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Posted 10 May 2003 - 02:57 AM

First computer I used was an appleII in school.  Ah the joys of oregon trail, number munchers, word munchers, paper airplane, lemonade stand and that fishing game.  First computer I used outside of school was my buddies parents gateway 2000 (pentium 90).  My first computer was a pentium 166 (non mmx).  I bought it used in the fall of 98.btw computerbob your video problem may be what version of xfree you chose.  Mandrake 9.0 had 3 options, one with experimental 3d.  The tnt 2 is most definetly a 3d card.  Also most printer problems are because most cheap printers (i.e. the most common printers) are windows only.  Most don't even support mac, so linux has an uphill battle.  Same thing with modems.second btw, the reason there are 2 different mixers that have to be up is one is a "linux" mixer, the other is a kde mixer.  Turn just one up and its like turing up the individual volume in windows, but leaving the master volume down.  Just part of the reason linux is so hard to use (same thing in gnome, most window managers only use the "linux" stuff, but the desktop environments (or de) like to feel important so they reproduce most settings).Could be worse, at least there are drivers that ship with distros for your sound card.  Mine requires what I would call "hobby" drivers found on sourceforge.  Mandrake mentions the website on install, but can't just install the 100kb drivers (obviously that would require another cd, I mean 100kb, thats huge).  But at least they mention the site.  Redhat, peanut, phat, iceberg, dragon and debian didn't bother even doing that.

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Posted 10 May 2003 - 03:48 AM

A TI calculator that cost a small fortune and had only 6 functions...

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Posted 10 May 2003 - 08:34 AM

Marsden11, on May 10 2003, 03:48 AM, said:

A TI calculator that cost a small fortune and had only 6 functions...
B)  I remember taking calculus and trig in college and we were not allowed to use that.  Had to use slide rulers because not everyone could afford the calculator.  Boy does that bring back memories.
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Posted 11 May 2003 - 01:08 AM

Oh yes... slide rule holsters... those were the days!

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Posted 11 May 2003 - 11:11 PM

I'm forgetting the brand, but it was 1980 or so and ran WordStar.  Now it's an 800 mhz athlon t-bird built by a repair shop in LA.

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Posted 14 May 2003 - 12:24 AM

I don't go as far back as some, don't remember a world without Microsoft, but it's been a while... '88 i believe.  My first system... whitebox 8086, came with Dos 3.21. Trying to be out front, I had both 5.25 and  720Kb 3.5" floppies and I went all out and got a 10Mb hard drive too. Had a ball with that one. Currently running XP Home on a 1GHx box, 512 Mb Ram, 100 Gb storage. 3 others going back to a P-75 still up and running. I've spent the years between repairing pc's, servers, laptops and printers, and continue to be amazed at the speed at which the technology grows and changes. And to me... the reliability has increased at almost the same rate, although i'm sure a lot of users will  disagree.

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Posted 14 May 2003 - 10:36 AM

Oh, the sorrow of it. My first computer was a TRS-80 model 1.  I bought the machine with extended basic (12K bytes!), and an additional 16K of memory (for $300 above sticker). I also had bought RShack's printer, but then I saw it at the only West Coast Computer Faire held in Silicon Valley (the rest were in SF). The printer was a brick sized abomination that only printed what was on the screen and did it on 3 or 4 inch wide heat sensitive silver paper.I cancelled my order for the printer an replaced it with an order for a floppy disk drive. I added the expansion interface, but I can't remember if I did that for the additional memory (you could get your box up to it's max 48K of RAM) or if the floppy drive required it. The expansion box became a major headache. It was connected to the keyboard/CPU unit by a ribbon cable. The ribbon cable attached to both boxes with an edge connector. If you just jiggled the keyboard a little, the ribbon cable would move enough to cause a reboot. I learned to "save early and often".So, why do I say the "sorrow of it" above?  Because my first love was a SOL-20 from Processor Technology. Unfortunately, the only way I could afford a SOL-20 was to build a kit. And I am lucky if I can pick a soldering iron up from the correct end.~sigh~I moved from TRSDOS to LDOS, which was an excellent 8-bit OS. Also had C compilers and learned Z-80 assembly language. Never could get the hang of Intel's 8080/8086 assembly language.

