longgone Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I just installed Windows 7 RC on the first partition of my second hard drive .. I am using GRUB as the bootloader and PCLOS as the default OS ... using "mcedit" I made the following entry to the bootloader menutitle Windows 7root (hd1,0)chainloader +1it appears on the bootloader menu, but when I select it ,, I get an error that says in effect that there is no boot mngr there ... is my entry incorrect .. I also checked the hard disk partitions using the control center and it shows sdb1/hd1,0 as having the Windows OS on it.TIA Quote
lewmur Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I just installed Windows 7 RC on the first partition of my second hard drive .. I am using GRUB as the bootloader and PCLOS as the default OS ... using "mcedit" I made the following entry to the bootloader menutitle Windows 7root (hd1,0)chainloader +1it appears on the bootloader menu, but when I select it ,, I get an error that says in effect that there is no boot mngr there ... is my entry incorrect .. I also checked the hard disk partitions using the control center and it shows sdb1/hd1,0 as having the Windows OS on it.TIATry adding "makeactive."title Windows 7root (hd1,0)makeactivechainloader +1 Quote
longgone Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 No change ... I actually get two errors .. the first one states "unknown filesystem type , 0x7 and the second one I get tells me that the bootmgr is missing ..Is this a possible indicator that even though the install went pretty smooth there is an error in it ?? Quote
lewmur Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) No change ... I actually get two errors .. the first one states "unknown filesystem type , 0x7 and the second one I get tells me that the bootmgr is missing ..Is this a possible indicator that even though the install went pretty smooth there is an error in it ??I guess if it can't read the filesystem, it isn't going to find the bootmgr.Will your BIOS let you change which HD to boot from? I'd try that first before condemning the install. I know Win7 can be tricky with dual booting. I normally let it install its bootloader and then use EasyBCD to add the Linux distros.If your BIOS does allow you to change the boot hd and it still won't boot, leave it set to boot the second hd and then use you Win7 CD/DVD to repair the MBR. That should make the second drive bootable by creating an MBR on the second drive. If that allows you to boot Win7 from the second drive, then switch back to the first HD in the BIOS and see if the Grub entry works.If that fails, your best option would be to set the first HD to boot in the BIOS and then use the Win7 CD/DVD to repair the MBR so that Win7 boots. Once you get Win7 working, I can tell you how to use EasyBCD to get your Linux distros back. Edited July 31, 2009 by lewmur Quote
longgone Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 No such luck .... under the boot header .. I have the following four options ,, the dvd/cd player/burner .... SATA1 ... a USB device (whichI don't have) and an entry for something from RealTek ... I can change the order around but I can't get to SATA2 to use as a boot device .. unless it would be through one of the last two listed devices ... Quote
Bruno Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Is Windows 7 using the MBR of hdb ?? ( sdb in case of sata )Also if you get "unknown filesystem type" it could be that the hdb1 partition is corrupt. ( Partition "type 0x7" is NTFS so "unknown" can not be the problem ) Bruno Quote
longgone Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 Not real sure what 7 is using .... the default boot OS is PCLOS 2009.1 and it lists the drives as SDA and SDB .. using grub as the bootloader ... and the entry is made as (hd1,0) .... checked the PCLOS control center under disks and partition 1 onf drive 2 shows it has a Windows install on there filesystem is NTFS-3G other than that I am at a loss for a good reason why it won't boot into it ... Quote
BillD Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) I ran into this one time, and what I did was to set the first boot device in BIOS to be the Windows XP drive (after the CD), and then ran a Windows EBD and ran "fdsk /mbr".Then it would boot into Windows. I then reinstalled the root of PCLinuxOS and set up LILO (I was still using LILO then) with the boot part of the PCLinuxOS installation. This is a rather crude, unsophisticated way to do it, but it was the only way I could get XP to boot . . . and it was before I had a clue as to how to edit the boot menu, but the point of the narrative is that it worked.Bill Edited July 31, 2009 by BillD Quote
