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[Neil P]

sunrat, on 08 July 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

Duck Duck Go is ok and I use it sometimes, but they get results from Bing. Cute logo.

They use Bing as a source,

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DuckDuckGo gets its results from over 50 sources, including DuckDuckBot (our own crawler), crowd-sourced sites (in our own index), Yahoo! (through BOSS), embed.ly, WolframAlpha, EntireWeb, Bing, and Blekko. For any given search, there is usually a vertical search engine out there that does a better job at answering it than a general search engine. Our long-term goal is to get you information from that best source, ideally in instant answer form.

But they don't get all of their results from Bing, like how Yahoo! Search is "Powered by Bing"

V.T. Eric Layton, on 08 July 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

BUT WAIT! ixquick uses google results? ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH! I'm infected again.

I don't see how. ixquick doesn't keep any of your data

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You have a right to privacy. Your search data should never fall into the wrong hands. The only real solution is quickly deleting your data or not storing them to begin with. Since January 2009 we do not record our users' IP addresses anymore. Your personal data are not shared with any third party. We are the first and only search engine to do so. Since then we have added many other features that protect your privacy. Our initiative is receiving an overwhelmingly positive response!

[ross549]

Just lie. Google won't be able to get any useful info out of you that way. LOL

(Some language in the video)

Adam

[V.T. Eric Layton]

That's the new thing nowadays... security by dishonesty.

[sunrat]

V.T. Eric Layton, on 08 July 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

BUT WAIT! ixquick uses google results? ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH! I'm infected again.

There are not many truly independent search engines, just front ends. Ixquick/Startpage uses Google, Yahoo and DuckDuckGo use Bing. I thought maybe Cuil would be different as it was started by Google defectors, but I just went there and at the bottom of the page it says "Powered by Google custom search". The next most popular search engine is Baidu, but if you want to use that in English, guess what?- "Powered by Google Translate".
So it appears search business is now a duopoly. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.

[V.T. Eric Layton]

NO! NO! I can't get away from GOOGLE. I can't run. I can't hide. ARRRRRRRRRRRRGH!

[V.T. Eric Layton]

V.T. Eric Layton, on 08 July 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

Very COOL, Roger! I just set my Firefox, Seamonkey, Midori, and Opera browsers to use it as a default for a while. Testing... Testing... 1,2,3...

BUT WAIT! ixquick uses google results? ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH! I'm infected again.

Back to Duck Duck Go.

[Neil P]

Do you just not like google's results, even? I don't understand. They aren't sharing your information.

Also DuckDuckGo doesn't use Bing exclusively, they use Bing along with other stuff.

[V.T. Eric Layton]

I'm boycotting Google.

[sunrat]

V.T. Eric Layton, on 09 July 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

I'm boycotting Google.

And using a search that includes Microsoft Bing results. Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
I don't ideologically see much difference, as long as they don't track you. I like Ixquick HTTPS as it's, well, HTTPS.

[V.T. Eric Layton]

I don't have anything against Microsoft. They tried to take over the world and failed. Google may succeed, though. I'll stop boycotting Google if they'd give me a job.

[sunrat]

I sometimes use products from both companies. I sometimes eat Mcdonalds too. Doesn't mean I think any of them are actually good for me.

[frapper]

V.T. Eric Layton, on 10 July 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

I don't have anything against Microsoft. They tried to take over the world and failed. Google may succeed, though. I'll stop boycotting Google if they'd give me a job.

You'd sell your soul for a job with the enemy, Eric?  

[V.T. Eric Layton]

sunrat, on 10 July 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

I sometimes use products from both companies. I sometimes eat Mcdonalds too. Doesn't mean I think any of them are actually good for me.

Ummm... BIG MAC!

frapper, on 10 July 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

You'd sell your soul for a job with the enemy, Eric?  

Every man has his price. Currently, mine is pretty darn low.

[crp]

frapper, on 10 July 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

You'd sell your soul for a job with the enemy, Eric?  

Back in '99 I was "between jobs" and a good position was available. The job placement recruiter spent a couple of hours with me to change my external obvious extreme distaste of Microsoft. A bank account balance in a single figure can be a wonderful motivator. I did get the position but my hatred of Microsoft didn't go away till BGates left the company. My dislike subsided when Alchin left.
Oddly , I do admire BGates the person.

[V.T. Eric Layton]

Right now I'd kiss Gates' ascii for a steady paycheck. I've been out of work 47 months; the longest stretch since I was 16 years old.

[crp]

V.T. Eric Layton, on 10 July 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

Right now I'd kiss Gates' ascii for a steady paycheck. I've been out of work 47 months; the longest stretch since I was 16 years old.

Are you on LinkedIn ?

[V.T. Eric Layton]

No. I have no career to be on Linkedin with. I was a component level electronics service tech (RF communications and consumer audio) for 20+ years. I haven't worked in that field since 2000. It doesn't exist in this country anymore. I'm a man without a classification.

[crp]

ahh, you never know who is looking for someone with electronics knowledge. Especially companies with smart help desks. Besides, you might meet some coworkers from long ago who remember you.

[V.T. Eric Layton]

I have networked and spread the word and begged, borrowed, and considered stealing a job. Nothing has worked. I'm not really looking for anything in electronics because my knowledge is too obsolete at this time. If you don't use it, you lose it. Also, I've been the "help desk" route. My last job ('07-'08) I was a customer support tech for Philips America consumer electronic products. This job was my first experience with the "call center" environment.

Let me state this plainly... I WILL LIVE UNDER THE INTERSTATE OVERPASS AND EAT OUT OF MACDONALD'S DUMPSTERS BEFORE I DO A CALL CENTER JOB AGAIN. Yup. I'm pretty vehement about that. That was a miserable work environment. It was stressful, unhealthy, demeaning, and just plain bad. And from what I've been told, the place I worked was one of the nicer call centers. They are truly hɘll holes to work in.

So, anyway...

[crp]

Warning: but this is more important anyway   

V.T. Eric Layton, on 10 July 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

I have networked and spread the word and begged, borrowed, and considered stealing a job.

Hey, you use SeaMonkey!

How about a 'tip jar' on  your website's blog page ?

Edited by crp, 10 July 2012 - 11:26 PM.

[V.T. Eric Layton]

Heh! Way ahead of you, crp. I've had the Donate button on my boards, blogs, and website for a while. It's helped some, too. However, I prefer to not budget my upcoming months based on what I think I might get from that source. I do play to lottery regularly, though.