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Posted 14 May 2003 - 10:11 PM

Keuffel & Esser slide rule (bamboo core/etched faux ivory), no-name 4-function LED calculator costing $99, TI programmable calculator, Apple ][+, Apple GS (first mouse), Gateway 386 (DOS 4/Windows 3.0/8 MB RAM), Gateway 486, Gateway P120 (now a 200), Dell PII-450 (now a Celeron 1.2GHz), and my current homebuilt Athlon XP 2100+ based on Asus A7M266.  What a ride over three decades! I have a feeling that the next three decades may be more fun than the last three.

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Posted 15 May 2003 - 01:31 PM

My first real computer was one you’re not likely to have heard of: The BIT-483 by Business Information Technologies.  It was made with all 7400-series ICs - many hundreds in a nice rack cabinet.  I helped some schools get these to play with when the mfgr went under, and I ended up around 1975 with most of the technical documentation, code, and spare cards.    But the device that got me interested in computers was even a bit earlier: a Dura Mach-10 paper-tape-operated Selectric typewriter, logic performed by scores of little cubic relays.  One was given to a community group I was running so I taught myself to fix Selectrics and extended the logic functions with scores of additional relays and pounds of solder.  The mfgr was going over to cassette storage and the local reps wanted to get the old paper-tape units out of circulation and off maintenance, so they helped me wangle a bunch of them to salvage enough parts to be usable.  I remember once coming into a trailer-truckload of paper tape and using all the rolls with the wrong widths as party streamers.    I think I still have my old Sol and Xitan computers in the attic, along with a spare tube of 16Kbit RAM chips (that seemed incredibly huge) and dozens of S100 cards.  I currently use an old P3-800 with a 10Gb drive, and less often a cute Sony LX920 (with stylus-sensitive screen), but I have a P4-2.53/200Gb/1000Mb system still in a box since Christmas waiting till I get time to set it up.  My LAN also has a P4-2.53 system my kid uses, an aging ASUS P2B P2-450 Mhz system I’m planning to make into a backup storage device, and a little SFF P3-500 system I am just starting to use to control a CyberGenie phone system and maybe other dedicated USB devices.  I am an occasional experimenter, not an expert of any kind, and mostly familiar with Unix though thus far the home systems are all Windows (about which I know barely enough to find forums such as this).

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Posted 15 May 2003 - 02:53 PM

Mine was waaaaaayyyy back..... an RCA ELF II!!  This one came out as one of the first home computers that didn't require you to flip toggle switches to enter data and programs.  It held a whopping 256 BYTES of memory, a hexidecimal keyboard, an LED (red), and two 7-segment readouts.  I later added a 4Mg memory board, and got a kit to build a tv output so I could run 'TINY BASIC'.  All of this I had to assemble myself, soldering it mind you!  I now have 4 computers networked, one with LINUX.  I have a 266Mhz, a 500Mhz, an 850Mhz and a 900Mhz, 2 burners, cable DSL, a router, and alot of misc hardware which will either be used, or will decorate my computer room.  25 Years of computers can teach you alot.  Has anyone worked with an older?  Oh yah, I also have an IBM 5110 computer, 5103 printer and a 5114 8" dual disk drive. (the drive unit is 18" wide, 22" deep, and 28" high!)  SNOOPY

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Posted 15 May 2003 - 05:03 PM

My first computer, my parents got for me when I was 13. It was a 486dx33. it had 4megs of ram, 120mb HD, and dos 5. Haha, I had so much fun running Wolfenstein on it!

