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#1 OFFLINE   V.T. Eric Layton

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Posted 29 June 2018 - 10:38 AM

THIS THREAD SPLIT OFF FROM POSTER ZILLAH'S ORIGINAL THREAD REGARDING COPYING FILES BETWEEN DRIVES, WHICH IS NOW LOCATED IN ALL THINGS WINDOWS. -ADMIN


I mirror drives with rsync. It's never failed me.

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Posted 29 June 2018 - 08:59 PM

Yes, rsync is the most reliable backup and copy tool. Set it up to run automatically with cron and you won't lose files ever.
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Posted 29 June 2018 - 09:48 PM

Thanks for this feedback
it is encouraging me to use it

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Posted 30 June 2018 - 07:11 AM

What format is drive D ?

When I was copying and backing up to NTFS drives it was common for some files to not make it. Switching to an ext4 formated drive solved that issue.

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Posted 30 June 2018 - 11:21 AM

Linux will NOT understand NTFS. If you want to transfer Linux files to another drive and you want that drive to also be compatible with Windows, you must format it as FAT32. If nothing Windows is going on that drive, then EXT3 or 4 is fine. For pure data storage and no OS on the drive I often format as plain ol' EXT2.

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Posted 30 June 2018 - 01:17 PM

Rsync for daily backups and clonezilla for OS snapshots every 3 months.

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Linux will NOT understand NTFS.

Yes, it will. I access NTFS formatted drives all the time at work with Linux. They are even bitlocker encrypted (I use dislocker to unlock them using key).

All you need to do is install ntfs-3g and your set. Most distros come with it enabled out of the box.
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Posted 30 June 2018 - 06:23 PM

Linux can read or write NTFS no worries. Permissions are a bit less friendly.
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Posted 01 July 2018 - 08:31 PM

"All you need to do is install ntfs-3g and your set. Most distros come with it enabled out of the box."

Umm... yes. I meant without any help Linux does not understand NTFS. I didn't say it couldn't be done. :)

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Posted 01 July 2018 - 08:50 PM

View PostV.T. Eric Layton, on 01 July 2018 - 08:31 PM, said:

"All you need to do is install ntfs-3g and your set. Most distros come with it enabled out of the box."

Umm... yes. I meant without any help Linux does not understand NTFS. I didn't say it couldn't be done. :)

I was kind of wondering as I figured that you knew that for sure.
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Posted 02 July 2018 - 08:58 AM

Well, being a Slacker, ntfs-g3 is NOT enabled out-of-the-box. That's OK, though, because I never use it. My Windows and Linux are totally separate on my systems. I use a common folder that is formatted to FAT32 for carp that I use in common for the two OS's; which isn't much these days because Windows in 99.99% just for gaming. About the only thing that gets sent to the common folder are mods, addons, and patches for the games I play. I d-load from Moddb online using Linux and then save them to the common folder to use later in Windows. My Windows, as you remember, doesn't have any Internet access at all... on porpoise. ;)

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 09:25 AM

What about the fat32 size limit? I probably would of used exFAT as it can be read like fat but it doesn't have the filesize limitation.
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Posted 02 July 2018 - 10:15 AM

Meh... I've never had any issues with that limit.

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root@ericsbane07/home/vtel57:# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes (primary Linux drive)
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00092230

   Device Boot   Start End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1    16384   102416383 51200000   83  Linux
/dev/sda2    102432768   307232767   102400000   83  Linux
/dev/sda3    307249152   962609151   327680000   83  Linux
/dev/sda4    962625536   976773119 7073792   82  Linux swap

Disk /dev/sdc: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes (primary Windows drive)
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x4c91ba79

   Device Boot   Start End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1   *    20480   245780479   122880000 7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdc2    245800960   625141759   189670400 b  W95 FAT32

Disk /dev/sdd: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes (mirrored w/ Clonezilla Windows drive)
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00058071

   Device Boot   Start End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdd1    20480   245780479   122880000 7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdd2    245800960   625141759   189670400 b  W95 FAT32

Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes (mirrored w/ rsync Linux drive)
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0006d45c

   Device Boot   Start End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1    16384   102416383 51200000   83  Linux
/dev/sdb2    102432768   307232767   102400000   83  Linux
/dev/sdb3    307249152   962609151   327680000   83  Linux
/dev/sdb4    962625536   976773119 7073792   82  Linux swap

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 10:52 AM

A FAT32 partition cannot be created that is larger than 32GB. A file cannot be transferred to a FAT32 partition if the file is larger than 4GB.
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Posted 02 July 2018 - 04:24 PM

Hmm... well, my FAT32 partitions are both 194GB and they've been working fine and dandy since I set them up in 2013. The largest files I have stored on them are some ISO's... about 3G each. I can drag/drop files/folders between my /home partition in Slackware (ext4) to the common partition (FAT32) and back again all day long. It's a fsckin' miracle! :)

(parted) print
Model: Unknown (unknown)
Disk /dev/sdc2: 194GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: loop
Disk Flags:

Number  Start  End Size   File system  Flags
1   0.00B  194GB  194GB  fat32

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(parted) print
Model: Unknown (unknown)
Disk /dev/sdd2: 194GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: loop
Disk Flags:

Number  Start  End Size   File system  Flags
1   0.00B  194GB  194GB  fat32

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 04:27 PM

Ah ok, you aren't working with a large amount of files.
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Posted 02 July 2018 - 04:38 PM

Umm... OK. :)

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 05:10 PM

View PostV.T. Eric Layton, on 02 July 2018 - 04:38 PM, said:

Umm... OK. :)


I was just referring to the size of your harddrive. I am just accustomed to moving larger files, ~10-20gb apiece, so I didn't really think about you not requiring xfat or ntfs.
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Posted 02 July 2018 - 10:16 PM

32GB is the FAT32 partition size limit imposed by Microsoft for Windows since Win2000. It's not possible to create larger using Windows built-in tools.
It is possible to create up to 2TB using 3rd party tools such as GParted.
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Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:04 AM

View PostV.T. Eric Layton, on 02 July 2018 - 04:24 PM, said:

Hmm... well, my FAT32 partitions are both 194GB and they've been working fine and dandy since I set them up in 2013. The largest files I have stored on them are some ISO's... about 3G each. I can drag/drop files/folders between my /home partition in Slackware (ext4) to the common partition (FAT32) and back again all day long. It's a fsckin' miracle! :)

(parted) print
Model: Unknown (unknown)
Disk /dev/sdc2: 194GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: loop
Disk Flags:

Number  Start  End Size   File system  Flags
1   0.00B  194GB  194GB  fat32

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(parted) print
Model: Unknown (unknown)
Disk /dev/sdd2: 194GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: loop
Disk Flags:

Number  Start  End Size   File system  Flags
1   0.00B  194GB  194GB  fat32

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