating error error error screenThought I was a temperamental Scorpio but SHOOT :( these computers put me to shame :"> So now Mepis is going o after Knoppix/PCLinuxOS LXDE both did the same This was after resurecting Windows on it Cheers for yearsColin :thumbsup:

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I downloaded it a couple of nights ago. Installed it on the new computer that I built. Put it on the 2nd sata hd. it installed with no problem and it even has the ATI 4200 working great. It is a keeper and one that I would recommend over Ubuntu to anyone who is a new Linux Explorer. I am still a Ubuntu fan and 9.10 is my main OS but for a person new to Linux, Mint 8 has it all as well as some decent easy to understand tutorials by Tombutu. It is not for the power needs all the bells and whistles geek, but it is sleek and fast. It has a user interface that any windows user could navigate.Mel

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I downloaded it and ran it in Vbox on PCLinuxOS 2009 but like most other OSes I can't listen to CBC or watch last night's supper time news ( heck not even watch CNN ). In my books Super OS is the one. Linux Mint 8 looks awfully nice, however, and I like the menu. I am tempted to burn it but will keep it on my storage partition for now.

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Here with you virtually in Linux Mint 8. It looks like a keeper - especially for those who are new to Linux. I think I may install it on one of my junk machines for further testing as a possible distro for my "clients" who may wish to try Linux out. The Guest Additions work just fine.

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It looks like a keeper - especially for those who are new to Linux. I think I may install it on one of my junk machines for further testing as a possible distro for my "clients" who may wish to try Linux out.
Burning for my sister now. I think I am going to install this for her over the holidays. She currently has XP on her machine but she does nothing but web stuff. I was thinking about trying to see if she would let me install Linux for her and linuxMint 8 looks like a good one for a new penguin.Thanks
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I was thinking about trying to see if she would let me install Linux for her and linuxMint 8 looks like a good one for a new penguin.Thanks
What I like about it is that it uses the Gnome apps that I like and has a bit more of a Windows look and feel with Menu Bar at the bottom of the screen. Personally I like the classic Gnome look, but I'm sure a migrant from Windows would like Mint better.
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I can't listen to CBC or watch last night's supper time news ( heck not even watch CNN ).
Having installed it on a computer, I am having no problem in viewing videos on CNN and CBC.However, where is menu.lst? I cannot find it to edit the boot order?Thanks,Bill Edited by BillD
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OK, I remember the discussion about Grub2 now, but somehow I had the idea that you only got that if you used Ext 4, and since I used Ext 3, I forgot about that.Thank you,Bill

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No it has nothing to do with the filesystem. You can install Grub2 on most filesystems including ext2 and reiserfs. It basically is the choice of the distro. Grub2 has only recently been introduced to some distros, but it has been in developement since 2002.Thanks

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Well, after looking thru the various "pieces" of Grub 2 in Mint, I could never find anything that showed the multiple boot options, so I checked the Mint forums, and sure enough, this was a common question, and it said you could set this up from the Control Center with the startup manager. The problem was that the startup manager (in my case) had to be downloaded with synaptic before it was complete and would do much in the Control Center ;) Also, I can see no way to get the monitor resolution to stay set from one reboot to the next; it always goes to the max for the monitor as determined by the nVidia driver I installed, and the only way I could set it was to go to the nVidia setup deal; the screen monitor option always said "cannot parse /etc/X11/xorg.conf" . . . so I foolishly tried putting the desired resolution setting under device and I messed that up because when I rebooted, it could no longer access xorg and so I could not longer access the installation . . . And before I tried that, I tried setting it in the Control Center but it was the same nVidia hardware control there . . . ?Having spent a couple of hours personalizing the set up and downloading stuff, is there anyway I can access the xorg.conf file from a live CD and fix it, or does one have to just reinstall the root?Not good!Thanks,BillIncidentally, if you don't want to see that stupid quotation each time you open the terminal, you can comment out the last line of /etc/bash.bashrc which says "/usr/bin/mint-fortune". That was another common complaint over there that came up with a quick search!

