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#1 OFFLINE   crp

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 11:17 PM

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 11:31 PM

A bit early...
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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:38 AM

A LOT EARLY!

But I just saw an ad for Black Monday for today as well. They seem to be pushing everything!
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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:07 PM

I saw a Christmas commercial back in July. I have a ban on Christmas music in my house until the day after Thanksgiving.

Arg.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 02:06 PM

On another forum I frequent you get taken outside and shot for mentioning the C word before the second week in December. :Smiley-IPB-400:
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Posted 04 November 2013 - 06:25 PM

october  - halloween parties, decorations & halloween
november - fall decorations, overeating
saturday after thanksgiving - first sat in january - christmas! lights & assorted decorations, snoopy & rest of peanuts gang, various versions of "a christmas carol", etc., hot apple cider
1st sat in january - rip down decorations with a vengeance, forcibly eject remaining relatives.
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Posted 04 November 2013 - 06:55 PM

Early? Nah... Walmart here by my house in Tampa had their Christmas decorations and baloney up the 1st of October.

It's never too early for GREED!

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:17 AM

It's a little less simple than just greed. The merchants already know they are selling into a very weak market. They know (not conjecture here) that it's going to be a slow season. This is misery for those folks. Typical remedies include starting the deep discounting early. Only a very few that are positioned just right (Walmart, etc.) can expect a booming season. For most, this is slow starvation. Yep, the crap economy is killing more than just us chickens- it is also sitting on the heads of the retailers. Plenty of misery to go around, folks.

Personally, I could care less what they do. I am totally not in their demographic. They are fighting over an ever shrinking pile of disposable Christmas cash. Early sales with significant discounts will reel in some of those folks.
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 11:27 AM

View PostCluttermagnet, on 06 November 2013 - 08:17 AM, said:

It's a little less simple than just greed. The merchants already know they are selling into a very weak market. They know (not conjecture here) that it's going to be a slow season. This is misery for those folks. Typical remedies include starting the deep discounting early.  [...]
<sigh>, you are probably correct. 2 more store fronts are empty near my work place :(
I wonder it pc buyers will jump in now or wait till Spring when the XP/Office03 deadline looms.
Perhaps stores that sell computers should push that angle now .
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 01:14 PM

Yes, so right you are Clutter!

The number of empty storefronts and revolving door storefronts is staggering. The number of closures of small businesses and even banks closing branches is nuts.

It appears to be belly tuck times all around.
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:09 PM

I haven't bought Christmas gifts for anyone since around 2006. I haven't had any kind of income, nevermind the disposable kind, worth mentioning during the past 7 years. I have no sympathy for retailers like Walmart that buy garbage from China that is made by little girls for some rice and a few pennies. Nor do I have sympathy for retailers like Walmart who pay their employees the U.S. equivalent of the same starvation wage the Chinese girls get. At least the little Chinese girls working in those slave labor compounds... er, I mean factories in China get fed.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 12:21 AM

with all the small, med and large businesses closing, a mostly empty traditional mall, a large boarded-up factories outlet mall, guess what the criminal poop-heads are doing here in corrupt st tammany parish?
you guessed it (lol, not) they are building a huge ( h u g e ) strip mall. what foolish suckers have the greedy criminals connived  into renting those net yet built stores?

i miss christmas as it was when i was a kid.
the department store had a section that only kids were allowed entrance - it had a mommy section and a daddy section - you spent your $5 on mommy and daddy and could surprise them with nice gifts.
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Posted 07 November 2013 - 05:57 AM

View PostV.T. Eric Layton, on 06 November 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

I have no sympathy for retailers like Walmart that buy garbage from China that is made by little girls for some rice and a few pennies.

Which is the primry reason I do not shop at a place like Wal-Mart. It is cheap junk that does not last, and it supports an economic model that I do not approve of (the dollar over everything else).

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:20 AM

Well, I know of one place I will be spending more time in store-wise. And I have you, Adam, and my sister to thank for it.

