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[jaquoval]

Started out with Notepad then moved on to Homesite. When I started playing with php I switched to EditPlus (liked the multipage and syntax highlighting setup). When I started trying more complex pages/sites I tried FrontPage - never could get comfortable with it. Just recently started using Dreamweaver MX and am rapidly getting hooked. Code is not always the cleanest but seems way better than FrontPage's. As others have mentioned, I usually have the split view with code window above and design window below. - if things don't work out as expected you can usually find and fix the problem easier that way.* edit - Now that I'm venturing into Linux, I guess I'll have to explore some new options. Suggestions, anyone...?

Edited by jaquoval, 02 December 2003 - 10:19 AM.

[Peachy]

jaquoval, on Dec 2 2003, 09:13 AM, said:

* edit - Now that I'm venturing into Linux, I guess I'll have to explore some new options. Suggestions, anyone...?

Bluefish

[akorvemaker]

jaquoval, on Dec 2 2003, 07:13 AM, said:

Now that I'm venturing into Linux, I guess I'll have to explore some new options. Suggestions, anyone...?

Bluefish is nice. Quanta is good too. I also like using Screem, though lately it's been crashing on me. I have to remember to file some bug reports.Quanta integrates well with KDE, while Bluefish and Screem fit better with GNOME.

[teacher]

I noticed Open Office has a web designer tool as well.

[SonicDragon]

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* edit - Now that I'm venturing into Linux, I guess I'll have to explore some new options. Suggestions, anyone...?

I use Quanta. Check through your menu. Many times there will be one of the mentioned HTML editors already installed

[siebkens]

Mozilla for my homepage.FrontPage at school - wishing for Dream Weaver.Web-based for our soccer page.If I have to do a link or other html to insert into my web-based page, I just go to Mozilla's WYSIWYG, create what I want & copy & paste the html. No hand coding for lazy old me!  

[Neil P]

jaquoval, on Dec 2 2003, 09:15 AM, said:

Started out with Notepad then moved on to Homesite. When I started playing with php I switched to EditPlus (liked the multipage and syntax highlighting setup). When I started trying more complex pages/sites I tried FrontPage - never could get comfortable with it. Just recently started using Dreamweaver MX and am rapidly getting hooked. Code is not always the cleanest but seems way better than FrontPage's. As others have mentioned, I usually have the split view with code window above and design window below. - if things don't work out as expected you can usually find and fix the problem easier that way.* edit - Now that I'm venturing into Linux, I guess I'll have to explore some new options. Suggestions, anyone...?

N|vuMozilla's Composer stripped out and updated. Still in early stages but fairly full-featured.

[Cluttermagnet]

Amazing the number of folks who hand code in this forum. Hmmm, on second thought, maybe not. I do too. Oh, I will get around to learning new stuff and probably try a few of the freebie composers eventually. I render some stuff with tables and I hear that is getting passe now.

[epp_b]

I used hand-coding for about 6 months or so after I started as a website developer.  Then I bought FrontPage and have used it since.I don't use any of the other options.  Dreamweaver is evil (and horking expensive)

[Angelo]

I always use Macromedia Dreamweaver 2004 (MM Studio MX 2004).I use Photoshop Pro 8.0c to make the graphics.I also use Swish (flash) and animation shop and paintshop pro.In Dreamweaver I use the split screen, one is WYSIWYG which means What You See Is What You Get, and the other is the code.Never used any other program because this program works quick and very good!

[epp_b]

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In Dreamweaver I use the split screen, one is WYSIWYG which means What You See Is What You Get, and the other is the code.

FrontPage 2003 has this option as well as many others.

[Peachy]

epp_b, on Apr 30 2004, 09:27 AM, said:

I used hand-coding for about 6 months or so after I started as a website developer.  Then I bought FrontPage and have used it since.I don't use any of the other options.  Dreamweaver is evil (and horking expensive)

How can you say Dreamweaver is evil? I would say FP is evil. Where I teach web design my coordinator constantly reminds me not to use the F-word when talking about web page editors! No web editor is perfect but DWMX 2004 has the best support of CSS IMHO and for me, that's the clincher. I design my pages exclusively using XHTML/CSS, but use Dreamweaver to help with editing text. Once you've set up a CSS file and attached it to your web document you can then edit it with good WYSIWYG accuracy. DW also has fairly good wizards that help you write CFML, PHP, and ASP code that easily attaches to local or remote ColdFusion and MySQL databases.

