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#1 OFFLINE   kleo2x

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Posted 19 March 2003 - 02:10 AM

First a little history.  On my old mouse with a tail on it, I sometimes had to click 18-20 times before it activated the link. I changed it from a 'right-hand' mouse to a 'lefty' mouse, and boy! it worked every time.  Two days later I bought a MicroSoft wireless optical mouse.  Got a good install, and took right off. [soon found it takes two hands, if your away from your desk].  But soon it started acting as if it wasn'r picking up the signal.  Finally I put the receiver in the same place as to where the old mouse was - so mouse and receiver are within 10 inches of each other - and even now sometimes I have to click 10-15 times before the 'clicks' activates the desired links or preform the desired action.  .............So what's happening to me ?   [P2-350; 256 meg's Ram; 40 gig Maxtor Hd Dr; Win98, 2nd Ed. InterNet Ex. 6] thanx - 2x

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Posted 19 March 2003 - 04:21 AM

Not entirely sure, but you may want to try changing the batteries. I understand these things eat batteriesfairly rapidly, although I don't know what the exact failure mode is (decreasing range, or "just stops working").Personally, I can live with the cord.  If I had to have a wireless mouse, I would probably use 2 sets of rechargableLIon batteries and a charger...

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Posted 19 March 2003 - 05:56 AM

I use a Logitech Mouseman cordless optical mouse that you'd have to pry from my cold dead hand to take it away from me.  :ph34r: It goes through a pair of AA batteries in about 3 weeks. I don't know how long one could go if the batteries were removed when the mouse is not in use.--Edited for speling--

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Posted 19 March 2003 - 10:05 AM

I need to go along with Big Jeff on this one. I have always used MS mice in the past but Logitech now has my vote. Jump ship and try a Logitech, you won't regret it.  :ph34r:

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Posted 19 March 2003 - 10:32 AM

kleo2x,I think others before me gave you excellent advice about changing out the batteries. Especially since I believe optical mice use more power than mechanical ones. But if you've already done that, I would have to suggest possible interference of some sort. I'm not that knowledgeable about the exact wireless method being employed by the Microsoft wireless optical, but if you have other wireless devices or dense objects nearby to either the mouse or its home base, that could be the problem. Something else to think about anyway. If I get a chance, I'll check out the specs for this thing. It may provide some clues. You might also check the Microsoft Knowledgebase for problems related to your model.http://support.micro...om/default.aspx-- Scot
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Posted 20 March 2003 - 11:35 PM

Have you done the usual and customary, ie.,  download the latest updates and newest drivers, double check the the wireless connections on both mouse and receiver? If all else fails, get a Logitech cordless mouse. :rolleyes:

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Posted 20 March 2003 - 11:39 PM

One more thing.  Scott mentioned interference.  If you have a 2.4 GHz cordless phone in close proximity that could well be the culprit.

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Posted 21 March 2003 - 11:40 AM

Ah, the joys of 2.4Ghz  :rolleyes:  -- 2.4Ghz wireless remotes, wireless routers, wireless mice, wireless phones, and microwaves (just to name a few). Are you using a 2.4Ghz wireless router? If so, where is it in proximity of your wireless mouse transceiver?
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Posted 21 March 2003 - 02:11 PM

Since the OP had a similar problem with a corded mouse, I wouldn't be looking for RF interference as the problem. If the batteries are fresh, I'd be looking for a bad connection.

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Posted 21 March 2003 - 04:21 PM

Yeah,Since the old wired mouse had the same problem as the new wireless, is it possible that it is something (hardware) to do with the connection at the computer?  The wireless mouse receiver probably plugs into the same place as the old wired mouse...  serial or ps2.Maybe too, the driver for the mouse connection - if it is a serial mouse, there might be a driver for the serial port that is conflicted...The fact that it worked and then got worse over time is strange.  Have you tried killing everything running and seeing if it is a possible conflict of resources?  Look in system/device manger for any conflicts...d|:^)Dick

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Posted 21 March 2003 - 04:24 PM

Are you plugging into a PS2 or USB? You can by an adapter to make a PS2 plug into a USB. and vice versa. Just an option.

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Posted 23 March 2003 - 02:19 PM

Are you using a Windows driver or the software that came with the mouse? I have a logitec optical wireless and the batteries are a small price to pay for ease of use and reliability.But I never use anything but windows drivers on mouses.   :D

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Posted 24 March 2003 - 07:07 AM

This is my first time on the forum. I was looking for advice on optical mice and I found the answer.I am going to do some research on a Logitech mouse and make a purchase.