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Well, after looking thru the various "pieces" of Grub 2 in Mint, I could never find anything that showed the multiple boot options, so I checked the Mint forums, and sure enough, this was a common question, and it said you could set this up from the Control Center with the startup manager. The problem was that the startup manager (in my case) had to be downloaded with synaptic before it was complete and would do much in the Control Center ;) Also, I can see no way to get the monitor resolution to stay set from one reboot to the next; it always goes to the max for the monitor as determined by the nVidia driver I installed, and the only way I could set it was to go to the nVidia setup deal; the screen monitor option always said "cannot parse /etc/X11/xorg.conf" . . . so I foolishly tried putting the desired resolution setting under device and I messed that up because when I rebooted, it could no longer access xorg and so I could not longer access the installation . . . And before I tried that, I tried setting it in the Control Center but it was the same nVidia hardware control there . . . ?Having spent a couple of hours personalizing the set up and downloading stuff, is there anyway I can access the xorg.conf file from a live CD and fix it, or does one have to just reinstall the root?Not good!Thanks,BillHello BillD I started to write several times to attempt to help you with your problems with Grub2. I spent a great amount of time researching and trying to understand grub2. Once I got a understanding of it and learned how to use it I will never go back to Grub 1 or to lilo. There are so many things that you can do with grub 2 once you learn it. you have to read read and read. I went to several other forums and got all of the information that I could. the same files and what applies to grub 2 in Mint can be found in Ubuntu tutorials. below is a few links that may help you. I will also mention some files in grub 2 that may help you.First off take a look at the files in (/etc/grub.d) folder the file you want to edit for multi booting is one called (40_custom) in that folder. THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMAND in grub 2 is code
sudo update-grub
whenever making changes to any of the files run that command. also if you are not aware of it. When you run that command it will scan all of the hard drives including those external one hooked to the USB port. It will try to find all OS's including windoes and add them to the Grub.conf file. It will do this automatically for most OS's on your hard drive. You can also edit the themes file in the /etc/grub.d folder to have a nice looking bootup menu screen. I will give you some more files to look at in another post.Mel :) Here are some links.http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20.htmlhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
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Having spent a couple of hours personalizing the set up and downloading stuff, is there anyway I can access the xorg.conf file from a live CD and fix it, or does one have to just reinstall the root?Not good!Thanks,Bill
Have you tried the following? if you can get to the command line you can probably fix it this way.MelPress <Ctrl><Alt>F2 and log in with your name and password. Then run Code: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
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Also, I can see no way to get the monitor resolution to stay set from one reboot to the next; it always goes to the max for the monitor as determined by the nVidia driver I installed, and the only way I could set it was to go to the nVidia setup deal; the screen monitor option always said "cannot parse /etc/X11/xorg.conf" . . . so I foolishly tried putting the desired resolution setting under device and I messed that up because when I rebooted, it could no longer access xorg and so I could not longer access the installation . . . And before I tried that, I tried setting it in the Control Center but it was the same nVidia hardware control there . . . ?Having spent a couple of hours personalizing the set up and downloading stuff, is there anyway I can access the xorg.conf file from a live CD and fix it, or does one have to just reinstall the root?
This is a problem with NVidia drivers and Xorg. It occurs in Ubuntu 9.10 and is one reason I'm waiting until 10.04 LTS comes out to upgrade my main Ubuntu Linux machine.You can try this workaround from Ubuntu Forums. It involves making a new xorg.conf file.1) open a terminal2) sudo mv -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup2) sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf3) sudo nvidia-settings4) hit "save configuration"with the empty xorg.conf, nvidia-settings should properly save the file.