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Posted 15 May 2003 - 06:26 PM

B) I've still got the original Wolfenstein on 5 1/4 floppy, it runs so much better on a 486 DX4 100 than it did on the 486 SX33.Joy

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Posted 16 May 2003 - 01:23 AM

I didn't think that anyone else ever had a ELF II besides me. I bought mine for Christmas in 1977. I got the one with 256 bytes of memory, hex keypad and display and that was it. Later on I got the I/O card that had a parallel interface and more importantly, the cassette interface. I also added on the 4K memory card. I ran most software in machine language, but did some in the CHIP-8 language and Tiny BASIC. That was a lot of fun, but it took a lot of time soldering everything together. I also used the parallel port to hook up another hex keypad that I made from the first calculator that I ever had (a Wards 4-function, was about $100.00) so we could play games against each other using two controllers. I still have it out in the shed. Maybe I'll set it back up and see if it still works.The first computer I ever got to use was a Harris /7 sytem that was at the local college (Serial number 3 - I think it was the last one made). This was through an Explorer Scout troop in 1975. It had a couple of DecWriters attached to it, if you could get to them. If you couldn't, then it was punch cards. I remember later on, they added a video terminal, but most of the students didn't know how to use it since it didn't have a RETURN key. We figured out how to use it, so most of the time it was all ours to use.The next computer I got was an Apple ][+ in 1980 or 1981. 48K memory, tape storage, no floppy and I used an old B/W TV with an RF modulator for a screen. Later on I finally had enough money for a 5.25" floppy disk drive. 135K unformatted capacity for $625.00. I thought that it was the greatest thing that ever came out, it was so much faster and easier to use than the cassette tapes. Later on I bought a C.Itoh ProWriter dot matrix printer and a parallel card, a second floppy drive, and a 16K memory card to expand it to 64K, A MicroSoft Softcard so I could run CP/M - I had WordStar, MultiPlan, dBase and a ton of other software for it, a Copy II+ card to copy 'copy protected' software, A Super Serial Card, and finally some 3.5" floppy disk drives. A friend of mine actually had a 5MEG hard disk drive for his. This thing was about 14" wide, 12" tall and 24" deep and cost about $2500.00. The whole drive looked like a bunch of 135K floppy drives to the computer. I guess that's an early version of partitioning.I have also owned a Monroe CP/M system (I forget the model number), An Apple Macintosh SE, An Apple //e, a Timex Sinclair 1000, An Apollo DN460 UNIX workstation (dimmed the lights every time it started it up), a NorthStar Advantage, and then came the PC. I've had a 286-16, 486DX2-66-later a 486DX4-100, Cyrix P150+ (That was a mistake), Celeron 300A (OC'd to 450), Athlon 900 and now an Athlon 1700+. Every PC system has been homebuilt with parts from all over the place. I keep ripping old stuff out and replacing it with newer and better.When I go to garage sales, I will usually pick up an old computer if it's cheap. I'd love to find an Apple I for about $25-$100.00 that someone didn't know what it was. Thanks for the thread, it brought back a lot of memories.

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Posted 19 May 2003 - 02:53 PM

IBM PC Jr.Then the IBM PS2 8550 with a 20MB Hard drive and 10MB of RAM (actually 8192KB on a adapter card and the 2 MB that came on the system)Chris

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Posted 19 May 2003 - 05:50 PM

My first computer was an all in one Commodore/CBM (Commodore Business Machine) model with an external  dual floppy drive bay and tape reader.For fun I put together one of the heath kit machines that was on a board with exposed circuitry and a 20 character display.  My first program was hangman that took me about 2 hours to type in for 10 minutes of fun!The consistent thing that I have noticed is the price point for computers has stayed between $1000 - $2000.I bought a 8086 machine for just under $2000 (it was at the high end before the XT's arrived!)  and today a great machine will run about the same price!

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Posted 21 May 2003 - 10:46 PM

This is fun! My first was a Tandy 1000a with a 16 color (cga?) monitor.  Had the trusty 5 1/4" floppy and 20M hard card. I then acquired a TRS-80 "pocket" computer with 4 color printer (actually a mini plotter with four color pens :blink: ).  Currently have a self built Asus 1.6 GhZ intel.