[SonicDragon]

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How can you say Dreamweaver is evil?  I would say FP is evil. Where I teach web design my coordinator constantly reminds me not to use the F-word when talking about web page editors

I agree peachy   Though i've never used either for more than a trial period, i always here a lot about FrontPage problems, and a lot of praise about Dreamweaver, and i'd have to agree!I may even drop the bucks for the next dreamweaver too, which isn't soooo bad with a student discount. I also agree with XHTML/CSS. That's the only way to go

[teacher]

I have never even touched FP.  Heard so much about it that I never had a desire to try it.  I like DreamWeaver.  I have DreamWeaver and GoLive on my computer at work and DreamWeaver at home.  Half the time I just do notepad or a text editor and then just check it in DreamWeaver or similar program before posting.Julia

[Cluttermagnet]

teacher, on Aug 15 2004, 03:29 PM, said:

I have never even touched FP.  Heard so much about it that I never had a desire to try it.  I like DreamWeaver.

A few years ago, people using Front Page were cranking out some of the most obnoxious web pages imaginable. Using non-standard, proprietary MS software techniques, they were even crashing various non-IE browsers that visited their websites. Any good, reputable web designer would check for compatibility with all the various browsers currently in use, and would likely choose a better tool than Front Page anyway.

[kamicota]

Hi ALLGuess I am STILL the EXPLORER   am trying out with--->>>NVUDreamweaver1st Page 2006BUT would LOVE to be POINTED to a Program that will test my pages in several browsers ----->>>Have downloaded BROWSER SIZER (not installed yet   )  but understand THIS one needs the various browsers installed on ones system - HECK    I have enough palpitations with Firefox   Is there a program that incororates the browsers to be tested inHave not found one yetCheers for yearsColin  

Edited by kamicota, 16 April 2006 - 02:31 PM.

[BillD]

I started in notepad, but when I found out about W3C validation, I realized I needed something that gave me a line count, so I started using HTML-Kit.However, in Linux I see that there is NVU (which was mentioned earlier in the thread).  But, despite the fact that it is supposedly a WYSIWYG editor, I have yet to figure out how to make it "connect" to a CSS sheet while using it as a WYSIWYG generator.  Does anyone know how that is done?  The so called "Help" deal has helped me not at all.  I simply do not understand how one is supposed to invoke the style sheet stuff while using it in WYSIWYG mode . . . ?I might add, that I have tried NVU in Windows too, with the same results, and I always get so bent out of shape I go back to hand coding.Thanks,BillEdit:  All I am talking about here is getting NVU to respond to font rules from CSS; nothing complicated in terms of formatting.  In other words, if Hx or p is defined on the CSS sheet, how is NVU supposed to know that it should use that rather than inserting that same stuff repeatedly in the actual WYSIWYG page?

Edited by BillD, 19 July 2007 - 02:12 PM.

[b2cm]

Try out Microsoft Expression Web.

[Temmu]

anyone know where i can download "cascade dtp" (cascade desktop publishing) it's a css-generator.it's pretty basic.i have 4.24 or something like that.  there were 2 or 3 newer versions - like 4.26 or 4.27

[ChipDoc]

The newest one I can find is 4.0.28.  I found it at the Softronics site.  Perhaps it's out of current production?http://cascade-dtp.en.softonic.com/Here's my personal favorite tool for creating websites.  It gives me absolute control over everything.http://www.editpadpro.com/

[Temmu]

thx for the css editor, i have googled till my fingers were sore.yes, cascade dtp has been done for a couple of years.  the site now offers wedding videos.edit pad pro is a great tool.

[vonbiber]

My main tool is vi (elvis).I code in html, css, a bit of javascript, once in a while php, sql.I use ImageMagick tools to deal with the graphics (thumbnails, cropping, converting, etc.).I test the pages with opera and firefox.