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This is a problem with NVidia drivers and Xorg. It occurs in Ubuntu 9.10 and is one reason I'm waiting until 10.04 LTS comes out to upgrade my main Ubuntu Linux machine.You can try this workaround from Ubuntu Forums. It involves making a new xorg.conf file.1) open a terminal2) sudo mv -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup2) sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf3) sudo nvidia-settings4) hit "save configuration"with the empty xorg.conf, nvidia-settings should properly save the file.
In grub2 you go to the /etc/default folder and edit the grub file. here is what it looks like.# If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update# /boot/grub/grub.cfg.GRUB_DEFAULT=0GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=trueGRUB_TIMEOUT="10"GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)#GRUB_TERMINAL=console# The resolution used on graphical terminal# note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE# you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo'#GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480# Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux#GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true# Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entrys#GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY="true"Mel ;)
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You can try this workaround from Ubuntu Forums. It involves making a new xorg.conf file.1) open a terminal2) sudo mv -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup2) sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf3) sudo nvidia-settings4) hit "save configuration"with the empty xorg.conf, nvidia-settings should properly save the file.
Well, I tried that and the Nvidia box was empty. And when I tried to do this:
You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run nvidia-xconfig as root), and restart the X server.
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Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. At least one Device section is required.Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
So I looked at the new xorg.conf and added the line (right below depth): ' Modes "1024x768" 'Rebooted again and to my vast surprise it rebooted at 1024x768, yet still gives me the full range of resolutions. I was curious about all this because it does boot and shutdown faster than PCLinuxOS, and I figured my wife like it better and since she uses a CRT monitor still, she uses 1024x768 resolution settings on it.I remember all this when I tried running live with Ubuntu 9.x and decided it was just a messy distro to work with, and I still think so! But I greatly appreciate your input . . . I learned a little and also got more confused: what does "touch" /etc/X11/xorg.conf do?Thank you,Bill
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But SHOOT :) :w00t: :w00t: it gave the IBM palpitations LIVEcd would not even boot up rotating error error error screen
Colin;This doesn't surprise me at all. If it is an IBM and not a Lenevo, it isn't exactly 'bleeding edge." :ermm: The Latest and Greatest distro will seldom work well with older hardware unless it is a distros specifically designed to do so. Such as Puppy. (All I use on my old Acer laptop is Puppy. Work just fine.)For older hardware, find an LongTermSupport distro that works with your hardware an stick with it. Then, use VBox to play with TL&G stuff and avoid the hair pulling! :hysterical:edit: Just yesterday, someone brought me an old Gateway laptop that had a PIII processor. It had a bad harddrive and replacing it would have been cost prohibitive. But I was able to give her a working laptop for only the cost of a 2gb USB stick by putting Slitaz on it. Not the snappiest machine going but it worked. :o (Actually, I was surprised that a machine that old would boot from a USB stick.) Edited by lewmur
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LewYET on the IBM MDV 2010 Gnome LiveCD and also Installed worked a treat on the P4 3.0Ghz 160GB Hardrive and 1GB memory.Although it is taking last place for setting up Both OS's as the Quad and 4600+ are back into RENEWAL mode following so many excursions along the road of Linux Distros this last two weeks or so. Glad to see Slitaz worked from USB - will explore it on Distrowatch just as another possible option for the IBM oldie :o Cheers for YearsColin :)