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Posted 22 May 2003 - 11:16 AM

Hi all, Mine was a 486 33MHz with 4MB of RAM and a 210MB Conners (was it something else) hard drive. I played a lot of games on it  ;)  and at the same time learnt a lot about computers that friends start calling you for help when their own computers act up on them. Later on I upgraded toa Pentium 166Mhz with 32MB of RAM and a 2.5GB hard drive. The hard drive crashed and I added an 8.4GB (the largest capacity that piece of junk can handle). I added more peripherals to it, including a Diamond Monster 3D (the first generation!  :P , and mid-last year, a CD-RW drive. Unfortunately, I'm left with no computers access at home when it died early this year  ;)  ?I'm now eyeing one of Dell's Inspiron laptops as my replacement. :D Cheers!

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 06:59 PM

My first was a TI99 4A ,2nd Commodore 64, boy what a step up, Then a real IBM XT that had 640k of ram and a big 10MB hard drive. I now have two 1.2 gig XP machines and one old 200 Pentium with Windows 98 SE that I use for testing software. My main workhorse is a 933 MZ machine with 512 Meg of ram and a 60 GB hard dirve with two CD burners. All of this with a super fast cable connection to the world. Boy how things have changed in the 25 years I have had computers at home.

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 07:02 PM

It was an Apple clone - a Franklin.  That was back in 1984.  I'm running a Dell Dimension now with 2GH - but I think I had more fun with the Franklin.  Ran the program Dollars and Sense on it.  That was a good personal money program.  Al

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 07:03 PM

I got my first PC back in 1994 (I think)  it was a Gateway 233mg Pentium MMX  16 mg RAM  4gig harddrivenow I have a Gateway Pentium 4 1.9ghz  768 RDRAM   2 hard drives a 40 gig and 120 gig What an upgrade huh??

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 07:22 PM

All,WASHad access to a compaq luggable, also a Kaypro.made punchcards at OSU, I was in Grade school, for honors class, never actually saw the machine.Had AppleII at school (high school)TI99/4A at home.ISDesktopHomeBuilt P4-1.9, 1Gig ram, 80GB HD, 10fans, MSI Board, CD/RW, DVD. MX700, IBM Model M keyboard/Win2000 Advanced Server-Mandrake in VMWareLaptopSony VAIO Z505LS - Win2000/Mandrake Dual BootFile Server - Cel500 HP e-VectraPrint Server - Cel500 HP e-VectraSons ComputerPII-500 - old gateway board, built from scrap. great for kids gamesMany half working machines in my workshop, remanants of the time between Then and Now

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 07:33 PM

Bruno, on Apr 5 2003, 07:48 PM, said:

Actualy wanted to start a poll, but then what choises would you give ? So I started a normal thread;What was the first computer you've ever owed ? The box that got you interested ?And what is the latest one you got today ?Mine was a commodore 64 with tape deckGot a self-build K7S5A sis735, AMD 1700+ these days, (and two old P1)Bruno
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Posted 27 May 2003 - 07:45 PM

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 08:06 PM

The box that got me interested was a IBM 1401 with 2K (yes that's K) memory, no random access drive, with 4 tape drives for input/output. High/Low?equal compare was an option otherwise it was compare equal or unequal. It took a whole room, air conditioned, with a raised floor to hold the beast. Only banks and insurance companies had enough money to afford them.

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 08:07 PM

FIRST COMPUTER...ever Used - electronic :  Dec PDP8/Data general - time share & teletypeBuilt- Analog: Home brewed three Potentiometers a meter and a wheatstone bridgebuilt - digital: (Mechanical) Digi Comp used plastic straws , rubber bands and wire flip flops and a                                           Mechanical   binary display - clocked mechanically by handbuilt - digital   (electronic):   MOS Technologies KIM1, 6502 board based computer (4k ram) with a "real" operating system and crt display: IBM PC1 (Built November 1981 delevered following January (I think... May be off by a year... anyway it was part of IBMs "first day ship" for employee sales). 64 kb ram two floppies, no harddrive.)Current PC: ABS Athalon 2000+ Love it!...Okay I'll shutup now! B)   ---Chuck




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