Ollies! You have been telling me about Ollies for some time. I had never been there. I visit my sister in Mt. Airy, and guess where she takes me? Ollies! Liquidations galore I guess! It is wonderful! I will be finding the Ollies in Hampton as soon as I can!

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:42 AM

I have no philosophical problem shopping at WalMart. When I get there I don't buy much as I do avoid Chinese made products as much as possible. And their prices are not so much cheaper than others due solely to the Chinese angle - their methods for tracking and transporting supplies were (and still are) ahead of other national retailers. As for their wages - they are not forcing anyone to take jobs there, they don't do child labor and they pay more than you think and the lowest wage is for newbies not for those who have prove themselves by sticking around for a year. The story with the picketers is not an anecdote , it actually happened and in more than one location. If you have problems with how they pay their employees and don't shop there then be consistent and don't go to any fastfood stores or ice cream stores.
And what makes you think that the stock pickers for on-line store are making 6 figures?
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Posted 07 November 2013 - 03:19 PM

View Postross549, on 07 November 2013 - 05:57 AM, said:

Which is the primry reason I do not shop at a place like Wal-Mart. It is cheap junk that does not last, and it supports an economic model that I do not approve of (the dollar over everything else).

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Sadly, for folks in my position (poverty, hand-to-mouth existence), we often have no choice in the matter. If I need something (toilet paper, cat food, etc.) and it's cheaper at Walmart than anywhere else, I have to get it at Walmart. I have to put my personal feelings aside. It sucks! And more sadly, MANY Americans are in the same boat as I am.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 08:45 PM

Yep, there are things I buy from Walmart. Although getting to it is not close where I live so often I go elsewhere. Takes an hour and 20 min min to get to the closest Walmart across the ferry in Williamsburg.

Certainly wouldn't buy much in the food vein there (their food prices are no savings except for certain things), but I do hold off and get what I do need from Walmart's in one trip every couple of weeks. I also use their pharmacy during the few times I actually need a pharmacy.
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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:38 PM

I'll pass on food at Walmart, too. Not only is it just as cheap or cheaper at my regular grocery store, the Walmart food is yucky at the store by my house; particularly the produce. :( I go there mostly for paper products and cat food/litter.

You have a ferry? COOL! :)

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 09:41 AM

I just looked up Williamsburg on the map. Looks like a really cool area to live in. B)
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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:34 PM

She meant Williamsburg, Virginia not Williamsburg, Pennsylvania. ;)

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 04:04 PM

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 08:10 PM

That William and his Burg were pretty popular, huh?

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:25 AM

Yep, we have a ferry. I generally enjoy it unless it is too cold or too hot since you can't run your engine (thereby no heat or a/c). Winter is the worst because those 15-20 minutes sitting on the ferry each way gets quite cold in the coldest part of the winter. Not as bad as up north of course, but it's the only viable way to get to Williamsburg without burning a ton of gas to get to the James River Bridge, or the Benjamin Harrison Memorial Bridge. At least the Jamestown-Scotland Ferry system is free. Used to have to pay to cross it.

Colonial Williamsburg is a very cool historic area, as is the Historic Jamestown area. My favorite part at Jamestown are the replicas of the three ships: the Discovery, the Susan Constant and the Godspeed. In the summer, you can actually see them out on the James River occasionally for tours.

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Colonial Wiliiamsburg has some wonderful museums too. As do Jamestown and Yorktown also part of the Historic Triangle.

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And when you have had your fill of history ... there's always Williamsburg Busch Gardens (now apparently owned by Seaworld Parks).

But the Colonial Williamsburg Foundation does very well for itself and keeps the area in beautiful condition for visits. You can get passes for just Colonial Wiliamsburg or go for the greater value of the Historic Triangle passes or get them individually.

Any way you look at it, if you have never been to the Colonial Williamsburg area/Historic Triangle and all it has to offer, especially if you love history, it's well worth the time to see it all.
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Posted 10 November 2013 - 06:08 PM

My mom had ancestors who lived in the original Jamestown colony. :)

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 04:07 PM

View PostV.T. Eric Layton, on 08 November 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:


Yeah thats the one I looked up. Nice looking area. :shifty:
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