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. . . I learned a little and also got more confused: what does "touch" /etc/X11/xorg.conf do?Thank you,Bill
In this instance it will create an empty xorg.conf file.From man touch:
NAME touch - change file timestampsSYNOPSIS touch [OPTION]... FILE...DESCRIPTION Update the access and modification times of each FILE to the current time. A FILE argument that does not exist is created empty.
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Thank you. My man touch does not have: "A FILE argument that does not exist is created empty." It has a mess of switches, but not that statement, so I appreciate the input because it certainly worked here.Thanks,Bill

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Well, I tried that and the Nvidia box was empty. And when I tried to do this: I got this: So I looked at the new xorg.conf and added the line (right below depth): ' Modes "1024x768" 'Rebooted again and to my vast surprise it rebooted at 1024x768, yet still gives me the full range of resolutions. I was curious about all this because it does boot and shutdown faster than PCLinuxOS, and I figured my wife like it better and since she uses a CRT monitor still, she uses 1024x768 resolution settings on it.I remember all this when I tried running live with Ubuntu 9.x and decided it was just a messy distro to work with, and I still think so! But I greatly appreciate your input . . . I learned a little and also got more confused: what does "touch" /etc/X11/xorg.conf do?Thank you,Bill
Looks like you got a new xorg.conf which was the goal of the workaround. I thought you were using the NVIDIA proprietary driver. I don't understand why you got the replies you did. The idea was to create a new empty xorg.conf and then let nvidia-settings save the required info in there. Looks like that is what happened indirectly.I haven't tried to set up Ubuntu Karmic with an NVIDIA card myself. I just use Ubuntu Hardy, or install Mandriva. Mandriva always seems to work with whatever video i throw at it.
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I thought you were using the NVIDIA proprietary driver. I don't understand why you got the replies you did. The idea was to create a new empty xorg.conf and then let nvidia-settings save the required info in there. Looks like that is what happened indirectly.
I was using the nVidia proprietary driver, but even after making a new xorg.conf file and seeing the stuff in the nVidia window, when I ran "nvidia-xconfig" in terminal, it still would not allow me to save a particular configuration (1024x768) to the xconfiguration file; it gave me an error message. Sooo, I looked in my PCLinuxOS computer, and saw where the Modes " xxx" "yyy" etc. were listed and added that single one to the file. I don't have any idea what was/is wrong that the "save" button in the nVidia window would/will not work.Think it is interesting that on the Mint site, it says that Mint is the most popular home distro after Windows and Mac. Maybe so; I don't know, but I really don't see why other than the fact that if you are going to go with a Ubuntu based distro, this already has the codecs installed for viewing streaming media; however, I find that it must use the same setup for them that is recommended on the Ubuntu site, because there is still streaming media I cannot get audio on just as there were with the "approved" Ubuntu method; the only way I got that all to work right with 8.04 LTS last winter was when I found another link for setting up the streaming stuff that someone had posted. See:
I never tried to set a default bootup resolution in 8.04, so I don't know how that would have worked, but I am not all that impressed with Mint 8!Bill
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I was using the nVidia proprietary driver, but even after making a new xorg.conf file and seeing the stuff in the nVidia window, when I ran "nvidia-xconfig" in terminal, it still would not allow me to save a particular configuration (1024x768) to the xconfiguration file; it gave me an error message. Sooo, I looked in my PCLinuxOS computer, and saw where the Modes " xxx" "yyy" etc. were listed and added that single one to the file. I don't have any idea what was/is wrong that the "save" button in the nVidia window would/will not work.
While you can run nvidia-settings as user, I think you need to be root to write to xorg.conf. Could that be it?
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While you can run nvidia-settings as user, I think you need to be root to write to xorg.conf. Could that be it?
No, I don't think so as there was no indication of that when I did it; however, I also tried it as root with same results. The initial error indication was that it could not write to the xorg.conf file because there was no "device" or "screen" category (I cannot remember which); then after making a fresh xorg.conf as suggested above in the thread it could not write to it because it could not write to the xorg.conf.backup file. After I deleted that, it still would not write to it, but I cannot recall the error message then :whistling: If it sounds like I don't know what I am doing, it is because that is the way it is/was; I just flat lost track of all the errors I was getting that night.However, I can tell you that if I change the resolution now, and then hover my mouse over the "save" button in the nVidia panel, it says it is going to save it to "~nvidia-settings-rc" by default, but then when I click it, I get an error message that says "cannot save to xorg.conf.backup" which makes no sense because of the hover message I get above :rolleyes: So it looks like putting that one resolution in there to get it to boot into that was the only "simple" way to do it. But it seems to me that it is a little bit much to expect the user to have to create his own xorg.conf file in the first place (the default one (which became the backup that I deleted) had almost nothing in it and would not boot after I added the "modes . . . " line below the depth 24 under SubSection "Display").None of these problems cropped up with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS; it just worked after I ran the nvidia-xconfig command as root. Think someone above commented about sticking with 8.04 and I can see why!Thanks, Bill Edited by BillD
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No, I don't think so as there was no indication of that when I did it; however, I also tried it as root with same results. The initial error indication was that it could not write to the xorg.conf file because there was no "device" or "screen" category (I cannot remember which); then after making a fresh xorg.conf as suggested above in the thread it could not write to it because it could not write to the xorg.conf.backup file. After I deleted that, it still would not write to it, but I cannot recall the error message then :whistling: Bill
Hello BillI had the same problem until I learned that you do have to be root. That is if you were using the Nvidia drivers Non free and using the nvidia utility to change the resolution. That is the little green Icon that sets in the tray. you cannot use the one that came with the distro if you have the non free drivers installed. also you have to drop down one line in the menu and click on that to change the resolution. (as root). Like I say it was confusing for me at first but after learning how, it worked fine for me. I am now using a ATI card so a new learning experiance all over again. so far so good and all is working well.Mel :rolleyes:
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