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lewmur

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I just got a new domain and want to forward an old domain to it. Easy right. Just ping the new domain to find it's URL and then change the @ record in the old domain to that URL. But it this case that's not working. ping returns an incorrect URL. In a chat with support for the new domain host, they say doing that is not allowed. So they must have set the DNS to give an incorrect response to a ping request.

 

My question- How, other than pinging, can I get the correct URL

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V.T. Eric Layton

I'm confused. If you know the domain name, you also know the URL. For example: my domain name is vtel57.com that is also my URL --> http://www.vtel57.com.

 

Are you trying to determine the IP address, possibly? Ping is one way to do that:

 

[size=4]vtel57@ericsbane06~:$ ping -c3 vtel57.com[/size]
PING vtel57.com (64.99.80.30) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from url.hover.com (64.99.80.30): icmp_seq=1 ttl=244 time=66.7 ms
64 bytes from url.hover.com (64.99.80.30): icmp_seq=2 ttl=244 time=69.6 ms
64 bytes from url.hover.com (64.99.80.30): icmp_seq=3 ttl=244 time=70.7 ms

--- vtel57.com ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 66.719/69.031/70.741/1.709 ms

 

From this, I now know that my domain name IP address is 64.99.80.30.

 

However, if ping is blocked by the domain, you'll need to use traceroute to determine the IP:

 

[size=4]vtel57@ericsbane06~:$ traceroute vtel57.com[/size]
traceroute to vtel57.com (64.99.80.30), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1  Wireless_Broadband_Router.home (192.168.1.1)  1.235 ms  1.223 ms  1.215 ms
2  L100.TAMPFL-VFTTP-121.verizon-gni.net (71.180.214.1)  7.190 ms  7.184 ms  7.178 ms
3  G102-0-0-11.TAMPFL-LCR-21.verizon-gni.net (100.41.129.18)  9.984 ms  9.980 ms  9.975 ms
4  * * *
5  0.ae11.GW1.MIA19.ALTER.NET (140.222.225.77)  16.821 ms 0.ae9.GW1.MIA19.ALTER.NET (140.222.231.81)  16.809 ms 0.ae11.GW1.MIA19.ALTER.NET (140.222.225.77)  19.593 ms
6  teliasonera-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.236.22)  16.791 ms  15.967 ms  15.960 ms
7  ash-bb4-link.telia.net (62.115.141.123)  43.369 ms ash-bb4-link.telia.net (62.115.141.131)  41.961 ms ash-bb4-link.telia.net (62.115.141.80)  42.629 ms
8  nyk-bb2-link.telia.net (62.115.136.200)  130.034 ms nyk-bb2-link.telia.net (213.155.134.145)  42.697 ms nyk-bb2-link.telia.net (80.91.245.99)  42.693 ms
9  toro-b1-link.telia.net (213.155.137.71)  55.222 ms toro-b1-link.telia.net (62.115.141.195)  67.381 ms  57.610 ms
10  * * *
11  csr01-v100.bra.tucows.com (216.40.38.200)  70.196 ms csr02.tor-v100.tucows.com (216.40.38.195)  60.428 ms  62.535 ms
12  url.hover.com (64.99.80.30)  70.161 ms  57.068 ms  67.544 ms

 

The last node listed will be the IP of the domain you traced.

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V.T. Eric Layton

I'm still confused, Lewmur.

 

This is an IP address --> 65.196.188.52

 

This is a domain --> google.com

 

This is a URL --> http://www.google.com

 

Which do you have and which are you trying to determine?

 

 

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I'm still confused, Lewmur.

 

This is an IP address --> 65.196.188.52

 

This is a domain --> google.com

 

This is a URL --> http://www.google.com

 

Which do you have and which are you trying to determine?

 

 

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The domain name is lewmurray.com. Plug that into a browser and it will take you to my site. Ping that domain and then plug the resulting IP into a browser an see what happens.

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V.T. Eric Layton

That's correct behavior for a forwarded (masked) domain, Lew. My own domain (vtel57.com) does the same thing. If you ping it, you get an IP that belongs to Hover.com (my domain registrar). My website is actually being served from my public DropBox directory --> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15753011/vtel57.html .

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V.T. Eric Layton

The IP that I get when I ping lewmurray.com is part of a net range belonging to One.com. Is that your hosting service? Registrar?

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