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#26 OFFLINE   saturnian

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 08:10 PM

View Postmhbell, on 17 March 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

Sid works great and includes everything you need. I guess in Sid they don't &^^&& up the kernel like debian and stretch.

By this, do you mean siduction (rather than "sid" aka "Unstable")? I think Debian "sid" would have the same issues with non-free software that you're seeing in Stable and Testing; siduction, not necessarily.

Sorry that Debian is such a "pita" for you. Glad you have plenty of other choices.

Someone might correct me, but I'm thinking that the issue here is the "DFSG", and the Debian Social Contract. And Debian wouldn't be Debian without that. I guess my attitude has been that if I can't run Debian on it, I need a different computer. Others don't see it that way, obviously.

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 09:03 PM

There is a set of non-free CD images for Stretch and I selected the net install ISO and installed it in VirtualBox. As one might expect with Debian I had to build my own Guest Additions but once I did that everything went fine. It's running OK - of course using the virtual video.

https://cdimage.debi...2/amd64/iso-cd/

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 09:05 PM

View Postsaturnian, on 17 March 2017 - 08:10 PM, said:

View Postmhbell, on 17 March 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

Sid works great and includes everything you need. I guess in Sid they don't &^^&& up the kernel like debian and stretch.

By this, do you mean siduction (rather than "sid" aka "Unstable")? I think Debian "sid" would have the same issues with non-free software that you're seeing in Stable and Testing; siduction, not necessarily.

Sorry that Debian is such a "pita" for you. Glad you have plenty of other choices.

Someone might correct me, but I'm thinking that the issue here is the "DFSG", and the Debian Social Contract. And Debian wouldn't be Debian without that. I guess my attitude has been that if I can't run Debian on it, I need a different computer. Others don't see it that way, obviously.
Sorry I meant Siduction. I now have it working. I downloaded a AMD Graphics Non-free Deb Package and installed it using deb after getting a different kernel. Finally This is using Stretch.
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 09:10 PM

View Postraymac46, on 17 March 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

There is a set of non-free CD images for Stretch and I selected the net install ISO and installed it in VirtualBox. As one might expect with Debian I had to build my own Guest Additions but once I did that everything went fine. It's running OK - of course using the virtual video.

https://cdimage.debi...2/amd64/iso-cd/

Thanks for your help. I downloaded a different kernel and a AMD Graphics Package in Deb non-free ALL, and installed it I now have it working using stretch and have my desired resolution.
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 09:12 PM

Here's the inxi from VBox:

root@debian-ray-vbox:/home/ray# inxi -Fxz
System:	Host: debian-ray-vbox Kernel: 4.9.0-2-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 6.3.0)
		   Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.30)
		   Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:   Device: oracle System: innotek product: VirtualBox v: 1.2
		   Mobo: Oracle model: VirtualBox v: 1.2
		   BIOS: innotek v: VirtualBox date: 12/01/2006
CPU:	   Dual core Intel Core i5-2320 (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
		   flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3) bmips: 11972
		   clock speeds: max: 2993 MHz 1: 2993 MHz 2: 2993 MHz
Graphics:  Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
		   bus-ID: 00:02.0
		   Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
		   tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:	 Card Intel 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller
		   driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: d100 d200 bus-ID: 00:05.0
		   Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.0-2-amd64
Network:   Card: Intel 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller
		   driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: d010 bus-ID: 00:03.0
		   IF: enp0s3 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:	HDD Total Size: 17.2GB (33.8% used)
		   ID-1: /dev/sda model: VBOX_HARDDISK size: 17.2GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 14G used: 3.6G (27%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
		   ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:	  Processes: 139 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 287.3/2004.5MB
		   Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 6.3.0
		   Client: Shell (bash 4.4.111) inxi: 2.3.5
root@debian-ray-vbox:/home/ray#

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 10:30 PM

Here is my Desktop in Stretch. It is fast.
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 10:31 PM

Sorry, just catching up. You probably just needed to install firmware-linux-nonfree to get your graphics to work properly. They have also split firmware-amd-graphics out from that but it's only in backports, testing, or unstable.
If your system and/or graphics were less than a couple of years old, I would have also suggested installing a newer kernel from jessie-backports repository, but a 4 year old system should would fine with stock Jessie.
I'm happy to see you got it working with Stretch now anyway. Stretch will be released as stable very soon so you are unlikely to have issues with it.
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 10:53 PM

@Mel - Just out of interest, what does inxi -F show now? You can install inxi from the repo if you don't have it.
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 11:02 PM

View Postsunrat, on 17 March 2017 - 10:53 PM, said:

@Mel - Just out of interest, what does inxi -F show now? You can install inxi from the repo if you don't have it.
Here it is

inxi -F
System:    Host: debian Kernel: 4.9.0-1-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.7  Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: A88XM-A/USB 3.1 v: Rev X.0x
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: 0309 date: 03/04/2016
CPU:       Dual core AMD A8-7600 Radeon R7 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G (-HT-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3100 MHz 1: 3100 MHz 2: 1400 MHz 3: 3100 MHz
           4: 1400 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1280x720@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.9, 128 bits)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.5
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Kaveri HDMI/DP Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.0-1-amd64
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169
           IF: enp4s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 70:4d:7b:6a:d4:c4
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 5501.1GB (4.5% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB
           ID-3: USB /dev/sdc model: Backup+_Hub_BK size: 5001.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 16G used: 4.6G (31%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb11
           ID-2: /home size: 60G used: 758M (2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb14
           ID-3: /var size: 5.5G used: 407M (8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb12
           ID-4: /tmp size: 992M used: 2.6M (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb13
           ID-5: swap-1 size: 1.07GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb9
           ID-6: swap-2 size: 1.07GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb6
           ID-7: swap-3 size: 1.07GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb3
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 5.4C mobo: N/A gpu: 11.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0
Info:      Processes: 191 Uptime: 2:00 Memory: 1050.6/15045.4MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5
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Posted 18 March 2017 - 08:12 AM

View Postmhbell, on 17 March 2017 - 09:05 PM, said:

I now have it working.

Yay!!!




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