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Posted 24 March 2003 - 09:32 AM

cferro514, I think you are gonna love the Logitech optical mouse.There is no comparision between mechanical and the right optical mouse  B) I suggest their Logitech MX500 (corded) mouse (another review here), or MX700 (cordless) mouse.I have heard rave reviews on both.
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Posted 24 March 2003 - 10:21 PM

Logitech optical mouse is nice, but I didn't choose it when I was making buying decision.Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical 1.1 USB/PS2 comaptbile is exactly what I need, and I haven't had much problem with it. Later on I bought a second one of it. I am quite happy with it <_<

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Posted 25 March 2003 - 02:54 AM

Just my 2 ¢:I've tested various (corded) optical mice and my current favorites are:MS IntelliMouse Explorer v.3 (For functionality, I use this all the time) & Logitech's Wheel Mouse Optical (For it’s cost and durability)I'm looking into testing MS' "Blue" corded and wireless mice next, then Logitech's MX 700.
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Posted 25 March 2003 - 07:20 AM

I have tried countless mice, but the one that I like the most has to be the Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel. You know, the one with the big red ball on the side. It took a week to get used to it, but once I did...... I bought 4. You would have to pry it out of my cold dead fingers. And it is great for MOHAA, your mobility is amazingly better than optical or normal mice. To the point that it almost aint even fair. :D

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Posted 04 April 2003 - 12:06 AM

:D Another converted Logitech man here. I use the MX 700 cordless optical mouse and a Logitech cordless keyboard. I used to use the MX 500 cordless mouse but got tired of the battery swapping. The MX 700 has a recharger built right into the transmitter base (if thats what you call it). It is like hanging up a corless phone when you are done with it. The MX 700 also has additional buttons on it for use than the 500. I would recommend the 700 over the 500 if nothing else for the built in recharger.

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Posted 04 April 2003 - 12:46 AM

I love Logitech's hardware; I hate their drivers. I've seen more problems with Logitech drivers over the years. It's a big issue, and they don't seem to care about it. I know, I know, it's always Microsoft's fault somehow. C'mon!Not that Microsoft's drivers are great either. I use the IntelliMouse Optical. It's cheap, accurate, and comfortable for me. I've bought a few cases of them. My mother had one go bad on her, though. (I eventually got her a new one by complaining to Microsoft's support folks.) And there have been all sorts of weird KB articles and advisories about problems.And then there's this: Every now than then long pages start scrolling up and down on me in a weird sort of poltergeist kind of way -- look ma, no hands -- until I click the wheel button. It's a bug, not a feature.So, as I was saying ... I'm one of those people who is about to become a Logitech man.Naw, just kidding. They both have their problems. But I prefer the Micro$oft ones. Their problems are easier to fix.-- Scot
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Posted 04 April 2003 - 06:23 AM

I use the Microsoft Intellimouse (Special Edition - silver and black) myself, and love it.  The forward and back buttons for web browsing come in pretty handy.  I am thinking about getting the Logitech MX700 at some point, but probably not until I upgrade my PC.

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Posted 05 April 2003 - 02:59 AM

I also use the Logitech MX700, you can beat the recharger, however on my latest WinXP install I decided NOT to install the Logitech drivers.  I just let it be detected by Windows and I am using the standard WinXP mouse drivers.  I have not had one problem this way.  Not any app or game problems.If you are having drivers issues give this a try.

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Posted 05 April 2003 - 08:19 AM

Hello ...I happen to have the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (5 button).  While it is not wireless, it is an excellent optical mouse.  I have owned mine since just after they came out and it has performed flawlessly (even through multiple OS'es and driver updates.I have had no issues with it.Eventually I might switch to a wireless mouse, but likely not before this one becomes cold and dead in my hands.  :rolleyes:

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Posted 06 April 2003 - 06:09 PM

I guess I just found a good reason to stick with a wireless mouse that is old fashioned (it still has a ball instead of being optical).  The batteries that runs my mouse have been in place for a year.  My daughter changed the keyboard batteries after 8 months, only to discover her problem was putting the monitor between the keyboard and computer.  I discovered the same thing with the mouse before I rearranged my setup and then upgraded my monitor.  Try different angles to see if you can eliminate what is causing the problems.  I love my wireless keyboard/mouse,  but my family acts as if they are still chained to the computer.   :)   Sometimes you just can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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Posted 08 April 2003 - 01:20 PM

i'm using a corded logitch optical m-bj58, $14.  why anyone would use non-optical, i dunno.  i've very limited exposure to wireless mice / keyboards... but always seem to have had difficulties - logitech drivers on top of xp, esp.    but having to press a reset button and restart the os - that's too much.   :D master k's idea of letting xp find and try it's drivers sounds pretty good.   :)
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