lewmur Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 No such luck .... under the boot header .. I have the following four options ,, the dvd/cd player/burner .... SATA1 ... a USB device (whichI don't have) and an entry for something from RealTek ... I can change the order around but I can't get to SATA2 to use as a boot device .. unless it would be through one of the last two listed devices ...Then you no choice but to use the Win7 CD/DVD to fix the MBR to boot Win7. After you boot Win7, download EasyBCD and use it to add the Linux distro that has Grub. Then boot you Linux live cd, open a terminal and run the following code.sudo grubroot (hd0,0)setup (hd0,0) That will install grub on the first partition on hd0 instead of the MBR. Now when you boot you should see a Win7 boot menu with Win7 and Linux as the choices. When you choose Linux, it will bring up the grub menu with all of your Linux distros. Quote
longgone Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 Bill ............... I can boot up XP ,, no problem ,, it is on SDA1/HD0,0 ... my problem is I can't get to the new install of Windows 7 RC which is on SDB1/HD1,0 .... but thanks anyway .. Quote
lewmur Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) Bill ............... I can boot up XP ,, no problem ,, it is on SDA1/HD0,0 ... my problem is I can't get to the new install of Windows 7 RC which is on SDB1/HD1,0 .... but thanks anyway ..Ooops! If XP is on hd0,0 where is grub? The code I just posted assumed grub was on the distro at hd0,0. You'll have to change the code so that the "root" and "setup" commands point to the partition with the Linux distro that is controlling grub. Edited July 31, 2009 by lewmur Quote
longgone Posted July 31, 2009 Author Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) Grub ... should be on (hd0,4) that is the partition that PCLOS is on and it is the default boot OS .... I already have the EasyBCD burned to disk too Edited July 31, 2009 by longgone Quote
lewmur Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) Grub ... should be on (hd0,4) that is the partition that PCLOS is on and it is the default boot OS .... I already have the EasyBCD burned to disk tooThen the code should be:sudo grubroot (hd0,4)setup (hd0,4) You shouldn't need EasyBCD burned to disk. Just download and install it in Win7 once you get Win7 to boot. Win7 should find your XP install and include it in its boot menu. Just run EasyBCD to add the PCLosOS distro. Edited July 31, 2009 by lewmur Quote
longgone Posted August 1, 2009 Author Posted August 1, 2009 ...... Wellllll ......Success has been achieved ... albeit not quite like lewmur posted ... ended up doing a re-install of Windows 7 RC ... again it went well ... used the EasyBCD disk and installed same .. went to the "install/remove entries" selection ... in the add section .. selected the Linux tab ,, it has 4 listings with grub being the first one .. selected grub ,,, entered the OS (used Linux) ,, entered the partition that I wanted it to add to the list .. which in this case was partition #2 on SDA ... also at the bottom there is a box .. for a select/deselect of whether or not grub is installed into the boot sector .. I deselected that and saved the changes ... rebooted and selected the Linux entry from the bootloader menu .. it booted into another menu list .. selected linux and it booted on into PCLOS .... all is good Quote
Bruno Posted August 1, 2009 Posted August 1, 2009 ... ended up doing a re-install of Windows 7 RC ... It looked indeed like that was the best thing to do . . . . Glad it's fixed ! Bruno Quote
longgone Posted August 1, 2009 Author Posted August 1, 2009 Also glad it is fixed ... now to figure out why I have no audio on it Quote
lewmur Posted August 1, 2009 Posted August 1, 2009 Also glad it is fixed ... now to figure out why I have no audio on itGlad you got it working. Only difference in selecting grub the way you did is that it doesn't retain the grub menu you had prior to installing Win7. It creates a new one and any customization you had done is lost.As to your audio, you aren't telling me Win7 has hardware support issues are you? Quote
longgone Posted August 1, 2009 Author Posted August 1, 2009 Ummm.... not sure about that .. but what I can state is that on my older computer I use the green output jack for the speakers .. even though it is a 5.1 sound card ,, I believe from Audacity (spell ck) ... but on my new one .. I have to use the black output jack .. so I might have to change output sources and see if that makes any difference Quote
lewmur Posted August 1, 2009 Posted August 1, 2009 Ummm.... not sure about that .. but what I can state is that on my older computer I use the green output jack for the speakers .. even though it is a 5.1 sound card ,, I believe from Audacity (spell ck) ... but on my new one .. I have to use the black output jack .. so I might have to change output sources and see if that makes any differenceThe first thing you should check is that the sound card drivers are working in Device Manager. Quote
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